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Is Gas-Powered Racing Innovation Dead?

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The article is mainly about electronic bikes and the TTXGP vs. EPower schism, but it is good reading for fans of GP racing. It also poses a valid question about the viability of using racing to develop production relevant ICE technology. Personally, I believe that production relevant technology and racing should be separated b/c race fans around the world have seen what happens when the manufacturers support onerous production-relevant regulations. MotoGP is going through the worst of it right now, with the unforgivable 21L rule.



Give it a read. It's 5 minutes well spent, imo.



Did anyone know that the entire TTXGP rulebook is open source? Remarkable.
 
I`ve not read it Lex,but an LPG powered Focus has started to make its prescence known in BTCC driven by Tom Onslow Cole.Its certainly got the measure of the rest of the field.
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Reasonable read.



Dude, all you needed to do was provide the link. The psychotic right-wing rant was completely unnecessary....
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Reasonable read.



Dude, all you needed to do was provide the link. The psychotic right-wing rant was completely unnecessary....
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Seeing as I'm a libertarian, you weren't treated to any right-wing ranting. Anyway, I'll edit the original b/c this is not the lounge.
 
No! Fossil fuel technology is not dead. It was killed due to politicians (on both sides). Fossil fuel technology no longer has the push towards change and development because of incentives from the governments and from private backers to institute change.



The first part I don't understand how it fits.



Event attendance at NASCAR, MotoGP and other series has plummeted during the recession.



That's because it costs us at least a thousand dollars to have a decent weekend at these events. And in todays world, less and less people have that kind of expendable money to spend on such vacations.



Formula One and MotoGP fans and racers alike complain that excessive use of electronics has ruined the sport by making it less competitive.



These have nothing to do with fossil fuel power plants. Traction control, launch control are liked by racers. ECU technology is a good thing. It tunes the engines anyway you want to. You can take a F1 powerplant and tune it to a few hundred horsepower. It works with fuel efficiency and exhaust output.



The new Moto2 spec engine class is by far the most competitive and exciting, yet comparatively low-tech.



Spec racing is awesome. Check out a GP2, GP3, WSR race! Great racing, spec racing, but it lacks creativity, lacks the full excitement of racing. I and most fans love racing of the machines, not just the riders. I love watching Rossi take on Stoner, but I also love the Yamaha/Ducati battle between the two.



Electric motorcycle racing series TTXGP has spawned more innovation halfway through its first season than quite possibly the entire ICE motorcycle industry has over the past decade



That's due to the rule book. In MotoGP, WSBK, F1, IRL, rules keep the cars into such a spec, that it takes away creativity, innovation.





It's a fine line in racing today between costs and what the people want. Everyone wants the super fast, super technological machines, but the costs are not there.
 

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