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Same. I'm looking forward to it and hoping it will be easier to follow when it's the actual show
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Not sure this quote on 2015 will be in there;
"When you are the strongest, like Messi, you don’t look for contact to warm-up the game because you are the best. On the other hand, when you see yourself as inferior then you do it to score a goal, something like that happened.
"At the time of the championship when the controversy broke out, Lorenzo was faster than him. He tried to heat things up and in the end speed won."
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I don't disagree.
"When you are the strongest, like Messi, you don’t look for contact to warm-up the game because you are the best. On the other hand, when you see yourself as inferior then you do it to score a goal, something like that happened.
"At the time of the championship when the controversy broke out, Lorenzo was faster than him. He tried to heat things up and in the end speed won."
Marquez: ‘I had the worst relationship with Rossi, it was like a divorce’
‘I had the worst relationship with Rossi’ - Marc Marquez has opened up about why things turned sour between the eight-time world champion and former MotoGP rival Valentino Rossi.
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I don't disagree.
I just read some mordant comments from Dani Pedrosa on Rossi. How he wasn’t actually a fast rider, but intentionally set up the bike just so he could outbrake anybody into a corner, then block them from passing. Yeah, I saw that a whole lot.
Interestingly, I believe that Marquez uses that technique as well, although in a more artful manner, because he has way more talent than rossi has and is actually fast.
Interestingly, I believe that Marquez uses that technique as well, although in a more artful manner, because he has way more talent than rossi has and is actually fast.
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I think that was most obviously displayed at 'Guna 08. I think commentators called it 'interrupting their rhythm'.
Cracks in Rossi's armour were showing as early as 04/05 when he made a number of mistakes allowing Sete Gibernau to be a lot closer than he rightly should have been. Jerez stands out the most. Rossi had the race in the bag then ran wide into Dry-Sac.
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You didn't, you just read the click-bait headline.
They are intentionally misrepresenting his words to create non-existent drama.
Dani is just describing how Rossi raced when he didn't have the fastest bike on the grid. Dani wasn't even complaining.
I hate modern journalism that takes advantage of people's lazyness.
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This is it:
“The strategy Rossi used wasn’t being the fastest, which was my mentality, for example,” Pedrosa told DAZN.
“His was: ‘I’ll go and, if I can slow him down, I’ll slow him down.’
“He would block you until you got agitated and made mistakes. He did it with Casey Stoner and very often with me. It took me a long time to change my strategy.
“He was preparing the bike to brake late. He’d fix the forks, start braking with an open throttle, and do it a little later than the others.
“For example, at Montmelo in 2009, it was impossible to overtake him in braking, because he was braking 15 metres after the others.”
Quite neutral, IMO. No real criticism but just a simple description of differing strategies while racing. Pedrosa said his aim while racing was to be fastest, while Rossi raced to win. I guess, if one were to start being analytic in terms of motivation, I'd be inclined to say that Pedrosa was more defending his own legacy and lack of results compared to Rossi. It's therefore not that Rossi was faster, but that he used tactics/strategies to win by upsetting the rhythm of his opponents. But if you ask me, that's what racing is about, isn't it??
“The strategy Rossi used wasn’t being the fastest, which was my mentality, for example,” Pedrosa told DAZN.
“His was: ‘I’ll go and, if I can slow him down, I’ll slow him down.’
“He would block you until you got agitated and made mistakes. He did it with Casey Stoner and very often with me. It took me a long time to change my strategy.
“He was preparing the bike to brake late. He’d fix the forks, start braking with an open throttle, and do it a little later than the others.
“For example, at Montmelo in 2009, it was impossible to overtake him in braking, because he was braking 15 metres after the others.”
Quite neutral, IMO. No real criticism but just a simple description of differing strategies while racing. Pedrosa said his aim while racing was to be fastest, while Rossi raced to win. I guess, if one were to start being analytic in terms of motivation, I'd be inclined to say that Pedrosa was more defending his own legacy and lack of results compared to Rossi. It's therefore not that Rossi was faster, but that he used tactics/strategies to win by upsetting the rhythm of his opponents. But if you ask me, that's what racing is about, isn't it??
If it wasn't we wouldn't bother with the race after qualifying.
He can do whatever he likes on track which is legal, and he was obviously overwhelmingly faster than others in the early part of his career, as charges from the back of the grid demonstrated. Sure like Mick Doohan he was on good/even the best equipment, and also like Mick Doohan this was because he was the best and very likely contributed to his equipment being good.
When he lost me was when it became apparent in 2015 that he was deliberately using his extreme fans, and perhaps his influence with the media, as weapons against his rivals off track, a large part of the famous so-called "mind games" imo. It was only in 2015 that this became clear to me, but one of the best former posters on here in Birdman, who was "of all things a Biaggi fan" as he put it, dated this tactic back to his rivalry with Biaggi, so imo he has used it against most of his significant rivals in the premier class; in previous discussions some have pointed to Capirossi whom I would accept as one exception. Prior to 2015 I blamed the extreme fans rather than Rossi himself, including for Stoner's travails.
I didn't think the Jerez last corner pass on Gibernau or the 2008 corkscrew pass on Stoner were fair and legal, both would have involved opponents on the racing line being torpedoed if they hadn't chosen to avoid collision as Rossi no doubt counted on them doing; at Laguna Seca he even kept his position by leaving the track. which certainly would not be allowed now, despite which Stoner was pilloried for being unhappy. Otherwise sure all credit to Rossi and JB for the set up and tactics they devised overnight for Laguna Seca 2008, and to Rossi for executing so well to win the race which he was obviously not only entitled to do but which it was his job to do. I do strongly suspect however that the Ducati might have been half a second slower than the Yamaha on a clean lap of Laguna Seca rather than a second quicker in anyone's hands but Stoner's rather than Rossi overcoming a large equipment disadvantage.
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