Indy 2010 *RACE* Thread

[FACTORY]

forget fixing it, just remove it and replace it with another track in the US. there are plenty of them.

other than Laguna and Miller....what tracks are MotoGP capable??

 

[Tekniqs]

take it off the calendar imo...the only thing exciting about the track was hurricane ike. they can add that track they had on the sbk demo (portugal?)..was a nice track!



sad about that 13 year old kid...but that's racing..everyone knows the risk of it.



and dorna (msma?) stop ....... up motogp...it's in a very SAD state right now. 1000cc (1200cc?) no fuel limit/bare minimum of electronics (or none at all) and let the races be decided by the racers and not the perfect set up.

 

[mylexicon]

other than Laguna and Miller....what tracks are MotoGP capable??

It's the new Texas F1 track they are after.



If you can't be in Cali, you want to be in Texas (especially with Ben Spies) or Florida. Those are the other major motorcycle markets. I like Indy, but Dorna are surely looking at the new F1 facility in Austin.

 

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i cant wait

 

[Arrabbiata1]

other than Laguna and Miller....what tracks are MotoGP capable??

Barber, Road America, and to be honest...Daytona.



Spies did well today. I'd like to see Dani win the same race as his competition one day.



I found that pretty uninspiring - we desperately need a close race now...and Misano just doesn't do it in this class. We're gonna have to wait for PI.



In the meantime, I'm so uninspired here's another picture of fleegle.



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[mylexicon]

Barber, Road America, and to be honest...Daytona

Are you well?

None of those places are remotely up to FIM standards. Not saying I wouldn't enjoy seeing a MotoGP race at one of those venues.

 

[Arrabbiata1]

Are you well?

None of those places are remotely up to FIM standards. Not saying I wouldn't enjoy seeing a MotoGP race at one of those venues.

No - quite possibly not...but thanks for your concern Lex.



You may be right, but I don't see Laguna being significantly safer than any of them.



And yes - Barber would be instantly approved by the FIM. It was pencilled in to host a round way back in '05. Indy eventually prevailed.

 

[JohnnyKnockdown]

Gee Leno did you even want to be there. That was a lackluster flag wave. The ...... hasn't changed clothes since last month before Laguna. On top of that jeans and a jean shirt. Back in the 80's when that was in style it really wasn't in style.



The Ducati is still, as it always has been a steaming pile of ..... It that bike 2 feet longer than any other bike on the track, it's like watching an 18 wheeler do a u turn. I am in awe watching Stoner and Nicky actually finish in the top 10 on a bike that can't turn. When you actually get it to turn then you just hang on and pray your not going to washout. The 1st Ducati to cross the line was a second over the 1st suzuki.

You can't put this one on Nicky. He looked like he was wrestling a bull while everyone was blowing by him.

Jorge finally has his 1st or 2nd place streak come to an end and Valentino looks hapless once again.

 

[BarryMachine]

I actually woke up for the race. Didn't expect much cos I am not real keen on Indy as a track.



The death of that 13 year old .... just so bummed.

 

[mylexicon]

No - quite possibly not...but thanks for your concern Lex.



You may be right, but I don't see Laguna being significantly safer than any of them.



And yes - Barber would be instantly approved by the FIM. It was pencilled in to host a round way back in '05. Indy eventually prevailed.

It would have been a mistake to take GP to Barber without circuit modifications. Even the airfence has failed to save people at Barber on occassion. Roger Lee broke his leg in turn 3 when he slid through the runoff and under the airfence barrier in 2006. Barber is epic, and it is one of the safest tracks in the US, imo, but it was still designed with cars in mind. A few tweaks and it would be good to go, but who knows how much those tweaks would cost?

 

[Pigeon]

Colin had no heart in racing his head was fooked up being a good family friend of the Lenz's and young Peters death was devastating to him

 

[Pigeon]

costume malfunction



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[BarryMachine]

Colin had no heart in racing his head was fooked up being a good family friend of the Lenz's and young Peters death was devastating to him

Yeah Colin seemed fairly distracted. In reality I think a lot of the riders are affected by this. Rossi did not perform, and after having his say about the track surface it must affect you.



Hayden seemed oddly slow for Indy, maybe it got to him too?



Stoner put his dismay at the track forward on Aust. TV, I wondered why but I guess I see now, he has always been a very "help the juniors oriented type.



Could have affected many of them?

 

[michaelm]

The Honda didn't look to solid in the hands of Dovi, 3 Yams after Pedders, M1 is still the bike to beat IMO.



Rossi dug deep, very impressive again after so many crashes, I vote for a removal of Indy from the calender until they sort the track-absolutely deadly, much better circuits around the world.

Sure, I think jorge likely elected to survive rather than win the race.

 

[MdubSTYLIE]

Gee Leno did you even want to be there. That was a lackluster flag wave. The ...... hasn't changed clothes since last month before Laguna. On top of that jeans and a jean shirt. Back in the 80's when that was in style it really wasn't in style.



The Ducati is still, as it always has been a steaming pile of ..... It that bike 2 feet longer than any other bike on the track, it's like watching an 18 wheeler do a u turn. I am in awe watching Stoner and Nicky actually finish in the top 10 on a bike that can't turn. When you actually get it to turn then you just hang on and pray your not going to washout. The 1st Ducati to cross the line was a second over the 1st suzuki.

You can't put this one on Nicky. He looked like he was wrestling a bull while everyone was blowing by him.

Jorge finally has his 1st or 2nd place streak come to an end and Valentino looks hapless once again.

Around here we call that a Canadian tuxedo.

 

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Around here we call that a Canadian tuxedo.

thats what i called it

 

[ajithblack]

The race had many crashes and Jeorge lost his consequtive 1/2 positions..

Sadest thing is the death of an innocent kid. RIP little racer..

 

[Pigeon]

Full Q&A



http://motomatters.com/interview/2010/08/30/valentino_rossi_motogp_is_very_boring_we.html

Valentino Rossi: "MotoGP Is Very Boring, We Need Less Electronics"

Q: The top 10 in Brno was split by 40 seconds, and today the top 10 was covered by 51 seconds …



VR: 51! F!



Q: Not so much entertainment for the crowds, what's your feeling about this?



VR: So I think this is a big problem for MotoGP, because the races are very boring. We lose our best card, especially compared to Formula 1. Because until 2006, with Michelin and Bridgestone but with 1000 engine, less electronics, f, the races was unbelievable. A lot of people stay glued to the television, because you know that for sure MotoGP will be a great excitement. When Bridgestone arrived, 800 arrived, and this amount of electronics arrived, make this race very very boring, so is like sleeping like with Formula 1.



So I hope that they have in mind this. Not for next year, because for next year is the same, but for 2012, when they have to make new rules for the 1000, take out some electronics, take out some anti-wheelie, take out some anti-spin. The people want to see the bikes make wheelies, make slide. This is like the remote control, you know? So, the rider cannot make any more difference.



In the last lap, if you have 1.5 or 2 seconds, you remain with 1.5 or 2 seconds, maybe you gain 0.5, before you gain 0.5 in two laps, when you are in a good shape with a good setting. Now is like everybody the same, because all the acceleration, all the anti-wheelie is controlled from the bike. So I hope that to fix this problem that the 1000 bike, so is not enough just 1000. The problem is the electronics, so I hope they try to make less electronics with the 1000cc bikes.

 

[LittleEgg]

Full Q&A



http://motomatters.com/interview/2010/08/30/valentino_rossi_motogp_is_very_boring_we.html

Valentino Rossi: "MotoGP Is Very Boring, We Need Less Electronics"

Q: The top 10 in Brno was split by 40 seconds, and today the top 10 was covered by 51 seconds …



VR: 51! F!



Q: Not so much entertainment for the crowds, what's your feeling about this?



VR: So I think this is a big problem for MotoGP, because the races are very boring. We lose our best card, especially compared to Formula 1. Because until 2006, with Michelin and Bridgestone but with 1000 engine, less electronics, f, the races was unbelievable. A lot of people stay glued to the television, because you know that for sure MotoGP will be a great excitement. When Bridgestone arrived, 800 arrived, and this amount of electronics arrived, make this race very very boring, so is like sleeping like with Formula 1.



So I hope that they have in mind this. Not for next year, because for next year is the same, but for 2012, when they have to make new rules for the 1000, take out some electronics, take out some anti-wheelie, take out some anti-spin. The people want to see the bikes make wheelies, make slide. This is like the remote control, you know? So, the rider cannot make any more difference.



In the last lap, if you have 1.5 or 2 seconds, you remain with 1.5 or 2 seconds, maybe you gain 0.5, before you gain 0.5 in two laps, when you are in a good shape with a good setting. Now is like everybody the same, because all the acceleration, all the anti-wheelie is controlled from the bike. So I hope that to fix this problem that the 1000 bike, so is not enough just 1000. The problem is the electronics, so I hope they try to make less electronics with the 1000cc bikes.

Pretty much QFT



Stoner actually made the weekend for me, i laughed my head off at his "demon late breakers" comment! Not in a stoner bashing type of way but it really tickled me.



So it wasnt all boring.

 

[Talpa]

Full Q&A



http://motomatters.com/interview/2010/08/30/valentino_rossi_motogp_is_very_boring_we.html

Valentino Rossi: "MotoGP Is Very Boring, We Need Less Electronics"

Q: The top 10 in Brno was split by 40 seconds, and today the top 10 was covered by 51 seconds …



VR: 51! F!



Q: Not so much entertainment for the crowds, what's your feeling about this?



VR: So I think this is a big problem for MotoGP, because the races are very boring. We lose our best card, especially compared to Formula 1. Because until 2006, with Michelin and Bridgestone but with 1000 engine, less electronics, f, the races was unbelievable. A lot of people stay glued to the television, because you know that for sure MotoGP will be a great excitement. When Bridgestone arrived, 800 arrived, and this amount of electronics arrived, make this race very very boring, so is like sleeping like with Formula 1.



So I hope that they have in mind this. Not for next year, because for next year is the same, but for 2012, when they have to make new rules for the 1000, take out some electronics, take out some anti-wheelie, take out some anti-spin. The people want to see the bikes make wheelies, make slide. This is like the remote control, you know? So, the rider cannot make any more difference.



In the last lap, if you have 1.5 or 2 seconds, you remain with 1.5 or 2 seconds, maybe you gain 0.5, before you gain 0.5 in two laps, when you are in a good shape with a good setting. Now is like everybody the same, because all the acceleration, all the anti-wheelie is controlled from the bike. So I hope that to fix this problem that the 1000 bike, so is not enough just 1000. The problem is the electronics, so I hope they try to make less electronics with the 1000cc bikes.

....... HERE HERE!!!!



How Many times does the GOAT and many, many other have to say it, fix it for next year!! Hopefully Brigdestone will pull out at the end of this season, IMO this particular control rubber has a lot to do with it......



Listen you ....... coaaacccckhead Spaniads!!