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yamfan said:

Hodgson reckons Rossi will mess Marquez’s championship up if he gets the chance. You’d think they’d let it drop by now...

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Were that to happen... this forum would be lit up half-way through the winter.

Deefer Dogg said:

That Marquez save though!!!!
https://twitter.com/MotoGP/status/924149377693777920

Jesus saves, but Marquez does it better.

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Whatever Honda pay him, they need to add some zeros.

Deefer Dogg said:

Very different conditions in FP2 but Dovi and Marquez were well clear of everyone else. That suits Marc better and I think for once he won't chuck everything at Dovi. As long as he is only 1 spot behind him, then it's title over. No need to risk everything to gain points on his title rival.
As for Lorenzo, he looks to be growing in confidence with the duke. A confident George is a very fast George.

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Its pronounced "whore he" not George

Hard to judge by QP2. Was surprised to see Pedrosa do that well, considering how hard it is for him to get heat into the tires, given that the bike likely carried minimal fuel. Marquez was clearly having issues. Unless having a full tank mitigates the rear wheel spin, I can't see him successfully running anything like those laptimes for the duration of the race.

yamfan said:

Hodgson reckons Rossi will mess Marquez’s championship up if he gets the chance. You’d think they’d let it drop by now...

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Hodgson hopes that's what happens. He's also saying that because Marquez hasn't crashed in a race for a while he due for a crash in sepang. Again it's just another hope. He such a yellow fanboy he prays with all his might that Marquez won't equal his idols accomplishments. Marquez isn't stupid, nor is his team they know how vindictive Rossi is they've probably talked about and planned for something like this. Honda and team Marquez have probably gone to RD with their worries as well.

Italians have a history of helping other Italians and/or cheating their way to championships. I don't think Dovi wants to win this way though.

Seems pretty natural to want your countryman to win, there was no denial of it in 2015 was there?
To be honest a dnf for Marquez and a win for Dovi would set up an exciting end of season race which imo is what the majority of race fans want.

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yamfan said:

Hodgson reckons Rossi will mess Marquez’s championship up if he gets the chance. You’d think they’d let it drop by now...

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Rossi will be looking to get away with leaders to fight for a win

....the one that has or should mess with MM is JLo....after all JLo did say he would help Dovi during the last 2 races of the season....so by holding MM up, or passing him at any chance he can is his job for Ducati and will help Dovi.....

Unless of course JLo owes MM, and just lets him go by unopposed to be up with Dovi and the leaders....

What will JLo do I wonder?

MigsAngel said:

Rossi will be looking to get away with leaders to fight for a win

....the one that has or should mess with MM is JLo....after all JLo did say he would help Dovi during the last 2 races of the season....so by holding MM up, or passing him at any chance he can is his job for Ducati and will help Dovi.....

Unless of course JLo owes MM, and just lets him go by unopposed to be up with Dovi and the leaders....
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What will JLo do I wonder?

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Jorge has too much integrity. He will race his own race.

The JLo speculations are interesting. What do you expect him to do? Deliberately block MM? Of course this is what Rossi (Uccio) claimed, even though the Spaniards were on different teams. Why must some revisit this terrible moment in racing history? The Religious Rossi Regiment just can't believe that Rossi screwed himself out of the championship race? It wasn't the first time that he hurt himself, you know?

I guess Ducati expects JLo to deliberately block MM. The blatant hypocrisy in this little tid-bit is comical. "No orders. But Jorge better do the right thing for Ducati, or else." ROFL
Lorenzo and Ducai expectations

I really hope there is no questionable activity during this race. It would just taint what ever happens. And how come no one thinks Pedrosa will do anything to help Marquez? They are from the same team and same country. If you really believe that crap, which after watching the Spaniards and Italians beat up on their fellow country men, I have doubts that it means that much. Some should go back and watch the famous Americans beat the hell out of each other and then talk about National Pride. LOL.

Somehow, when it comes to Marquez, him starting a couple of rows back just doesn't seem like that big a deal.

I think he is getting into Doohan territory, starting the race in a disciplined manner and try to stay out of trouble while the pretenders race for the holeshot and a few laps of glory on a full tank.....

Keshav said:

Jorge has too much integrity. He will race his own race.

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Too much integrity to let MM go by or to help Dovi?
JLo in my view should do all he can to make MM work for the title....including making himself as wide as possible at every turn.

Iamapony said:

Lorenzo and Ducai expectations

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The article is 9 days old....9 days ago Dovi was 11 points behind MM....now Dovi needs the help and all the points and wins he can get....

And didn't Ducati give a team order to Redding to let Dovi by in the last race?

And Pedrosa is doing his job....he is pole....his next task is make sure that is MM can't win then he does....

Scenarios for how MM can become world champion at Sepang:

• If Dovizioso wins the race, then Marquez needs to finish second to become world champion.
  If Dovizioso finishes second, then Marquez needs to finish fourth or better to become world champion.
  If Dovizioso finishes third, then Marquez needs to finish eighth or better to become world champion.
  If Dovizioso finishes fourth, then Marquez needs to finish 11th or better to become world champion.
  If Dovizioso finishes fifth to seventh, then Marquez needs to finish no more than eight places further back to become world champion.
  If Dovizioso finishes lower than seventh, then Marquez will be the 2017 world champion.

MotoGP: What Marquez needs to do to win the title | MCN

danski said:

To be honest a dnf for Marquez and a win for Dovi would set up an exciting end of season race which imo is what the majority of race fans want.

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Fk that. An MM win this weekend and wrap up the championship would be more exciting [emoji41]

yamfan said:

Hodgson reckons Rossi will mess Marquez’s championship up if he gets the chance. You’d think they’d let it drop by now...

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But, but, Uccio's rule 2015.3 subsection 1 'when a rider is unable to win the title they are not to involve themselves in competition with or against any rider who still remains in the championship'

Subsection internet101 also states 'any rider not in contention should move over and allow a 2 metre minimum gap between themselves and the rider still in contention as they pass'

p4p1 said:

Hodgson hopes that's what happens. He's also saying that because Marquez hasn't crashed in a race for a while he due for a crash in sepang. Again it's just another hope. He such a yellow fanboy he prays with all his might that Marquez won't equal his idols accomplishments. Marquez isn't stupid, nor is his team they know how vindictive Rossi is they've probably talked about and planned for something like this. Honda and team Marquez have probably gone to RD with their worries as well.

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Jack was correct about Hodgson, but then, many have known it for a while

MigsAngel said:

Rossi will be looking to get away with leaders to fight for a win

....the one that has or should mess with MM is JLo....after all JLo did say he would help Dovi during the last 2 races of the season....so by holding MM up, or passing him at any chance he can is his job for Ducati and will help Dovi.....

Unless of course JLo owes MM, and just lets him go by unopposed to be up with Dovi and the leaders....

What will JLo do I wonder?

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The winged Ducati will create so much turbulence when JLo blasts past MM it will literally blow his leathers off.

Honestly Migs this is about all your post deserves in reponse. But before you go let’s just take another look at PI 17. Wow that was vintage Rossi eh mate, .... if only he had of rode like that in 15 I’m sure he woulda coulda shoulda been the 10 times champ. Alas........

danski said:

Seems pretty natural to want your countryman to win, there was no denial of it in 2015 was there?
To be honest a dnf for Marquez and a win for Dovi would set up an exciting end of season race which imo is what the majority of race fans want.

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If you want a sport where what is most popular with fans determines the result I believe WWE wrestling continues.

As for 2015, the recent PI race just illustrated what I for one have always contended ie the tactics employed at PI 2015 are the only tactics which have seen MM finish, let alone win the PI race in the premier class. And as Birdman just said, what Rossi really required in 2015 was to himself ride in that race as he did in last week's race.

yamfan said:

Hodgson reckons Rossi will mess Marquez’s championship up if he gets the chance. You’d think they’d let it drop by now...

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I have a great idea based on this ....

We have real motogp .......

And we have motogp games .......

What about the total interactive experience whereby, in a situation like "Hodgsons Dream" the watcher can use a playstation controller to activate a big boot that comes down and bops rossi one ......?



Naaaa ... I wouldnt make it past the start of warmup

Qual was interesting in that we could clearly see the contrast in styles between Dovi and Marquez. Honestly, Dovi’s style reminds me of Eddie Lawson. No fuss, nothing outrageous and yet that lap he pulled he is riding over the limit, just like Eddie he makes it look easy, but if you were to ask Lorenzo it’s anything but. Dovi has no margin for error. Marquez is obviously a very entertaining rider to watch. Unlike Dovi who masterfully sits just over the limit of the mere mortals, Marquez just smashes his way past it and deals with the consequences in a totally natural intuitive fashion. This is how he was born to ride. To be sure no one else I’ve ever seen rides like this. Most riders loose confidence from near miss and crashes, Marquez actually enjoys it.

I doubt he would enjoy it quite so much if he were on a Ducati. Crashing when he is on the pace is one thing, but imo he would find to his dismay he would be crashing the Duc 0.5 seconds off the pace wondering why? At that point he would realise this is nothing like any Japanese machine, it speaks Italian and it says don’t try telling me what to do or else I’ll spit you off. I’m tend to think Marquez has the talent to figure it out eventually, but it wouldn’t be done in 80 seconds as some people seam to think more like half a season.

As for Dovi, wow he is riding beautifully if I think back there was only one mistake I can remember from him all season and that was at PI. It was almost a flawless, Lawson like championship.

So just to make sure I have it down.

2015, Marquez allegedly helping Lorenzo was bad and he should've been banned. Despite no evidence at all supporting the accusation.

2017, all riders who are Italian or on an italian bike should help Dovi to make sure Marquez doesn't win the championship.

danski said:

Seems pretty natural to want your countryman to win, there was no denial of it in 2015 was there?
To be honest a dnf for Marquez and a win for Dovi would set up an exciting end of season race which imo is what the majority of race fans want.

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There was plenty of denial in 2015. Maybe you just weren't paying attention.

No the fans yellow fans like yourself want a Marquez DNF because you know that it's the only way that Marquez has a chance at losing the championship. Ya know what sets up an exciting race in Valencia? Marquez sealing the championship so he has nothing to lose and we hopefully watch some exciting battles at the front.