Jeremy Burgess Interview

Nino said:

No you like PS because it's full of like-minded ......... like keshav and jumkie

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And you seem to like it because everyone here is a ...... compared to your brilliance.

I do find it interesting that in a short time frame, Rossi fans are praying for a podiums.Not just podiums, but podiums without crashes, anything at this point they can claim as some kind of victory over Stoner. Its a round about admission to Stoners greatness while he rode the ill handling monster.For the last 4 years, and up to today, you had to risk crashing to get a podium on the Duc. At this point in his career, will Rossi risk his future to push the current Ducati to podium performance, i doubt it. Every once in a while when things just line up, he will run towards the front, but not on a consistent basis. If they dont drastically change this bike, im talking abandoning Italian philosophy,you can get used to seeing this bike and rider in a similar spot as Qatar.Of course thats just my opinion, JB and Rossi have proved me wrong before, i thought his dominance was over after 06-07, and to an extent, it was. but he still won. This has a different feel, new bike, even faster competition, older rider who has suffered some serious injuries for the first time, and a developmental dead end. Ducati has placed themselves in a box by hiring Rossi, it will be interesting to see how this plays out. We should know something by mid season. I think if they are going to go in a different direction, it will be this year.

Nino said:

No you like PS because it's full of like-minded ......... like keshav and jumkie

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I wouldnt put us in the same category. Kesh is much more respectful, cerebral in debate, has real life experience and historical knowledge of the sport. Me, i usually judge very quickly then resort to school yard antics, spend the rest of my time making fun of ur silly posts. U could say i lower myself to ur level. I am pretty short afterall.

Ducati are going to try to get Rossi a new bike next month.



http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/s...arch/mar3111-ducati-to-revamp-gp11-for-rossi/



http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/article/motogp-ducati-crisis-major-revamp-of-gp11/P1

BKmoto said:

Ducati are going to try to get Rossi a new bike next month.



http://www.motorcycl...gp11-for-rossi/



http://moto-racing.s...vamp-of-gp11/P1

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Noyes' article is very informed and well written as usual, good reading. Thanks for the link

It's not a "new bike" they are talking about though -- for that you'll have to wait for 2012

J4rno, what dont u understand about the words "major revamp & re-design & radical overhaul"???



Yes people, heaven & earth for one man for whom the series demans must win! Everybody else must make due with their own skills & talents as a rider. Some even less than that, who r relegated to test for said man.

A redesign of internal parts is on the agenda as a heavier mass crankshaft or a change to firing order are possible solutions to the problem.



HMM, they are running big bang after Rossi and Hayden both chose it over screamer. Whats next, an L4 version of Cross Plane, or is there such a thing.









Ducati team manager and test rider Vito Guareschi said that Rossi has possibly been spoiled by riding the Yamaha M1 for seven years.



"The Ducati engine character is more aggressive than Yamaha," Guareschi said. "We made a soft pulse engine but Valentino said the engine is still more aggressive. Perhaps we need an engine that is more gentle as part of the package."



Did i sense a touch of descent in this quote.Or is it Italians being Italian.





"Honda has made a leap forward so we really need to be in a position so that if we go into a major redesign we can go two or three steps in one hit."



Should that not read 'when we go into a major redesign'





It sounds like they have accepted what most already knew. The bike is flawed, and Casey is a freak.



It also sounds like they have pretty much lost hope for this season and are praying that the changes will lead to a competitive 2012

You almost have to laugh at Burgess. Which is it, the bike or the shoulder, its both i guess. He covered all bases in that article. With a healthy shoulder, he says Rossi beats Pedrosa. There goes 11.5 seconds of his deficit. Then he says Honda has moved ahead by 4%, which was kind of weird, 4% compared to what, last years Honda, last years Ducati . Is he saying that Honda has overall 4% better package than last year. Does that mean they should be 4% faster. What does that equate to in lap times, certainly not 4%. Burgess is clutching straws at the moment.

Nino said:

No you like PS because it's full of like-minded ......... like keshav and jumkie

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Folks who have been around PS a while have noted that the people with the least brains and integrity

are the ones who most frequently resort to juvenile name calling lieu of any capacity for

intelligent debate. Not, I believe, coincidentally, they are always the ones that are

perpetually angry and incapable of making any friends. Does that ring a bell?

Me... I'd laugh my ... off if putting a heavier crank solved their problem.

I'd have to go find Burgess at Laguna and touch his feet Indian style.

I think its funny how all the Stoner fans use Rossi's inability to ride the Ducati flat out as a way to somehow undermine Rossi's ability. Yes, Stoner is a freak, there is no other rider that can hop onto a bike (any bike on the grid no doubt) and ride it flat out. Stoner possesses a huge amount of skill and balls that need to be carted around in a wheelbarrow. What were Ducati to do though, Stoner wasnt gonna ride for them forever, and i cant see them being content with having a bike that noone else could ride languishing in and around the top 10. So what, Rossi thinks it needs some changes, he and JB transformed Yamaha's fortunes and he could well do the same with the Ducati. Get over it!

I wonder if the 4% thing is the same as the 80sec thing?



These articles are quite an admission. I always assumed that Rossi had supreme throttle control as this is what we were always told. It now appears to be incorrect as the evidence that Rossi needs a silky smooth power plant is overwhelming.



In 2004 he choose the slowest Yamaha engine because of the power delivery. In 2007, we listened to the excuses that it just wasn't quick enough. Well if you want it smooth and doughy then it is going to be slow. Imagine if Ducati did not have the big bang and were still running the screamer!!!!!



I think these articles also answer the Honda question. A few have suggested that Rossi would be up there on the Honda. Well the Honda engine, as Pedrosa complains is too aggressive. To aggressive with lots of power it seems is not what Rossi likes.



Has there been an article, interview or comment from any one from Rossi's camp including Rossi in the last 6 months that does not mention 'the shoulder'? Maybe Rossi's new nick name can be 'The Shoulder' rather than 'The Doctor'.

spooky said:

I think its funny how all the Stoner fans use Rossi's inability to ride the Ducati flat out as a way to somehow undermine Rossi's ability. Yes, Stoner is a freak, there is no other rider that can hop onto a bike (any bike on the grid no doubt) and ride it flat out. Stoner possesses a huge amount of skill and balls that need to be carted around in a wheelbarrow. What were Ducati to do though, Stoner wasnt gonna ride for them forever, and i cant see them being content with having a bike that noone else could ride languishing in and around the top 10. So what, Rossi thinks it needs some changes, he and JB transformed Yamaha's fortunes and he could well do the same with the Ducati. Get over it!

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It all goes back to Rossi fans dismissing Casey's title to a superior bike. Now its starting to come out that he won the title in spite of the bike, and in fact, is the only rider on the planet capable of adapting to it. The fact that Stoner hopped on the Honda and spanked everyone in his first race revealed that he has a set of skills that even Rossi doesnt possess and his fans are feeling a little bit vindicated. Its something you will have to live with for a while because as they say,paybacks are a .............Its all in fun for most, i wouldnt get to agitated over it.

.... last year ducati ended up in fourth place, shouldn't they want to fix the issues the bike has specially since the hondas have improved a bit more now. Seems like on this board most would like ducati to stay where there at while applauding the genius of the other manufactures for coming up with new ways to improve their machine. what the .... is the problem with ducati wanting to be number one again? I hope ducati and susuki make drastic changes that will enable them to fight for the championship with the honda and yamahas. end of rant..

I think it's great that Ducati want to improve the bike, but they obviously thought, for about 4 years now, that it did not NEED improving and they could hire JL, DP, or VR to ride it better than CS.



Upon seeing the 'GOAT' go sssssooooooo slow on it finally opened their eyes to the fact that they already had the best rider on the grid, and took him for granted.



Now we can bask in the knowledge that the Ducati is a turd and CS just had the balls to give 100% at all times and not just going fast when the bike felt good.

Spooks & Esco, do you really think anybody doesn't think its ok that Ducati want to improve their bike? is that really the point you're understanding?

spooky said:

I think its funny how all the Stoner fans use Rossi's inability to ride the Ducati flat out as a way to somehow undermine Rossi's ability. Yes, Stoner is a freak, there is no other rider that can hop onto a bike (any bike on the grid no doubt) and ride it flat out. Stoner possesses a huge amount of skill and balls that need to be carted around in a wheelbarrow. What were Ducati to do though, Stoner wasnt gonna ride for them forever, and i cant see them being content with having a bike that noone else could ride languishing in and around the top 10. So what, Rossi thinks it needs some changes, he and JB transformed Yamaha's fortunes and he could well do the same with the Ducati. Get over it!

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Keshav said:

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Hehe.



Nah Jums, a lot of the Stoner fans are practically slagging off Rossi because he hasnt got on the Ducati and smoked everyone - seems a tad harsh expecting the guy to push to the same level as Stoner did last year, especially given the fact that Stoner binned it umpteen timesand Rossi is carrying an injury! i know alot of it is to get rise out the boppers (of which i am not) though... Who cares if Ducati have to transform the bike to make it more rideable for the non freaks - of which there is only 1 (and he doesnt ride for them!). Povol, a lot of fans probably do feel vindicated, i am not 1 of them though! You can only push hard on a bike you feel comfortable on - its the same with me and DH racing. I rode a different bike in 2009 and my results took a dip...its the way it is for most mere mortals!

BKmoto said:

Ducati are going to try to get Rossi a new bike next month.



http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/s...arch/mar3111-ducati-to-revamp-gp11-for-rossi/



http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/article/motogp-ducati-crisis-major-revamp-of-gp11/P1

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Looking forward to the Estoril test

Keshav said:

Folks who have been around PS a while have noted that the people with the least brains and integrity

are the ones who most frequently resort to juvenile name calling lieu of any capacity for

intelligent debate. Not, I believe, coincidentally, they are always the ones that are

perpetually angry and incapable of making any friends. Does that ring a bell?

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says random guy on the internet