Lorenzo - 'I can beat Rossi'

Talk is cheap. Still - you can't win without confidence. Looking forward to races between Dovi, Jorge, Hayden and Kalio - expecting - like everyone that it'll be Rossi,Stoner and the midget up front for most races. I start to get excited about all the newer talent and next season and then think that it'll be the same three up front all through 2009 and the fever subsides. This winter withdrawal thing really sucks.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Nov 10 2008, 04:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Talk is cheap. Still - you can't win without confidence. Looking forward to races between Dovi, Jorge, Hayden and Kalio - expecting - like everyone that it'll be Rossi,Stoner and the midget up front for most races. I start to get excited about all the newer talent and next season and then think that it'll be the same three up front all through 2009 and the fever subsides. This winter withdrawal thing really sucks.

Well then you should be a pesimist then. At least theree would be no letdown and if it is a good season then you will be happily surprised

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>"Why can't I beat Valentino? It is not impossible to think it is possible. Nicky Hayden and Casey Stoner both did it.

Yeah, why not?

I'm sure the reporter asked if he could beat Rossi and he answered in the most sincere and humble fasion as could be. He is saying that Rossi is not immortal and it has been proven. He doesn't see himself as any less of a rider as Hayden and Stoner.

Something about the tires tell me he is going to be a threat this year.

If he didn't think he could beat Rossi he'd already be beaten, like Edwards.

Anyone can beat Rossi with 110% or in hope Rossi has a crap season

People could talk like this all the time heck even I could beat Rossi it just needs to be proven by them on the track.

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Well then you should be a pesimist then. At least theree would be no letdown and if it is a good season then you will be happily surprised



Yeah, why not?

I'm sure the reporter asked if he could beat Rossi and he answered in the most sincere and humble fasion as could be. He is saying that Rossi is not immortal and it has been proven. He doesn't see himself as any less of a rider as Hayden and Stoner.

Something about the tires tell me he is going to be a threat this year.
I agree, tires are going to be a big deal for Jorge. He is a great talent, and he did well in a divided Yamaha garage this year. If they are going to beat the Ducati boys, Rossi and Lorenzo better be unified this year. There are more dominant forces in motorsport right now than Rossi. He is not invincible, not by a mile. He had a nearly perfect season, something Stoner did in 07. It's will not be as easy in 09, I assure you! Lorenzo won't win the title, but he will win a race in 09. bold huh?

The thing holding Lorenzo back was 1. Inexperience - maybe causing him to push too hard, resulting in crashes. 2. Tires - No doubt the Michelins probably contributed to some of his crashes and poor results. I think that both if these factors are now gone and we are going to see a blazing fast Lorenzo. If he can see Rossi's data it may even be better for him. The setup is also a key issue.

Funny, I read an article on how more teams are considering a devided garage. In my opinion, this signifies that the setup and electronics is taking over what the rider can overcome. How long does it take to upload some data? It's a damn shame

What encourages me about Ducati is that they openly say that ALL data from ALL Ducati's will be shared.

I think there is a paradigm shift in racing when teams and manufacturers do not share information between their own. Winning is important but so is racing and I just find that to be a little unhealthy.

Personally I think Jorge can win the championship as can Vale, Casey and Dani. Mind you, given they were the top 4 I’m hardly announcing anything new. Dovi and Nicki are outside chances.

I think the single tyre manufacturer will bring a few dark horses out of the woodwork here as well…

Jorge is on the same tyres, and has never faced Vale on truly equal terms before, Vale is getting older and sooner or later that will have an impact, it happens to everyone.

IMO, Lorenzo is a genuine championship and race threat.

He has proven that he can race with and beat VR (when fit) as he did achieve this early in 2008 even allowing for the change to VR's tyres. But as he says himself he now needs to improve his level on consistency in order to go to the level required as to win the championship he needs to finish races. But, he will win at least one race in 2009.

IMO, the championship has four serious contenders in 2009 (Rossi, Stoner, Lorenzo, Pedrosa) and a 'smokey' in Hayden with the big consideration there being his relationship with the Ducati.





Garry

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gaz @ Nov 11 2008, 01:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>IMO, Lorenzo is a genuine championship and race threat.

He has proven that he can race with and beat VR (when fit) as he did achieve this early in 2008 even allowing for the change to VR's tyres. But as he says himself he now needs to improve his level on consistency in order to go to the level required as to win the championship he needs to finish races. But, he will win at least one race in 2009.

IMO, the championship has four serious contenders in 2009 (Rossi, Stoner, Lorenzo, Pedrosa) and a 'smokey' in Hayden with the big consideration there being his relationship with the Ducati.

Garry


Dovi hasn't proven himself even as an outsider yet?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Nov 11 2008, 02:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Dovi hasn't proven himself even as an outsider yet?


Not for the championship in 2009 as it is his first year on the factory Honda which means a change of environment, personel etc.

He will be there or thereabouts in terms of races but 2010 will see him more as a championship contender (all IMO of course)



Garry

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Nov 11 2008, 03:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Dovi hasn't proven himself even as an outsider yet?

I agree. Dovi has proven himself. If Hayden is considered a "possible" threat. Dovi has Hayden covered. I am a Hayden fan but did you see Dovi hand Hayden his shorts in the last race? And this wasn't the first race.... Some how Hayden continually gets stuffed up on the inside by everyone.

I am hoping that he gels with the Ducati. He is going to need it next year. Everyone who has a decent bike is a threat (if all tyres are equal).

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Duc999 @ Nov 11 2008, 04:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I agree. Dovi has proven himself. If Hayden is considered a "possible" threat. Dovi has Hayden covered. I am a Hayden fan but did you see Dovi hand Hayden his shorts in the last race? And this wasn't the first race.... Some how Hayden continually gets stuffed up on the inside by everyone.

I am hoping that he gels with the Ducati. He is going to need it next year. Everyone who has a decent bike is a threat (if all tyres are equal).

Dovi is the wildcard in the 2009 season. His recent career has been spent on subpar equipment, and he really showed me something at the end of 08. He did hand Nicky his butt consistently the last few rounds and I believe that was a sign he has arrived. They achieved maximum to get a podium out of that package, kudos to Dovi! A new team does present new challenges, and a divided garage with Dani could be an obstacle. I believe Dovi will be on the podium 3-5 times this year, and challenge for a top 5 in the championship, but Rooney is right, it is unachievable right now. I am anxious to see Lorenzo and Dovi battle on even terms for once, as I think these two guys are the future for Motogp! Also, I agree with the point of Ducati and "sharing info" that was great insight.

It's OK for Jorge to think it, I just don't want to hear it all the time. Do it!!!!

Hes just saying what any young talented rider should be saying... i would be more worried if he showed Rossi too much respect.

Go Stuntman!!
Just keep it upright, get in there and kick some arse!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (an4rew @ Nov 12 2008, 03:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hes just saying what any young talented rider should be saying... i would be more worried if he showed Rossi too much respect.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pigeon @ Nov 10 2008, 11:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>MotoGP: Lorenzo - 'I can beat Rossi'

Rossi's team-mate says he's got the measure of the eight-time world champ

JORGE LORENZO has said that he can beat Valentino Rossi next year. The Majorcan star reckons that he has the pace to topple the eight time World Champion, all he has to do is not crash as many times as he did in 2008.

The double World 250cc Champion finished fourth overall in his debut campaign in the premier class and said: "Why can't I beat Valentino? It is not impossible to think it is possible. Nicky Hayden and Casey Stoner both did it.

"I think it can be done now. I will work as hard as possible and keep my ambition to be the MotoGP World Champion. I believe that the fall I had in China changed the championship… my enormous highside stopped my campaign really."

The pole position man in the opening race in Qatar, the first under floodlights, suffered two broken ankles in the massive highside at Shanghai, requiring surgery before he could even get back on his factory Yamaha. Now Lorenzo says he must be more calm for the upcoming season: "I have often fallen this year and that seems to suggest I fall all time, but that is not truth.

"When I was racing in the 125cc class I fell too much in the first year and then I decided to not fall as much in the second year, to calm myself down, and it worked. I will do the same for the next season in MotoGP also."

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lorenzo is fast enough to beat rossi of that i have no doubt, the question is will he get it together before rossi retires. im not so sure. next season will be very enlightening

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Nov 13 2008, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>lorenzo is fast enough to beat rossi of that i have no doubt, the question is will he get it together before rossi retires. im not so sure. next season will be very enlightening
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