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I could probably predict it based on who is posting if such were to happen. See todays thread. Benidick Brutus J4rno will surely be part of the mob ready to kick a man when down. Ive never been a Rossi or Stoner fan in its classical sense, but how long will a man have to pay for past sins?
You are wrong as usual. I can't help seeing reality -- last year Rossi at least was trying, one could give him credit; now in the second year it is apparent to me that he has given up. Gosh, he's being beaten by all other Ducatis most of the time, what other rational explanation can one give? He's out of juice, he has lost his motivation. The bike is not that bad. Nicky is the proof.
Mind you, my explanation assumes that Rossi is indeed one of the greatest riders, fully deserving his titles. I am not gloating on his decline saying (like the haters) that he was never any good. I'd be happy to be suprised by him and proven wrong, but I've seen other riders on the sunset boulevard before and this looks exactly like it. So why should I delude myself.
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Sorry, I can't agree with your analogy - the reason a 250 is ridden 'corner speed' is because it can.
You don't need to brake as hard, can carry more speed through the corner, can sit it up onto the fat of the tyre earlier and can get on the gas earlier.
Has nothing to do with engine power and all to do with weight.
A GP250 has more than enough power to smoke the tyre in a corner, to wheelie in a corner if you aren't careful and the only thing that accelerates harder is a MotoGP bike on full chat . You can ride it like a superbike, if you want - the power-to-weight is better... but it ultimately rewards a smooth, unflustered style. Hard initial braking, let off as you turn in, wind on the power through the corner while trying to stop it stepping out, stand it up as soon as you can.
I have some credentials in this area...believe me, 250GP bikes would piss on 1000cc sports bikes. They are very easy to get out of hand...
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how long will a man have to pay for past sins?
So I gather this doesn't include those who have little momentary whinge about Pedrosa? ............
A lot of Rossi supporters only started following GP in 'his' era and are perplexed - they have never had this situation before. They don't know how to behave.
As a supporter of both Wellington and London Irish I have had decades of disappointment in sport to fall back on. When Casey has a bad year, I will be able to function normally.
They want to point to everything possible - the bike, he's sandbagging to get better parts, he wants out of his contract - everything except what is proing to be the most plausible, that he is human and just can't ride the Ducati as well as other riders can.
His media machine has spent the better part of 11 years convincing the gullible that he is the second coming when it comes to motorcycles - totally ignoring that it is very much a team sport, that without the bike under him, he ain't going anywhere - and now that he has had free rein over Ducait's R&D budget for more than a year, he should be back at the sharp end, therefore it HAS to be that the engineering team are doing it wrong and that Hayden's abilities are an aberration.
What do I know? I just think he can't ride the Ducati.
If he had the Honda underneath him it would be a four-way battle for the lead at every race. He isn't washed up, but he is finding those big-headed chickens have come home to roost... he needs to suck it up and carry on. Behaving like a spoilt six-year-old is not the right thing to do, IMO.
So I gather this doesn't include those who have little momentary whinge about Pedrosa? ............
Best team-mate in the paddock, IMO.
You mean the same Ducati that qualified on the front row of the grid? The same ".... Ducati have brought to the worlds highest level of racing."???
Hating the tool for the failings of the tradesman is a little... immature, don't you think? There are three Ducati's ahead of your idol... that doesn't exactly scream out 'FAIL' for Ducati now, does it?
Schwantz fans went thru the same thing after the Rainey crash.
Kevin lost his will to race and eventually retired after a conversation with Rainey.
The Simo crash I believe is having the same effect on Vale.
Oh please! Where do you get this .... from?
'It isn't a proper factory effort'??? Why, because Vale isn't winning with it?
What would, in your opinion, make it a 'proper' factory effort? More money? A bigger race team? A new engine? VR46 in first place?
As to your description of the Aprilia, pure BS - the frame is similar, I grant you, in that it is aluminium and holds a modified RSV engine, as does the SBK frame. But as the SBK frame is a modified street frame, it wouldn't be eligible for CRT.
It is a completely different frame and swingarm, designed and built from the ground up to be the CRT frame. The only thing it has in common with the SBK frame is that it is made by Aprilia.
You know nothing about bike design, that is clear.
I don't think it is... he was fast in pre-season. It's the bike. He can't ride it. Give him a bike he can ride and he would be magically fast again, Simo or no Simo.
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...how long will a man have to pay for past sins?
The beatings will continue until morale improves!
The problem is that his 'sins' are not limited to the dark, fog shrouded mists of time. He Continues to Sin, and is in dire need of repentance!
Rossi is facing one of those 'life's lessons' moments. IMO, he can/will move forward only after he adjusts his ego to better match the real-world capabilities of the Duc. Adopting a Nicky-like attidue of 'shut up and get to work' would halt the catastrophic erosion of respect that is now occurring. It would also - eventually - produce a genuine improvement in lap times. (As opposed to the seemingly desperate thrashing to and fro that characterizes his recent efforts.) Is such a transformation possible? I don't know, but with each pasasing day and each hissy-fit, the probability seems less likely. The continual demands for new-this and new-that, to say nothing of the post-Qatar bus-tossing of the entire team, suggests that 'Grasshopper' has much yet to learn, and that redemption will not arrive any time soon, if ever.
From the horse's mouth:
“The GP12 is certainly the fastest Ducati I've ever ridden, which could come in handy in the race... We'll fight like dogs to hold on” – Nicky Hayden.
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/178383/1/top_ducati_hayden_well_fight_like_dogs.html
"I would have liked to be closer to the front, and to have a better pace, but this is still the best Ducati I have ever ridden. It's the easiest to ride, it gives a lot of feedback, and I'm able to 'feel' what it's doing." Nicky Hayden
http://www.gpone.com/index.php/en/201203266428/Hayden-la-GP12-e-la-Ducati-migliore.html
What are you talking about Jum? We never get to hear Nicky's opinion on the bike. It's interesting that both sides of the Ducati garage have different views on the current bike.
I want to hear those things. What ever is going to happen tonight will happen regardless. Good or bad.
Both those quotes were from prior to Qatar, so no worries that he's putting the mocker on his chances
It's not like he's saying "Should only take about ten minutes to sort out all those problems and be racing at the front" :whistle:
One thing about Hayden, he's no-......... If something is good, he will say so, if it isn't, he won't say anything bad, just that they will work to get a better setup. And the emphasis is on the 'we' - he knows that he only rides the thing - if it isn't right, he can't go fast. Throwing your team under the bus isn't productive.
That's something his team-mate could learn from him: humility.
Jum, I told you many times -- you drink too much
For sure. You're no bopper.
