Hopkins

We will never know unless all the americans ride rcvs on michelins.
But he's the only one who has never been a world champ.
Still my favourite rider though (as well as Rossi).

Thats true.
He does have two (i think) championships to his name though in the AMA. If you want to call that a world championship.

I think that the reason Chris put up great results along side Hopkins this year is because Chris is a great rider. This should not take anything away from Hopkins. I can see brilliance in Hopkins and Chris. I have said for a long time that I think they are the best rider team in GP right now. I prey that the 800 suzuki will be more competitive. If its on par with the yamaha and the honda I think you will see Hopkins and Chris both on the podium a few times this year and once or the other in the title hunt for a while.

Two bright young talents on poopy bikes. They are the future my friends!

Did you know CV is actually older than Hopper? By one year.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CaptainSnow @ Nov 3 2006, 05:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I believe John Hopkins is the best American talent on the grid.

I liked you until you said this....

But I know what you meant to say, here is my translation:

I believe John Hopkins is the best American talent on the grid (when Nicky is absent).

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eagle088 @ Nov 3 2006, 08:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think that the reason Chris put up great results along side Hopkins this year is because Chris is a great rider.

Chris was better suited for SBK, but he did scare the bageezas out of me at Laguna (remember his lap times). And Hopkins should have won in France. Had he won things would have been different for sure. Even though Rossi later led the race (unfortunatley then DNF), Hopkins had the edge. My opinion of course, but it seems to be the right one for me.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CaptainSnow @ Nov 3 2006, 08:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Two bright young talents on poopy bikes. They are the future my friends!

I like the future part. ah, you won me back over. I like you again.

I'm a die-hard fan!!

Believe it or not, I bet theres some die-hard out there that says Cardoso is a title threat so I can't be that bad!
lol

Hey Hector, I was led to beleive that both riders on Suzukis are riding development bikes and parts, not just Hopper. ?? chris was testing swingarms and other various bits at the start of season.

Hopper must've been in GP's from a very young age if he's a year younger that CV!

hopefully suzuki bring out something different.

now waits for Skidmark to come and tell us we've all had lobotomys curtiosy of Suzuki

Sorry to lower the tone but I saw the post and it has to be the best title ever! Is it sexual frustration thats hindering his results? Maybe if his results improve, he'll get a good ride, anyhow, I think we should focus on the riders racing rather than thier ... life.

Sorry again, but I couldnt resist it

Pete

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Katt @ Nov 3 2006, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hopper must've been in GP's from a very young age if he's a year younger that CV!

I think he was 19. Sadly, he joined a good 500 team when the RC211V started tearing up the tracks.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CaptainSnow @ Nov 3 2006, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Intresting story:
When he does well the news show him as Anglo-American (British American). When he does poop he is just said to be American.
Little weird isn't it??Same as it ever was


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CaptainSnow @ Nov 3 2006, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>For the last two contract renewals he has had talks with Ducati but for some reason he always goes back to Suzuki.Are both JH and CV in the middle of two year contracts?


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Eagle088 @ Nov 3 2006, 04:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think you will see Hopkins and Chris both on the podium a few times this year and once or the other in the title hunt for a while.Eagle, I'd like to share your optimism but on past form Suzuki haven't produced the goods. Unless head office have given them a huge injection of cash, I'd say putting this new 800 on the startline has been difficult. Suzuki's budget in motoGP is nothing compared to Honda and Yamaha. I could be wrong but it seems that way. I'll bet you this though, Biaggi is getting paid more to ride in WSB than Hopper or CV in GP's. It's about priorities. Suzuki are selling a lot more streetbikes than they were 10 years ago, and it's not because of MotoGP.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Racejumkie @ Nov 3 2006, 05:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Chris was better suited for SBKWhat do you base that on?


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Katt @ Nov 4 2006, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hey Hector, I was led to beleive that both riders on Suzukis are riding development bikes and parts, not just Hopper. ?? chris was testing swingarms and other various bits at the start of season.

Hopper must've been in GP's from a very young age if he's a year younger that CV!

hopefully suzuki bring out something different.

now waits for Skidmark to come and tell us we've all had lobotomys curtiosy of Suzuki

Skid, next year they will be on the second year of their two year deals.

I'm an avid Suzuki fan, which is probably why it's the only brand of bike that I've owned. I hope that they make a championship bike sometime during the 800cc era. I did some GP history research and calculations, and I figured that Suzuki has an average of 1 title every 9-10 years. (thinking to myself, "man that sucks" ) Anyways, I'm hoping they do win 1 in the next 4 years. Man do I sound desperate. Probably not as desperate as Suzuki. Oh well, I hope Hopper and Chris improves from this season's results. A title would be nice, far fetched but nice.

Judging by the test times their 800 seems to be on the right path but we have been misled by their winter tests before.

Hopkins is a great talent, unfortunately he continually stays with Suzuki and lets all that talent go to waste. I think CV is an equal, if not bigger talent who has made the same mistake. I would really love to see them both near the front next season if the 800 really materializes.

id agree with the Capt. .. about Hopper being the best american.. if he had a decent ride then he'd be up there with Rossi/Hayden etc etc, im sure of that... i do prefer The V-Man tho to be honest... he was the only reason i watched WSBK.. haha hope they both kick ... in the championship next year!! 2 and 3rd behind Rossi ofcourse!!

How many engine failures will it take for Denning's spell to break on Hopper... The bike is ..... Always has been. Maybe John will have one of his tantrums next year and finally have the sense to end what he has with Suzuki.
I just hope that CV makes the jump, too. Nice kid. Fast kid. Been horribly misled. I wonder if Sheene's turning in his grave.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (skidmark @ Nov 4 2006, 02:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What do you base that on?


Simple. He was more successful with production type bikes. Just compare his record from SBK vs GP and you could see this. Chris was a championship contender in SBK not so in GP.

True, but he also took a podium on the GSV, and the only other man to do that was a former world champion. And Chris did it in his rookie season. And it is the Suzuki, after all. It's pretty safe to say that a Ten Kate CBR is more competitive on the SBK grid than a Factory GSV is on the MGP grid. Then there's the fact that the average skill is a lot higher in MotoGP. I think Vermulen can, and will adapt.

Jumkie, to say CV was better suited to WSB is being very hard on the guy. Being WSB title contender is no mean feat, so does that mean that he's better suited to production bikes? Take your pick, go for Rossi even, anybody who rides that Suzuki is going to look 'more suited' to something else. Comparing CV's record from WSB to GP's doesn't stack up one bit. It's not as simple as looking at results without taking anything else into consideration.