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Informative GP 1000 Article
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I'm very pessimistic about these new rules at the moment so I hope Noyes is right that simplicity and uniformity will help improve the sport. I'm finding it a bit difficult to believe ATM. However, I am confident that the racing should improve drastically (at least the spectacle if not the closeness) b/c the bikes will have very different power characteristics.
Noyes makes a good point though, the devil is certainly in the details. After the next meeting in February, we may have a very different outlook.
Noyes makes a good point though, the devil is certainly in the details. After the next meeting in February, we may have a very different outlook.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Dec 17 2009, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm very pessimistic about these new rules at the moment so I hope Noyes is right that simplicity and uniformity will help improve the sport. I'm finding it a bit difficult to believe ATM. However, I am confident that the racing should improve drastically (at least the spectacle if not the closeness) b/c the bikes will have very different power characteristics.
Noyes makes a good point though, the devil is certainly in the details. After the next meeting in February, we may have a very different outlook.
He usually is
Noyes makes a good point though, the devil is certainly in the details. After the next meeting in February, we may have a very different outlook.
He usually is
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Dec 18 2009, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>He usually is
The joys of having a native English speaker embedded in Spain.
The joys of having a native English speaker embedded in Spain.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Traverser @ Dec 18 2009, 06:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Aren't they going to get rid of carbon brakes next year?
I haven't heard that.
I haven't heard that.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Dec 19 2009, 08:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I haven't heard that.
It was proposed to be banned or at least limited in 09, though at the beginning of the year they wanted a complete ban.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Ideas--for the 2010 season--bounced around thus far include:
Making carbon-carbon brakes illegal and requiring MotoGP bikes to use steel brakes. This rule will save the teams as much as $250k per motorcycle but will remove the very trick composite brakes from the world stage.
LINK
I think they are going to use them but just ban them from certain tests. At least that's whta I'm reading:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>2. 2009-2010 tests
3. Ceramic composite materials shall not be permitted for brake discs and pads.
...
For 2010
4. Carbon composite front brake discs must be of one diameter only and two types of mass. The diameter will be 320mm only.
LINK
It was proposed to be banned or at least limited in 09, though at the beginning of the year they wanted a complete ban.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Ideas--for the 2010 season--bounced around thus far include:
Making carbon-carbon brakes illegal and requiring MotoGP bikes to use steel brakes. This rule will save the teams as much as $250k per motorcycle but will remove the very trick composite brakes from the world stage.
LINK
I think they are going to use them but just ban them from certain tests. At least that's whta I'm reading:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>2. 2009-2010 tests
3. Ceramic composite materials shall not be permitted for brake discs and pads.
...
For 2010
4. Carbon composite front brake discs must be of one diameter only and two types of mass. The diameter will be 320mm only.
LINK
Jumkie, as far as I know the ceramic composite brakes referred to are a newer technology that's currently not on par with carbon-carbon. The regulations you cite from your second link are more to keep manufacturers from spending money on new brake tech, not hase out the old stuff (at least not yet).
