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That's funny!
The first four bullet points are just typical bits of trivia, and then some stats freak has added another four points taking the piss, with a dig at Edwards, too. Seems a bit too sophisticated for Pinky's M.O. though.
The first four bullet points are just typical bits of trivia, and then some stats freak has added another four points taking the piss, with a dig at Edwards, too. Seems a bit too sophisticated for Pinky's M.O. though.
lol, the last time i read his page it stopped at the Alonso bit. i'm surprised the Rossi boppers are wasting their time on Nicky instead of going after Lorenzo.
haha. nice one
the guy took time in adding some valueable info. I hope Hayden doesn't read it and realise where his career is heading
Has it been edited? Cos this is all I see...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'> Hayden has two brothers, Tommy and Roger Lee, both professional motorcycle racers in the AMA, and two sisters, Jenny and Kathleen.
Hayden lists Bubba Shobert, Will Davis, and Lance Armstrong as his personal heroes.
His traditional racing number, 69, was the same number his father used. His father jokes that the number was selected because it could still be read when he frequently ended up upside down in the weeds.
Nicky is one day younger than the double Formula One champion Fernando Alonso.
Anyone got a screencap of what it said???
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'> Hayden has two brothers, Tommy and Roger Lee, both professional motorcycle racers in the AMA, and two sisters, Jenny and Kathleen.
Hayden lists Bubba Shobert, Will Davis, and Lance Armstrong as his personal heroes.
His traditional racing number, 69, was the same number his father used. His father jokes that the number was selected because it could still be read when he frequently ended up upside down in the weeds.
Nicky is one day younger than the double Formula One champion Fernando Alonso.
Anyone got a screencap of what it said???
I didn't screencap,but basically it had bunch of statistics of Hayden averaging a win every 30 races or so while Rossi does it like every 2 or 3 races. Stuff like that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wander @ Nov 8 2009, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I didn't screencap,but basically it had bunch of statistics of Hayden averaging a win every 30 races or so while Rossi does it like every 2 or 3 races. Stuff like that.
Ah right, thanks.
Ah right, thanks.
Wow, it got edited.
Basically it said Nicky only averages a win every 2.5 years which is the lowest of any champ or some such stuff.
It said the only reason he won the championship was due to the fact he is very good at finishing third.
Other stats about how he wins a race every 38 races.
Probably all factual, but definitely not designed to be useful trivia. I don't know how I saw it, I just ramdomly stopped by his page and read the trivia. Weird stuff.
Basically it said Nicky only averages a win every 2.5 years which is the lowest of any champ or some such stuff.
It said the only reason he won the championship was due to the fact he is very good at finishing third.
Other stats about how he wins a race every 38 races.
Probably all factual, but definitely not designed to be useful trivia. I don't know how I saw it, I just ramdomly stopped by his page and read the trivia. Weird stuff.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinky @ Nov 8 2009, 06:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>a race every 2.5 years?? hes due for one in 2010 then. surely.
It really is only a matter of time until the big four get into a first lap pile up and then the question remains:
Will it be Hayden or Edwards? I think that might be the sole reason Edwards trucks on, he is just waiting for that day. It almost happened in Donington so its possible with Dovizioso's implosion.
This has been a very strange year in terms of parity.
Back to Hayden, if he can get the bike sorted he has a good (relatively, meaning 10-15%) shot at winning at Laguna, Indy and the PI as long as extenuating circumstances prevail, such as poor days/crashes from the top guys. I in no way hope for any such situation to arise, but it is interesting to think about. Hayden gets a bad rap about his cornerspeed but he is actually a very good passer, I'd say top 5 in motogp, perhaps even on par with Stoner and definitely better than Pedrosa, if he can ever get the pace back he can be on the sharp end once again. If you look at his short-lived dicing with lorenzo at Malaysia, those moves he pulled were actually quite good. He is one of the few who can pass a rider in front without severely outpacing them. I'd consider Elias in the same category. These two know how to race, they just needed those crucial tenths.
Most riders, when finding themselves hooked up behind a rider with identical pace, just there for the duration of the race, unable to make a move. Hayden can usually find a way past in 2-3 laps. A three lap set up time is quite long, but the passes generally stick once made. The former 250 riders seem to take a more aggressive approach, preparing for passes in sometimes less than half a lap, but usually its a basic ill-judged block pass where they overshoot the corner and leave the door open. The 250 kids love doing that for some reason.
Stoner's passing ability on a GP bike is really hard to gauge. He usually can afford to just wait to pass them on the straight by virtue of his vastly superior lap times. Stoner has demonstrated that he can execute hard passes when needed, but like any intelligent racer he picks his spots safely.
Rossi? There isn't anything that needs to be said. He passes where you didn't think it was possible. Lorenzo I'd put at second best. Pedrosa's passing this year has been atrocious, but his raw speed usually nullifies any deficiency. Spies is someone to watch in my book. The entire grid is proficient at most textbook maneuvers or they wouldn't be there, and most of the passes are textbook in nature. Any club racers can stuff someone they outpace with a block pace. Its the truly special passer that wins world championships.
Sorry for the tangent, I just don't think Hayden gets recognized for his abilities these days.
It really is only a matter of time until the big four get into a first lap pile up and then the question remains:
Will it be Hayden or Edwards? I think that might be the sole reason Edwards trucks on, he is just waiting for that day. It almost happened in Donington so its possible with Dovizioso's implosion.
This has been a very strange year in terms of parity.
Back to Hayden, if he can get the bike sorted he has a good (relatively, meaning 10-15%) shot at winning at Laguna, Indy and the PI as long as extenuating circumstances prevail, such as poor days/crashes from the top guys. I in no way hope for any such situation to arise, but it is interesting to think about. Hayden gets a bad rap about his cornerspeed but he is actually a very good passer, I'd say top 5 in motogp, perhaps even on par with Stoner and definitely better than Pedrosa, if he can ever get the pace back he can be on the sharp end once again. If you look at his short-lived dicing with lorenzo at Malaysia, those moves he pulled were actually quite good. He is one of the few who can pass a rider in front without severely outpacing them. I'd consider Elias in the same category. These two know how to race, they just needed those crucial tenths.
Most riders, when finding themselves hooked up behind a rider with identical pace, just there for the duration of the race, unable to make a move. Hayden can usually find a way past in 2-3 laps. A three lap set up time is quite long, but the passes generally stick once made. The former 250 riders seem to take a more aggressive approach, preparing for passes in sometimes less than half a lap, but usually its a basic ill-judged block pass where they overshoot the corner and leave the door open. The 250 kids love doing that for some reason.
Stoner's passing ability on a GP bike is really hard to gauge. He usually can afford to just wait to pass them on the straight by virtue of his vastly superior lap times. Stoner has demonstrated that he can execute hard passes when needed, but like any intelligent racer he picks his spots safely.
Rossi? There isn't anything that needs to be said. He passes where you didn't think it was possible. Lorenzo I'd put at second best. Pedrosa's passing this year has been atrocious, but his raw speed usually nullifies any deficiency. Spies is someone to watch in my book. The entire grid is proficient at most textbook maneuvers or they wouldn't be there, and most of the passes are textbook in nature. Any club racers can stuff someone they outpace with a block pace. Its the truly special passer that wins world championships.
Sorry for the tangent, I just don't think Hayden gets recognized for his abilities these days.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Nov 8 2009, 07:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Wow, it got edited.
Basically it said Nicky only averages a win every 2.5 years which is the lowest of any champ or some such stuff.
It said the only reason he won the championship was due to the fact he is very good at finishing third.
Other stats about how he wins a race every 38 races.
Probably all factual, but definitely not designed to be useful trivia. I don't know how I saw it, I just ramdomly stopped by his page and read the trivia. Weird stuff.
Guy's I saw where I was able to edit. And edit I did! While what was written may be true. It was worthless information. That had to be written by pinky, supershitbox56 or that ....... kenlucky from crsh.net forum. Wiki sometimes is a very unreliable information source.
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Basically it said Nicky only averages a win every 2.5 years which is the lowest of any champ or some such stuff.
It said the only reason he won the championship was due to the fact he is very good at finishing third.
Other stats about how he wins a race every 38 races.
Probably all factual, but definitely not designed to be useful trivia. I don't know how I saw it, I just ramdomly stopped by his page and read the trivia. Weird stuff.
Guy's I saw where I was able to edit. And edit I did! While what was written may be true. It was worthless information. That had to be written by pinky, supershitbox56 or that ....... kenlucky from crsh.net forum. Wiki sometimes is a very unreliable information source.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yello13 @ Nov 9 2009, 04:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It really is only a matter of time until the big four get into a first lap pile up...
the image of this made me laugh out loud..
Hope we see this next year at some point!
the image of this made me laugh out loud..
Hope we see this next year at some point!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yello13 @ Nov 8 2009, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It really is only a matter of time until the big four get into a first lap pile up and then the question remains:
Will it be Hayden or Edwards? I think that might be the sole reason Edwards trucks on, he is just waiting for that day. It almost happened in Donington so its possible with Dovizioso's implosion.
This has been a very strange year in terms of parity.
Back to Hayden, if he can get the bike sorted he has a good (relatively, meaning 10-15%) shot at winning at Laguna, Indy and the PI as long as extenuating circumstances prevail, such as poor days/crashes from the top guys. I in no way hope for any such situation to arise, but it is interesting to think about. Hayden gets a bad rap about his cornerspeed but he is actually a very good passer, I'd say top 5 in motogp, perhaps even on par with Stoner and definitely better than Pedrosa, if he can ever get the pace back he can be on the sharp end once again. If you look at his short-lived dicing with lorenzo at Malaysia, those moves he pulled were actually quite good. He is one of the few who can pass a rider in front without severely outpacing them. I'd consider Elias in the same category. These two know how to race, they just needed those crucial tenths.
Most riders, when finding themselves hooked up behind a rider with identical pace, just there for the duration of the race, unable to make a move. Hayden can usually find a way past in 2-3 laps. A three lap set up time is quite long, but the passes generally stick once made. The former 250 riders seem to take a more aggressive approach, preparing for passes in sometimes less than half a lap, but usually its a basic ill-judged block pass where they overshoot the corner and leave the door open. The 250 kids love doing that for some reason.
Stoner's passing ability on a GP bike is really hard to gauge. He usually can afford to just wait to pass them on the straight by virtue of his vastly superior lap times. Stoner has demonstrated that he can execute hard passes when needed, but like any intelligent racer he picks his spots safely.
Rossi? There isn't anything that needs to be said. He passes where you didn't think it was possible. Lorenzo I'd put at second best. Pedrosa's passing this year has been atrocious, but his raw speed usually nullifies any deficiency. Spies is someone to watch in my book. The entire grid is proficient at most textbook maneuvers or they wouldn't be there, and most of the passes are textbook in nature. Any club racers can stuff someone they outpace with a block pace. Its the truly special passer that wins world championships.
Sorry for the tangent, I just don't think Hayden gets recognized for his abilities these days.
Nice post. I was really enjoying watching Lorenzo and Hayden go hammer and tongs for that half a lap. I haven't seen Nicky fight back like that in quite some time. Good stuff.
Will it be Hayden or Edwards? I think that might be the sole reason Edwards trucks on, he is just waiting for that day. It almost happened in Donington so its possible with Dovizioso's implosion.
This has been a very strange year in terms of parity.
Back to Hayden, if he can get the bike sorted he has a good (relatively, meaning 10-15%) shot at winning at Laguna, Indy and the PI as long as extenuating circumstances prevail, such as poor days/crashes from the top guys. I in no way hope for any such situation to arise, but it is interesting to think about. Hayden gets a bad rap about his cornerspeed but he is actually a very good passer, I'd say top 5 in motogp, perhaps even on par with Stoner and definitely better than Pedrosa, if he can ever get the pace back he can be on the sharp end once again. If you look at his short-lived dicing with lorenzo at Malaysia, those moves he pulled were actually quite good. He is one of the few who can pass a rider in front without severely outpacing them. I'd consider Elias in the same category. These two know how to race, they just needed those crucial tenths.
Most riders, when finding themselves hooked up behind a rider with identical pace, just there for the duration of the race, unable to make a move. Hayden can usually find a way past in 2-3 laps. A three lap set up time is quite long, but the passes generally stick once made. The former 250 riders seem to take a more aggressive approach, preparing for passes in sometimes less than half a lap, but usually its a basic ill-judged block pass where they overshoot the corner and leave the door open. The 250 kids love doing that for some reason.
Stoner's passing ability on a GP bike is really hard to gauge. He usually can afford to just wait to pass them on the straight by virtue of his vastly superior lap times. Stoner has demonstrated that he can execute hard passes when needed, but like any intelligent racer he picks his spots safely.
Rossi? There isn't anything that needs to be said. He passes where you didn't think it was possible. Lorenzo I'd put at second best. Pedrosa's passing this year has been atrocious, but his raw speed usually nullifies any deficiency. Spies is someone to watch in my book. The entire grid is proficient at most textbook maneuvers or they wouldn't be there, and most of the passes are textbook in nature. Any club racers can stuff someone they outpace with a block pace. Its the truly special passer that wins world championships.
Sorry for the tangent, I just don't think Hayden gets recognized for his abilities these days.
Nice post. I was really enjoying watching Lorenzo and Hayden go hammer and tongs for that half a lap. I haven't seen Nicky fight back like that in quite some time. Good stuff.
