List DMG's Screw Ups Here

We have:

Allowing 1200cc bikes with more mods allowed to race 600cc bikes

Suspending and fining Hacking for speaking out.

Allowing "safety car" on track

Forcing rolling starts

Tommy Hayden's roll through penalty on a complete restart.

Allowing Buell to enter their non street legal rr bike to enter superbike after the homologation deadline. Argument of modified r (the same one that races the 600's) model shot down by illegal modifications.

Suspending John Rock Page for holding his line per the rule book.

What am I forgetting?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cankles @ Jul 22 2009, 09:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>We have:

Allowing 1200cc bikes with more mods allowed to race 600cc bikes

Suspending and fining Hacking for speaking out.

Allowing "safety car" on track

Forcing rolling starts

Tommy Hayden's roll through penalty on a complete restart.

Allowing Buell to enter their non street legal rr bike to enter superbike after the homologation deadline. Argument of modified r (the same one that races the 600's) model shot down by illegal modifications.

Suspending John Rock Page for holding his line per the rule book.

What am I forgetting?


Alienating fan base

Alienating OEM's

Alienating riders by saying [ just because your fast doesnt make you smart} in reference to the leader of the race deciding if track conditions are safe

Getting caught on video and audio saying [ YOU ...... UP THE SHOW] I know its semantics,but the word show turns me off when talking about a sporting event.A show is something that is staged, a sporting event should never be called a show

Harrassing a journalist that also happens to own a race team. Maybe their biggest .... up to date was threatening Ulrich with a tear down after his article on the Big Mac Theory, and following up on that tear down after the race

You never pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel and DMG has picked fights with damn near every motorcycle publication in the US.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jul 22 2009, 09:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You never pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel and DMG has picked fights with damn near every motorcycle publication in the US.

Damn straight!

themselves

Add this to DMGs' infinte wisdom. They have deemed the new NJ track safe enough to race at this season. Looking at the pics from superbikeplanet.com, there is no way this is safe. I've done track days @ Loudon, and these pics of NJ make Loudon look safe!

http://superbikeplanet.com/image/2009/us-s.../jersey/1/0.htm

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VTtwinner @ Jul 22 2009, 11:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Add this to DMGs' infinte wisdom. They have deemed the new NJ track safe enough to race at this season. Looking at the pics from superbikeplanet.com, there is no way this is safe. I've done track days @ Loudon, and these pics of NJ make Loudon look safe!

http://superbikeplanet.com/image/2009/us-s.../jersey/1/0.htm
wow that 1 of the turn coming at that stone walled bridge looks like a death waiting to happen!
BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! piss poor for saftey sake.

I was just about to post that. OMG...

These two pics are from www.superbikeplanet.com

Yet another bad weekend for DMG coming up? In addition to New Jersey, I have watched broadcasts of the SCCA runoffs from Heartland Park. At the end of the front strait is a right-left complex with the walls looking pretty close from TV. Also, the riders go under a bridge during the final few bends. I need to find some pictures to back this up, but I sense even more trouble for Roger and friends.

Look how close the walls are in the track renovation pictures!

http://www.hpt.com/index.php?option=com_co...4&Itemid=92

Those are from 2007; hopefully they have made changes since I last saw the track.

You mean like this? Again, the NJ track from the soup:

Here's some on-board footage from 2008.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_t9axliNIg

Doesn't look as bad as in the pictures, although it is hard to see from a leaning perspective. Looks like bikes use the old turn 8 and 9 chicane, although there is still a wall close on the right. The base of the bridge isn't against the track, unlike New Jersey. However, there is very little runoff there. The wall closing back up to the edge of the racing line entering the front strait looks bad too.

Hopefully changes have been made for the AMA; I like the track configuration, reminds me of Jerez.

Let's hope it doesn't rain.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cankles @ Jul 22 2009, 06:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>..

Cank, you beat me to it. Great thread! At the end, we should consolidate the list and keep it as a reference tool.

1. In sighting the ire of perhaps the most respected regular in the AMA paddock: Mr. Kevin Schwantz. (This, a hard feat to accomplish, that is having Mr. Schwantz turn from his mild respectful persona to turn his back in disgust at the ........ explanations by a DMG gorilla).

2. Putting on two-three week delay, the coverage of the racing for the first half of the entire season, whereby losing both dedicated and casual fan base, and its potential support in terms of revenue and prestige.

3. Losing valuable advertisement dollars by the major Jap manufactures on SpeedTV (unfortunately our only option to watch coverage). Forcing us to watch those lame GEICO commercial over and over again (that ..... on that ad is a cross-eyed dufus.)

4. Reducing the "superbike" to a superstock.

5. Canceling the Miller round because they insisted on featuring the DSB, in the process cheating fans who had purchased tickets (me, Frosty, Cali Kid, Boots, Travi, and others) and leaving us out to dry from seeing the AMA guys. And alienating a great venue, perhaps only second to Laguna).

6. (I know its been mentioned, but its worth saying it again.) Jeopardizing life and limb by parking a "safety" car in the fastest blindest turn of Laguna. Lets not forget also doing this at Daytona, the first race of the season, but not heading the warning that it was and remains a bad idea). And to add, they embarrassed Americans in the eyes of the international racing community.

7. Having an arbitrary decision to penalize riders who may or may not have jumped the start at road America, whereby ruining the integrity of the competition.

And these are just during the season: Shall we also include .... that happened during the off-season?

8. The rewriting of the rulebook, over and over again.

9. I don't think you specifically mentioned, but the power to weight ratio and weight restrictions for the Buell before race one, this was not met. (If you remember, it wasn't until later that they added the weight).

10. The ongoing and repeated flagrant disregard for safety, as you may recall, they have stated that all track are safe to ride in the rain. This is .........

11. The elimination of a true "Supersport" class.

1. Mandating that SBK use road bikes that were modified from the eligible equipment list and special allowances list. Outlawing homologation specials. Later, DMG allowed homologation specials because racing modified road bikes upset everyone, including the privateers.

2. Hiring Ludington as tech director

3. Failing to convince any participants to say that the DMG-way is better than the old AMA.

4. Failing to show the fans the merit of their system (close racing) in a timely manner. The 3 week delays were not good whether DMG had control over the delay or not.

5. Putting a car on the track and using inconsistent procedures to dispatch it. At some rounds it went down without a hitch, at some rounds it nearly killed people (Daytona, Laguna).

6. Losing the political battle over DSB before the season ever started. Destroying SS to get 600s onto the grid in DSB. Then eliminating FX levels of tune in order to make DSB cheaper.

7. Attempting to make DSB the premier class even after American SBK survived the off season negotiations.

8. Dynoing the bikes after Buell had already caused controversy at Fontana (the dyno should have been done right after Daytona, imo)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. Shupe @ Jul 22 2009, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yet another bad weekend for DMG coming up? In addition to New Jersey, I have watched broadcasts of the SCCA runoffs from Heartland Park. At the end of the front strait is a right-left complex with the walls looking pretty close from TV. Also, the riders go under a bridge during the final few bends. I need to find some pictures to back this up, but I sense even more trouble for Roger and friends.

Look how close the walls are in the track renovation pictures!

http://www.hpt.com/index.php?option=com_co...4&Itemid=92

Those are from 2007; hopefully they have made changes since I last saw the track.

Heartland Park Topeka track revisions completed.

LINK

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cankles @ Jul 22 2009, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>We have:

Allowing 1200cc bikes with more mods allowed to race 600cc bikes

Suspending and fining Hacking for speaking out.

Allowing "safety car" on track

Forcing rolling starts

Tommy Hayden's roll through penalty on a complete restart.

Allowing Buell to enter their non street legal rr bike to enter superbike after the homologation deadline. Argument of modified r (the same one that races the 600's) model shot down by illegal modifications.

Suspending John Rock Page for holding his line per the rule book.

What am I forgetting?
Perhaps the biggest one:Nascar people thinking they can run a motorcycle racing series! ...... morons.