Jeremy Burgess Interview

Some interesting comments from Burgess I thought.



1 - They have not made a great deal of changes to the bike so far



2 - They seem to have a full license to change the bike into something a lot more like a Yamaha.



Excuse the watermark but I'm too cheap to buy the full version of the video editor.











Edit nevermind - Typical Dorna claiming copyright.Video was deleted. Seriously pathetic

It's a Onehd interview, not a Dorna friggin interview.



Try this instead

link

Thanks mate.....

Nice one.



There are 2 conversations going on. The first one is what JB is saying and the second one is what he is trying not to say.



I agree that by mid way in they will be on it. I think this will be as JB says after the major upgrades that are thought through properly rather than the first ones that were rushed in too quickly and look like being discarded unused by Rossi.

In short, Valentino requires a little more lube!

Interview was pure fluff. Questions were vague and uninformed and Burgess hasn't really said anything

new or more specific.

Thanks for the link Frizzle.Great.

It did perhaps not tell us so much news but it's a good confirmation from someone with insight of the info often discussed here.

For instance:The Honda might be very good right now but it's no magic. Casey goes fast,so the others have to keep up to not loose face and the result is lots of fast Honda riders. - Like Suppo said.

Anders GUZZI said:

Thanks for the link Frizzle.Great.

It did perhaps not tell us so much news but it's a good confirmation from someone with insight of the info often discussed here.

For instance:The Honda might be very good right now but it's no magic. Casey goes fast,so the others have to keep up to not loose face and the result is lots of fast Honda riders. - Like Suppo said.

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I've heard a lot of this talk around. What exactly are people trying to say here? The Honda is looking better than it really is because everyone is trying to catch Stoner?



And this didn't apply at Ducati because...?

Anders GUZZI said:

Thanks for the link Frizzle.Great.

It did perhaps not tell us so much news but it's a good confirmation from someone with insight of the info often discussed here.

For instance:The Honda might be very good right now but it's no magic. Casey goes fast,so the others have to keep up to not loose face and the result is lots of fast Honda riders. - Like Suppo said.

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hence the reason why dani's shoulder gayed out on him mid race...having to push so much harder than he was comfortable with to stay at or near the front...

BigAl said:

hence the reason why dani's shoulder gayed out on him mid race...having to push so much harder than he was comfortable with to stay at or near the front...

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His shoulder did what



I swear i think its more mental than physical. Stoner has pushed these guys past their comfort zone, and they just cant keep that kind of pace for a full race without having interruptions in the thought process. That is something you just cant say after a race, is that he broke me mentally.So its the shoulder, the leg, the tires, the computer et It would explain the up and down times of Pedrosa in the Qatar race. Maybe Stoners new nickname should be 'The Borg". Resistance is futile.

povol said:

His shoulder did what

I swear i think its more mental than physical. Stoner has pushed these guys past their comfort zone, and they just cant keep that kind of pace for a full race without having interruptions in the thought process. That is something you just cant say after a race, is that he broke me mentally.So its the shoulder, the leg, the tires, the computer et It would explain the up and down times of Pedrosa in the Qatar race. Maybe Stoners new nickname should be 'The Borg". Resistance is futile.

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AWESOME!

povol said:

His shoulder did what

I swear i think its more mental than physical. Stoner has pushed these guys past their comfort zone, and they just cant keep that kind of pace for a full race without having interruptions in the thought process. That is something you just cant say after a race, is that he broke me mentally.So its the shoulder, the leg, the tires, the computer et It would explain the up and down times of Pedrosa in the Qatar race. Maybe Stoners new nickname should be 'The Borg". Resistance is futile.

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Excellent!!



Lets not forget that Losail is Stoners holy grail, even more so than at Philip ISland, where has Peddles been in previous seasons.



I think any percieved advantage Stoner appearrs to have at the moment will be very short lived over the next few tracks, especially at places where Lorenzo & Pedrosa are very good at -



Pedrosa - Jerez, Le Mans



Lorenzo - Jerez, Estoril, Le Mans





I still think Lorenzo will be leading the championchip race by the time the month long break comes after Estoril.

I think if the Honda is as good, or better than last year, where Pedro almost won Jerez, there's no reason Stoner can't be in the mix.



Be funny if Stoner pulls the pin and disappears at Jerez, JL and DP's heads will explode!

Me thinks ya right Harv.



Cant see him beating the 2 spaniards but anything is possible & if anyone is in the position to do so its Casey.

First of all, Frizzle, thanks for the link (did you post that yourself by just recording the TV screen?



Second, I'm serious jealous you guys have a show that talks about MotoGP.



Third, I hate Speed.



Fourth, interesting interview. I'm glad we have a few discerning peeps here. Sack wack, great take. Looks like the sense of urgency doesn't exist at Ducati?



Generally, soft question for inquiring minds. Here is the thing that JB is unwilling to admit. Stoner is the ONLY alien in the paddock and is making everybody look, well human. Perhaps Rossi has been unjustly judged. Rossi is struggling, no big deal if it would have been anybody else, since plenty of evidence has already shown that humans will struggle unless your name is Casey Stoner. So why so much consternation seeing Rossi struggle? Perhaps the "legend" status is something too heavy of a burden? I just wish JB would say, you know, I was wrong about Casey, he was amazing on the Ducati, we cannot match it, so now we are going to scrap this prototype and move on. We will build us something more conventional, as Stoner has impacted this brand beyond the scope of our understanding. You would think this would give peeps pause to consider just how amazing the results have been since 07.



Also, Qatar isn't the best place to judge Rossi against Stoner. Even Rossi fell into the trap in thinking Qatar is a "Ducati" track. Stoner in his rookie year, on the crash prone LCR Honda, took pole at Qatar, then he won a string of races there, only interrupted by a odd crash last year. As somebody else said, "Its not a Ducati track, its a Stoner track." I think we will see Rossi improve at Jerez. Rossi has won multiple times there.

Jumkie said:

Also, Qatar isn't the best place to judge Rossi against Stoner. Even Rossi fell into the trap in thinking Qatar is a "Ducati" track. Stoner in his rookie year, on the crash prone LCR Honda, took pole at Qatar, then he won a string of races there, only interrupted by a odd crash last year. As somebody else said, "Its not a Ducati track, its a Stoner track." I think we will see Rossi improve at Jerez. Rossi has won multiple times there.

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That would be me.

I always admired Stoner, like you, but this is not really fair Jum.

Stoner himself said he could not ride the Ducati fast when he wasn't 100% fit. I, for one, believed him.



Rossi said his shoulder will not be OK until May or June. If you cannot believe him, at least give him the benefit of doubt -- he's Rossi, after all. If in July he is still struggling like now, then you'll be right that the only alien is in fact Stoner.

But if he'll be making rapid progress, then we'll know that the reason for his difficulties was mainly the shoulder and I will be right in what I always said: that the two only aliens are Rossi and Stoner.

johnnyvvc said:

Lets not forget that Losail is Stoners holy grail, even more so than at Philip ISland, where has Peddles been in previous seasons.



I think any percieved advantage Stoner appearrs to have at the moment will be very short lived over the next few tracks, especially at places where Lorenzo & Pedrosa are very good at -



Pedrosa - Jerez, Le Mans



Lorenzo - Jerez, Estoril, Le Mans





I still think Lorenzo will be leading the championchip race by the time the month long break comes after Estoril.

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Excellent post, I agree with this. I think that's why Lorenzo was so happy. He figured, if he can walk out of Qatar with decent points, once they go to Spain (Jerez, Estoril, Le Mans, lets face it, that is Spain too, .... not counting all the other Spanish rounds), then he will have a fighting chance. Also, remember, once a person gets a lead, to make up points, one must take risks. In the past, that may have translated in crashes for Stoner (who knows).



I think this championship will come down to DNFs in particular this year.

J4rn0 said:

I always admired Stoner, like you, but this is not really fair Jum.

Stoner himself said he could not ride the Ducati fast when he wasn't 100% fit. I, for one, believed him.



Rossi said his shoulder will not be OK until May or June. If you cannot believe him, at least give him the benefit of doubt -- he's Rossi, after all. If in July he is still struggling like now, then you'll be right that the only alien is in fact Stoner.

But if he'll be making rapid progress, then we'll know that the reason for his difficulties was mainly the shoulder and I will be right in what I always said: that the two only aliens are Rossi and Stoner.

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Fair enough J4rno. Please,bare with me on the following, as it may sound a bit like "hating". However, the heal date seems to keep moving further away. At what point did everybody else's injuries count for an off-set of results? Does Rossi only get to be judged on results once his injury heals? Then perhaps we should go back and off-set all rider's performances? Is that fair? Seriously, should we off-set? You know all we do around here is pass judgement on guys where they came in their finishing order. In 07, I cried foul because Hayden was riding a Pedrocycle. Is this not an off-set too? Just like Rossi now, they admit it is a difficult machine for him? You see, its this double standard that Rossi only seems to get that I point out at every corner which has helped me pick up a reputation for hating. But yet, the logic of what I'm saying still remains. Why?



Here is what keeps happening, Rossi fans keep thinking that Rossi can match Stoner on the Ducati. Why???????? Four world champs have failed to match Stoner, and by all accounts, they were actually similar (regardless that you guys will disagree). But Capirossi, Melandri, Hayden, and Rossi are similar in that they did well on smoother more conventional motorcycles. So why would Rossi be any different? Because he's won so many titles? Is that the explanation? Well then, what did he win them on, all conventional bikes. But now we see a desperation to rationalize Rossi's poor performance on injury. You said yourself that wasn't a good enough excuse (do your remember your take after Valencia test? I do). Why can't peeps just say, 'well, chalk up Rossi to another world champ that failed to match Stoner on the pesky and peculiar Ducati.' Is this "hating" (yes, i know you haven't accused me of it) but really now, why hold on to this notion that Rossi will have such a different experience? There are pages and pages on another thread I left where some stubborn member wants to frame the question so unrealitic to make some point that if Rossi had more power, he would have been closer to Stoner. This is clearly a desperate attempt to make sense out of Rossi's struggle, a struggle that is actually the norm for anybody not named Casey Stoner. Hell even JB, a man who unlike any of us would know better, even he was suckered into thinking Stoner was ......... Les you forget, he played off the cue from Rossi into saying Stoner wasn't really pushing.



Anyway brotha, no big deal, its only racing. Nothing important right. You can look back if you like, but I do think Rossi will improve. But not because he is better than Casey on a Ducati, but rather, because they will scrap the Ducati and rebuild something with a Ducati sticker. There is no shame in that as long as we all admit it.

SackWack said:

I've heard a lot of this talk around. What exactly are people trying to say here? The Honda is looking better than it really is because everyone is trying to catch Stoner?



And this didn't apply at Ducati because...?

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Yes,I would think so.Stoner is the difference at both Honda and Ducati IMHO.

It seems ,as have been said by quite afew journalists and makes sence,that Honda is just loving this situation.Everyone is wondering what Honda has done over the winter(and late 2010).Rumors of technical superiority and so on.Their official answers to the gearbox -Nothing illegal,just a great gearbox,but we don't know if we had it in 2010?!?!........!(I read that somewhere,maybe the journalist asked the wrong person..)

Yes the gearbox is smooth,engine is smooth and the chassi works(frontend).But the big reasons for the many Hondas up there is that it's a bike that is done a few races from the end of 2010,a well working machine,many fairly fast and fast riders,Stoner raising the bar,the others hasn't got much of an excuse not to be fast.



Ducati does not have a well working bike since late 2010 to build on(like Honda).They had Stoner and his crew try different settings for big part of 2010 and finally found something that Stoner could use.Hayden and his crew were doing well too but still had to search for many raceweekends before they found something that worked.

They still didn't have a good base setting it seems,like Yamaha and Honda seems to have had from the beginning of 2010.IMHO Ducati is about a year behind,if Rossi/Burgess can use the parts from testing in Estoril, they might have a good bike from about half of this season,like Yamaha and Honda had a year earlier.I don't know when the solutions will be avaliable for the Ducati satellite teams or what deals for upgrades they have(if they can afford it).Late in this season?

BigAl said:

hence the reason why dani's shoulder gayed out on him mid race...having to push so much harder than he was comfortable with to stay at or near the front...

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Maybe yes.It could be happening in the future too if Stoner gets to head the developement,perhaps not being that sensitive to roughness and Pedrosa keeps injuring himself.I thought from the beginning when I (we) found out that the Honda is way smoother than Ducati but still as powerful,what if for late 2011 and the 2012 Honda would make a bike more brutal that doesn't have to be as smooth,it would be a freak in acceleration and topspeed.

I don't know,maybe this talk sounds a bit naive,but something like that could happen I think.(Honda makes a 930cc 22000rpm)