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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hayden Fan @ Jul 18 2008, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>race is over. Unless Stoner falls, no one is within a second of him.
oh dear, could this be another .... race ? Sorry Parade ?
Were have the battles gone ? For .... sake rid the grid of rider aids !!!
Well done stoner, but starting to lose interest like when doohan was riding !
oh dear, could this be another .... race ? Sorry Parade ?
Were have the battles gone ? For .... sake rid the grid of rider aids !!!
Well done stoner, but starting to lose interest like when doohan was riding !
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dion @ Jul 19 2008, 05:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>oh dear, could this be another .... race ? Sorry Parade ?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dion @ Jul 19 2008, 08:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>oh dear, could this be another .... race ? Sorry Parade ?
Were have the battles gone ? For .... sake rid the grid of rider aids !!!
Well done stoner, but starting to lose interest like when doohan was riding !
Why would you rid the series of rider aids when Ben Spies can do a 1:23.1 here on a superbike. I know that this may be extrapolation but everyone past 7th place here cannot beat a GSXR1000 round this circuit.
ECU gets the blame for the general malaise in motogp, in this series unless you can go faster than a superbike then maybe
- the whole series is irrelevant and it should be canned, superbikes are pretty close anyway.
- everybody else should be looking at ways to go faster, not looking at ways to slow the faster one down.
The whole series is falling into the pattern of blaming 800's (Honda's idea) and the ECU Casey has (owned by Yamaha) when maybe all they have to do is brake later and get on the gas earlier. Just maybe...
Were have the battles gone ? For .... sake rid the grid of rider aids !!!
Well done stoner, but starting to lose interest like when doohan was riding !
Why would you rid the series of rider aids when Ben Spies can do a 1:23.1 here on a superbike. I know that this may be extrapolation but everyone past 7th place here cannot beat a GSXR1000 round this circuit.
ECU gets the blame for the general malaise in motogp, in this series unless you can go faster than a superbike then maybe
- the whole series is irrelevant and it should be canned, superbikes are pretty close anyway.
- everybody else should be looking at ways to go faster, not looking at ways to slow the faster one down.
The whole series is falling into the pattern of blaming 800's (Honda's idea) and the ECU Casey has (owned by Yamaha) when maybe all they have to do is brake later and get on the gas earlier. Just maybe...
Man Stoner is fast at Laguna. Hopefully there is a good battle for the other podium spots throughout the race and not just the first 4 laps.
Surprising to see the rainbow warrior from San Marino doing so well on that customer bike. Interesting to see two Honda's, one on Michelin, one on Bridgestone turning similar lap times.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Jul 19 2008, 08:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>- everybody else should be looking at ways to go faster, not looking at ways to slow the faster one down.
Good to see marco doing better.
Otherwise, even I don't think stoner is this good, although the pattern for the whole year suggests that valentino will undoubtedly be closer come race-time. I guess there still must be some human element in the sport as I assume chris vermeulen's rather than his bike's liking for the track is playing some part in his performance.
I saw a recent dennis noyes piece from a link to speed tv where he says the manufacturers rather than ezy are largely responsible for these rules with purported quotes from ezpeleta to this effect.
Otherwise, even I don't think stoner is this good, although the pattern for the whole year suggests that valentino will undoubtedly be closer come race-time. I guess there still must be some human element in the sport as I assume chris vermeulen's rather than his bike's liking for the track is playing some part in his performance.
I saw a recent dennis noyes piece from a link to speed tv where he says the manufacturers rather than ezy are largely responsible for these rules with purported quotes from ezpeleta to this effect.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy Roo @ Jul 18 2008, 11:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Why would you rid the series of rider aids when Ben Spies can do a 1:23.1 here on a superbike. I know that this may be extrapolation but everyone past 7th place here cannot beat a GSXR1000 round this circuit.
ECU gets the blame for the general malaise in motogp, in this series unless you can go faster than a superbike then maybe
- the whole series is irrelevant and it should be canned, superbikes are pretty close anyway.
- everybody else should be looking at ways to go faster, not looking at ways to slow the faster one down.
The whole series is falling into the pattern of blaming 800's (Honda's idea) and the ECU Casey has (owned by Yamaha) when maybe all they have to do is brake later and get on the gas earlier. Just maybe...
or, they could just slow the superbike class down....and maintain the aura of "prestige".
ECU gets the blame for the general malaise in motogp, in this series unless you can go faster than a superbike then maybe
- the whole series is irrelevant and it should be canned, superbikes are pretty close anyway.
- everybody else should be looking at ways to go faster, not looking at ways to slow the faster one down.
The whole series is falling into the pattern of blaming 800's (Honda's idea) and the ECU Casey has (owned by Yamaha) when maybe all they have to do is brake later and get on the gas earlier. Just maybe...
or, they could just slow the superbike class down....and maintain the aura of "prestige".
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Parc Ferme @ Jul 18 2008, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Casey clicked of 21s
Rossi clicked off 22s
#3-16 were all in the 23s
Sunday:
Casey
Rossi
Dealer's Choice
Rossi was #3...
Rossi clicked off 22s
#3-16 were all in the 23s
Sunday:
Casey
Rossi
Dealer's Choice
Rossi was #3...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mattsteg @ Jul 18 2008, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rossi was #3...
I'm talking about Race Pace. You can't go by final results because some guys whacked a Q in there.
Until the last few mins, Casey was consistently hitting 21, Rossi was all alone at 22, and #3-#16 ran 23s.
I'm talking about Race Pace. You can't go by final results because some guys whacked a Q in there.
Until the last few mins, Casey was consistently hitting 21, Rossi was all alone at 22, and #3-#16 ran 23s.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigAl @ Jul 19 2008, 12:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>or, they could just slow the superbike class down....and maintain the aura of "prestige".
Part of the trouble as I have said previously is that different people are in effective control of the 2 formulae.
Dennis noyes has just written a piece proposing the radical solution of getting FIM to control motogp
. Perhaps it might be a good idea to get them to run wsbk too
.
Part of the trouble as I have said previously is that different people are in effective control of the 2 formulae.
Dennis noyes has just written a piece proposing the radical solution of getting FIM to control motogp
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Parc Ferme @ Jul 18 2008, 06:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm talking about Race Pace. You can't go by final results because some guys whacked a Q in there.
Until the last few mins, Casey was consistently hitting 21, Rossi was all alone at 22, and #3-#16 ran 23s.
Why would an established rider waste a Q in free practice?
Until the last few mins, Casey was consistently hitting 21, Rossi was all alone at 22, and #3-#16 ran 23s.
Why would an established rider waste a Q in free practice?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KurtC @ Jul 18 2008, 06:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yeah Hayden doing 1 last fast lap doesn't mean he will be second on race 
Of course it doesn't. It doesn't mean he randomly wasted a Q either.
Of course it doesn't. It doesn't mean he randomly wasted a Q either.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mattsteg @ Jul 18 2008, 11:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Why would an established rider waste a Q in free practice?
Is this a serious question or are you just pulling my chain?
Is this a serious question or are you just pulling my chain?
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