Marquez: Next target of hate/scorn?

SuperShinya56 said:

Jumkie.... your hootin' and hollarin' of Hayden being damned by everyone up to and including his mother is getting very annoying. This isn't even a Hayden thread, so keep your Kentucky Squid out of it. Every thread I swear has a mention of this bottom tier racer in it, and for what? Jumkie, you would probably make a helluva damn good progranda radio announcer if you were a citizen of Germany during WW2 with half the shiit you spew.



Face it. He's nothing more then a fluke champion, a marketable sub-par American motorcycle racer who has had the best equipment at his disposable through-out his career, but has under-perform considerably given his package. Honda knows it, Ducati knows it, heck everyone who's ever watched MotoGP knows it. Why did you even think right when Dani came in, Honda changed their direction building a bike towards Pedrosa? Little Dani came in his first year and as far as I'm concerned SPANKED Hayden in every which way...... deffinately was the better rider, even when Hayden won his gifted championship with a mere 2 victories. Haydens a joke of a rider, always has been. That smile can fool other's, deffinately not me.

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Nuts said:

Regardless of individual personalities, all these guys at the top are insanely fast and have massive balls.

I have said before, I give Pedro massive dibs. The guys is smaller than most 13 year old girls, and rides a 250 hp moster to within an inch of its life every time he gets on, sometimes in the wet, and is under massive pressure to perform - to the point that he isn't scared to risk being unloaded at warp speed (by comparrison - I'm .... scared of faling of stationary at the traffic lights).

Pedro is a shy kid, who's probably been picked on most of his childhood for being small. He gets into bike racing, and suddenly he's a superstar and has people like Puig and Repsol looking after him, but also telling him what to do.

Pedro probably didn't know how to act with the media (a bit like Stoner, and others), and in the early days (about the same time as .... blew up with NH) came off looking like a .....

I actually think, if you got to know Pedro, he would be very introverted, but not a bad human being. (Puig not so much)



Bottom line, one on one, Pedro is probably a faster rider than Nicky, and would probably be faster than Nicky on most bikes, but in saying that, Nicky got royally screwed by Honda whilst being world champ, and whilst I believe that sits largely in the hands of Puig and Repsol, it was Pedro that was seen as the one screwing Nicky. Pedro was the new golden child (for Spain), and therefore there was huge motivation for all of Puig, Ezpeleta, and Repsol (and therefore Honda), to see him rise to the top, regardless of the consequences.

From the outside, seems like Puig has done a lot to help Pedro, but he has also put him through a lot of crap.



It seems like Nicky is one of the real standup people in MotoGP, who is genuinely happy every day that he gets the chance to race bikes. It is a shame that in the business world of sport, that doesn't count for much.

I would really love to see NH have a boomer year in 2012 on the 1000cc Duc, but unfortunately as no. 2 to aother powerbroker, his chances are limited.

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basspete said:

What an intelligent and well thought out post.



Can you please put a picture of a penguin as your avatar? That way we can tell who the really clever guys are.



Thanks



Pete

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Jumkie said:

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320IDave said:

Since when did the "can't use a factory bike in rookie season rule" start? anyone know?

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Bigguy said:

Does Marquez have a history of doing stupid things?

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Bigguy said:

All the 'treated like ....' part is your own man-love of Hayden, poor Nicky, he has been on the most prestigious teams in all of motorcycle racing with one decent season to show for it - he was wronged! Poor .......... Pedrosa's manager worked to get him support as managers will do - and Pedrosa happens to have a powerful manager (who also happens to be an .......). Hayden's manager, er, who is Hayden's manager? Earl?

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Bigguy said:

I did notice that when Hayden didn't get updates it was criminal, when he did it was criminal that they expect him to test during the season.

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Jumkie said:

Ok, can we all get back on topic? Hahahaha.



I just read this by Julian Ryder:



The progress of Mark Marquez in Moto2 has been nothing short of startling, but I can't avoid the feeling that if—oh, pick a name—Marco Simoncelli had banged into Bradl on the third corner, chopped across the front of de Angelis after passing him and thrown the same rider a hook on the straight then race Direction might have something to say about it.



[url]http://superbikeplanet.com/2011/Aug/110816rydernotes.htm[/url]





Your thoughts?

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Bigguy said:

I did notice that when Hayden didn't get updates it was criminal, when he did it was criminal that they expect him to test during the season.

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Mental Anarchist said:

Not sure but looks like he is going to have a future doing it.



Jum, are you and Ryder hinting that there is a bias in MotoGP? How dare you!!!

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levigarrett said:

This thread is exhausting to read.....

I'm not singling anyone out either.....just saying



For the record, Jumkie's my boy!! but, I'm all about the Peders doing well. I kinda like the guy and I think he's got far more heart than he's generally given credit for.

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Jumkie said:

I'm not suggesting it, Julian Ryder is. Something Tom may have missed.

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