Laguna Seca Practice and Qualifying Discussion
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Haystack to 4th - 23.3
San Carlos and Tech 3 teams sucking the hind ....
(Oops, Alex just took 4th from nowhere!)
Update - Stoner re-connected the loose plug wire and is now 21.9.
...21.8.... Another hot streak in progress.
Nakano to 3rd at 22.8
Now 22.7
Rossi improves to 22.6
Hayden holding out as the best Michelin in 6th.
Tech 3 are MIA.
Melandri and the sat. Ducs are seem to have hit the wall and are slowly sinking.
Marco now 23.3, bumping Hayden. Ginters improves to 10th.
J-Lo improves to 10th.
Nicky finds a 22.7 - back to 4th.
JT shows a pulse! 23.3 and P8
Rossi still scraping.... 22.4
LOL! Shinya 22.3 and P2!
J-Lo in the 22s and P7
San Carlos and Tech 3 teams sucking the hind ....
(Oops, Alex just took 4th from nowhere!)
Update - Stoner re-connected the loose plug wire and is now 21.9.
...21.8.... Another hot streak in progress.
Nakano to 3rd at 22.8
Now 22.7
Rossi improves to 22.6
Hayden holding out as the best Michelin in 6th.
Tech 3 are MIA.
Melandri and the sat. Ducs are seem to have hit the wall and are slowly sinking.
Marco now 23.3, bumping Hayden. Ginters improves to 10th.
J-Lo improves to 10th.
Nicky finds a 22.7 - back to 4th.
JT shows a pulse! 23.3 and P8
Rossi still scraping.... 22.4
LOL! Shinya 22.3 and P2!
J-Lo in the 22s and P7
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With a few minutes left, Rossi finds a 22.1 to retake 2nd and, just maybe, give Stoner something to think about.
LOL - for 1 lap! 21.4 for Stoner.
Man, that's gotta hurt. Throughout the session, Rossi and Burgess had been chipping away, making steady, methodical progress - just what the situation required. Then, just when he had fought to within spitting distance, Casey dropped the hammer and pulled out nearly 1/2 a second.
Looking at FP2, it seem that warmer race-time conditions seem to offer the Michelin riders (at least Nicky) some limited relief. I don't think anything short of an earthquake will upset the balance between Rossi and stoner.
LOL - for 1 lap! 21.4 for Stoner.
Man, that's gotta hurt. Throughout the session, Rossi and Burgess had been chipping away, making steady, methodical progress - just what the situation required. Then, just when he had fought to within spitting distance, Casey dropped the hammer and pulled out nearly 1/2 a second.
Looking at FP2, it seem that warmer race-time conditions seem to offer the Michelin riders (at least Nicky) some limited relief. I don't think anything short of an earthquake will upset the balance between Rossi and stoner.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DirtyD86 @ Jul 19 2008, 06:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>pedrosa is nowhere to be seen.
According to this he's gone home.
According to this he's gone home.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Jul 19 2008, 07:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Good point .... I can't remember a year of more anticipation waiting to see how the weekend would unfold.
Yeah me neither.
The times are so close who can tell. It's only 1.3 seconds per lap from the leader.
That's not much is it?
I'm on the edge of my couch with this one.
Yeah me neither.
The times are so close who can tell. It's only 1.3 seconds per lap from the leader.
That's not much is it?
I'm on the edge of my couch with this one.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Helix @ Jul 19 2008, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>According to this he's gone home.
Would it have hurt him to stick around and got some positive pr work done or are his only fans in Spain.Or he could have stayed and cheered foe Nicky
Would it have hurt him to stick around and got some positive pr work done or are his only fans in Spain.Or he could have stayed and cheered foe Nicky
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Jul 18 2008, 11:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Why would you rid the series of rider aids when Ben Spies can do a 1:23.1 here on a superbike. I know that this may be extrapolation but everyone past 7th place here cannot beat a GSXR1000 round this circuit.
ECU gets the blame for the general malaise in motogp, in this series unless you can go faster than a superbike then maybe
- the whole series is irrelevant and it should be canned, superbikes are pretty close anyway.
- everybody else should be looking at ways to go faster, not looking at ways to slow the faster one down.
The whole series is falling into the pattern of blaming 800's (Honda's idea) and the ECU Casey has (owned by Yamaha) when maybe all they have to do is brake later and get on the gas earlier. Just maybe...
Superbike is 1000cc, motogp is 800cc.
800cc is 2 seconds a lap faster than your faster SBK rider.
Bring back 990 and get rid of all rider aids, and bring in one tyre rule.
lets have some racing.
ECU gets the blame for the general malaise in motogp, in this series unless you can go faster than a superbike then maybe
- the whole series is irrelevant and it should be canned, superbikes are pretty close anyway.
- everybody else should be looking at ways to go faster, not looking at ways to slow the faster one down.
The whole series is falling into the pattern of blaming 800's (Honda's idea) and the ECU Casey has (owned by Yamaha) when maybe all they have to do is brake later and get on the gas earlier. Just maybe...
Superbike is 1000cc, motogp is 800cc.
800cc is 2 seconds a lap faster than your faster SBK rider.
Bring back 990 and get rid of all rider aids, and bring in one tyre rule.
lets have some racing.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jul 19 2008, 09:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>This was for mstar,not you djm
nope. knew exactly who that was for as soon as you started typing. (and i'll add, not just for mstar, but for all the other fans that are screaming foul as well)
very well said though. there HAS to be a "changing of the guard" as you said. it's just ineveitable. otherwise it WOULD be ....... boreing. it may be boreing / frustrating for rossi fans, but what about the fans whoe weren't / aren't rossi fans? it definitely got pretty lame watching him dominate the series. and the sad thing was, nobody really ever even mounted a charge against him. he made it look good, but everyone knew the script. last two or three laps, rossi would drop the hammer and lose the rest of the field. it's kinda nice to see he isn't able to do that in every race.
i have to say that it's nice to see there are some other fans out there that see the light, and i'm not the only one!
nope. knew exactly who that was for as soon as you started typing. (and i'll add, not just for mstar, but for all the other fans that are screaming foul as well)
very well said though. there HAS to be a "changing of the guard" as you said. it's just ineveitable. otherwise it WOULD be ....... boreing. it may be boreing / frustrating for rossi fans, but what about the fans whoe weren't / aren't rossi fans? it definitely got pretty lame watching him dominate the series. and the sad thing was, nobody really ever even mounted a charge against him. he made it look good, but everyone knew the script. last two or three laps, rossi would drop the hammer and lose the rest of the field. it's kinda nice to see he isn't able to do that in every race.
i have to say that it's nice to see there are some other fans out there that see the light, and i'm not the only one!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GeePee @ Jul 19 2008, 10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Try using stats rather spouting your opinion as fact
2005 250cc Pedrossa 8 wins Stoner 5 wins.
They're the stats.
Casey also had 2 DNF's & a close 2nd to Pedrossa
Hardly wiping the floor.
Rossi had 11 wins in the top class in 2005
Thats wiping the floor
2007 Stoner 10 wins Pedrossa 2 wins
Thats wiping the floor.
nice to see someone throw in facts / logic, instead of emotion. thanks geepee! gotta love the detractors though. i'm starting to wonder if it's a bunch of women posting on this board!
seriously though, as andy roo said, stoner was close to pedroa, but didn't have near the bike as pedroas had. pedrosa has had full factory support, and as most have suggested around here, gotten the red carpet whereever he has gone. even now. hell, its even argued that the serious was changed just for him. (i disagree with this theory). IMHO the serious was changed because honda thought they had the upper hand in R&D. the 5 v rc2IIV ... if you drop a valve what do you have? 800cc. they figure right out of the bat, they had a bad ... engine that would domiate the series for awhile. boy where they wrong!
(sometimes going back to the drawing board and re-engineer from scratch has its benefits. eh ducati?)
funny how though, when it comes to talking about stoner, all of a sudden all of the facts are forgotten, and whatever "consipiracy theory" sounds good at the time, comes to fruition!
2005 250cc Pedrossa 8 wins Stoner 5 wins.
They're the stats.
Casey also had 2 DNF's & a close 2nd to Pedrossa
Hardly wiping the floor.
Rossi had 11 wins in the top class in 2005
Thats wiping the floor
2007 Stoner 10 wins Pedrossa 2 wins
Thats wiping the floor.
nice to see someone throw in facts / logic, instead of emotion. thanks geepee! gotta love the detractors though. i'm starting to wonder if it's a bunch of women posting on this board!
seriously though, as andy roo said, stoner was close to pedroa, but didn't have near the bike as pedroas had. pedrosa has had full factory support, and as most have suggested around here, gotten the red carpet whereever he has gone. even now. hell, its even argued that the serious was changed just for him. (i disagree with this theory). IMHO the serious was changed because honda thought they had the upper hand in R&D. the 5 v rc2IIV ... if you drop a valve what do you have? 800cc. they figure right out of the bat, they had a bad ... engine that would domiate the series for awhile. boy where they wrong!
funny how though, when it comes to talking about stoner, all of a sudden all of the facts are forgotten, and whatever "consipiracy theory" sounds good at the time, comes to fruition!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (djm @ Jul 19 2008, 10:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>nice to see someone throw in facts / logic, instead of emotion. thanks geepee! gotta love the detractors though. i'm starting to wonder if it's a bunch of women posting on this board!
slaps
From what I can tell, the women on this board generally make more sense, quote their sources and know how argue their cases.
The men here though...
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From what I can tell, the women on this board generally make more sense, quote their sources and know how argue their cases.
The men here though...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sally @ Jul 19 2008, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>slaps
From what I can tell, the women on this board generally make more sense, quote their sources and know how argue their cases.
The men here though...
<bows graciously> knew i was going to get hell for that. didn't mean anything by it sally!
From what I can tell, the women on this board generally make more sense, quote their sources and know how argue their cases.
The men here though...
<bows graciously> knew i was going to get hell for that. didn't mean anything by it sally!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sally @ Jul 19 2008, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>That wasn't hell, that was just a minor spanking. Normally men quite like that
nice one sally. i can see you have a good sense of humor. nice to see.
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Qual about to begin.
The fog has finally burned off and the temperature is pushing 70F. Hopefully, the Michellin rubber will work a little better....
Current weather conditions at:
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The fog has finally burned off and the temperature is pushing 70F. Hopefully, the Michellin rubber will work a little better....
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http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation...008&month=7
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i just heard comentator say rossi could have gone to ducati..... should have gone no manufacturer will match the speed of the ducati... bad mistake
the times stoner is setting just isnt normal lol
the duke is just to quick around and out of the corners
the times stoner is setting just isnt normal lol
the duke is just to quick around and out of the corners
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