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Hamilton versus Rosberg is great for F1

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Coulthard is correct, we should enjoy the show.

David Coulthard said:
Mercedes are handling a very tricky situation between their two drivers Lewis Hamilton and Nico Rosberg about as well as they possibly could.

There is clearly a big problem between Hamilton and Rosberg and it came to a head at the Monaco Grand Prix at the weekend.

But Mercedes are very openly managing the media's expectations and desires to see something blow up.

The team are saying that they do what they can, which is ask them not to crash into each other, but for the rest the drivers are racers, and so are the team, and they are going to let them go racing.

They know it will cause them problems, but you would much rather face that than trying to make the car go faster. In that sense, it is a good problem to have to manage.

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Agreed Povol.

.... off Slarty, if you want a lesson on who's a cheating .... then look no further than Hamilton! You ....... fan boys have so much .... over your eyes from wanking off every time you see Hamilton to open your eyes and realise not everyone else cheats, he got beaten fair and square.
 
Im just waiting on the whining little .......... to play the race card AGAIN. What a ........., he had the entire race with numerous restarts to prove his superiority but failed. I kept thinking Rosberg was going to get ...... on the pit exchange but the caution saved him from the team playing shenanigans. You want to talk cheating, look no farther than Mercedes illegal tire testing last year, which by the way included Hamilton. Maybe its just Germans in general who cheat.
 
Yeah I know a guy who's kid raced against him. The little ...... and his dad were always pulling the race card.
 
OK, so you have inside knowledge in earlier Formulae, but how has he pulled the race card in f1?
 
OK, so you have inside knowledge in earlier Formulae, but how has he pulled the race card in f1?

The clear fact that Lewis Hamilton was totally deserving of his penalties apparently carried no weight with the McLaren driver. It seems also that the 2008 Formula One World Driving Champion feels no remorse over having ended a rather good race for Ferrari's Filipe Massa and Williams driver Pastor Maldonado.

“It's a absolute frickin' joke!” Hamilton bellowed when he stormed up to see the stewards, one of whom was British sportscar driver Allan McNish. When asked why Lewis believed the panel of four was victimizing him, Hamilton barked, “Maybe it's because I'm black.”
 
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The clear fact that Lewis Hamilton was totally deserving of his penalties apparently carried no weight with the McLaren driver. It seems also that the 2008 Formula One World Driving Champion feels no remorse over having ended a rather good race for Ferrari's Filipe Massa and Williams driver Pastor Maldonado.

“It's a absolute frickin' joke!” Hamilton bellowed when he stormed up to see the stewards, one of whom was British sportscar driver Allan McNish. When asked why Lewis believed the panel of four was victimizing him, Hamilton barked, “Maybe it's because I'm black.”

Beat that Yamaka.

(Thats from Monaco 2011 I believe)

Or you could try this alternative reading of the same scenario, from this link

It was a phrase that always got laughs when said by comedian Ali G, but Lewis Hamilton's response on Sunday to the suggestion that he was being targeted by Formula One officials – "maybe it's because I’m black" – drew more gasps of shock than chuckles from onlookers.

The joke – it was clearly an attempt at humour – came during a remarkably heated post-race interview from the Englishman after he finished a lowly sixth in the Monaco Grand Prix.

Hamilton was penalised twice by the stewards for incidents in the race which resulted in a clash of cars. The first, a brush with Felipe Massa, earned Hamilton a drive through penalty, while a subsequent tangle with Pastor Maldonado, resulted in a 20-second deduction.

Hamilton, however, refused to take the blame for his aggressive overtaking manoeuvres. "It's an absolute frickin' joke," he fumed in a BBC interview. "I've been to see the stewards five times out of six this season."

He went on: "Massa held me up in qualifying, I got the penalty. He turned in to me [during the race], I got the penalty. These drivers are ridiculous. It's stupid."

Warming to his argument, Hamilton said: "People want to see racing. But you get done trying to put on a show, trying to make a move. Fair play, if I feel I've gone too late I'd hold my hand up to admit I've caused an incident. But it's not the case."

The young former world champion was visibly frustrated with his poor showing in Monaco, the latest bad result in a disappointing start to the season. Yet his reaction to this latest setback, and in particular his suggestion that he was being targeted by F1 officials, drew criticism from commentators.

When asked why he felt stewards were deliberately targeting him, Hamilton responded: "Maybe it's because I'm black. That's what Ali G says. I dunno."

Bsnell, why so keen to jump on me over this? I was asking a sensible, civilised question, not calling anyone a liar. I was not doubting your insider knowledge, just asking for examples I might have seen as an F1 armchair enthusiast.

I'm sure, like all racers, Hamilton is not easy to like - most are arrogant feckers, but I do like to see the data when people make broad brush statements, such as "waiting for him to play the race card AGAIN". Your real is not necessarily mine, no disrespect, no argument.
 
Or you could try this alternative reading of the same scenario, from this link



Bsnell, why so keen to jump on me over this? I was asking a sensible, civilised question, not calling anyone a liar. I was not doubting your insider knowledge, just asking for examples I might have seen as an F1 armchair enthusiast.

I'm sure, like all racers, Hamilton is not easy to like - most are arrogant feckers, but I do like to see the data when people make broad brush statements, such as "waiting for him to play the race card AGAIN". Your real is not necessarily mine, no disrespect, no argument.

That was a weak attempt of covering his ... after the .... hit the fan

Later, as McLaren set about trying to control the damage he caused, Lewis returned to the stewards to attempt to make amends.

“I've been to the stewards to make peace,” Hamilton announced. “What I said was a bit of a joke, which wasn't funny at the time. I made them aware that when emotions are high, and it's very intense at the end of those kind of races, you don't always say the right thing, and the joke didn't come at the most appropriate time.
 
It always depends on how you interpret it, but no amount of word bending changes what he said, he said (jokingly or not) that the stewards were picking on him because he was black. Thats him using the race card, whatever way you cut it. He was making out that he wasn't being summoned to the stewards for the fact that he drove like an arrogant prick and crashed into 2 other cars during that race, no it was merely because he was black. Well thats BS.

At the end of the day, it works to his advantage too. How many times has he used being the 'first black x' to promote himself? You can't use skin colour for you, then claim racism when you percieve (wrongly) it to be being used against you. Thats all I'm sayin'
 
That was a weak attempt of covering his ... after the .... hit the fan

Later, as McLaren set about trying to control the damage he caused, Lewis returned to the stewards to attempt to make amends.

“I've been to the stewards to make peace,” Hamilton announced. “What I said was a bit of a joke, which wasn't funny at the time. I made them aware that when emotions are high, and it's very intense at the end of those kind of races, you don't always say the right thing, and the joke didn't come at the most appropriate time.

It always depends on how you interpret it, but no amount of word bending changes what he said, he said (jokingly or not) that the stewards were picking on him because he was black. Thats him using the race card, whatever way you cut it. He was making out that he wasn't being summoned to the stewards for the fact that he drove like an arrogant prick and crashed into 2 other cars during that race, no it was merely because he was black. Well thats BS.

At the end of the day, it works to his advantage too. How many times has he used being the 'first black x' to promote himself? You can't use skin colour for you, then claim racism when you percieve (wrongly) it to be being used against you. Thats all I'm sayin'
I think he made the point at the stewards meeting and they accepted it, hence no fine etc. IMHO, the Massa incidents were far too many to be co-incidence and IMHO it wasn't Hamilton in the wrong the majority of times, but that in itself is conjecture and opinion.

If you look at the incidents as not being Hamilton's fault, the whole racism thing falls on its .... If, however, you see those incidents as being Hamilton's fault, then I can see how the whole thing would escalate. IMHO it all hinges on whether you thought Massa or Hamilton at fault. A bit like the McLaren year with Alonso - down to which driver you prefer if not viewed with total objectivism, and who is seriously capable of that?
 
A bit like the McLaren year with Alonso - down to which driver you prefer if not viewed with total objectivism, and who is seriously capable of that?

True, its always likely you'll favour your preferred driver and while I agree to an extent about the Massa insidents, there were an awful lot that were Hamiltons own doing.
 
I think he made the point at the stewards meeting and they accepted it, hence no fine etc. IMHO, the Massa incidents were far too many to be co-incidence and IMHO it wasn't Hamilton in the wrong the majority of times, but that in itself is conjecture and opinion.

If you look at the incidents as not being Hamilton's fault, the whole racism thing falls on its .... If, however, you see those incidents as being Hamilton's fault, then I can see how the whole thing would escalate. IMHO it all hinges on whether you thought Massa or Hamilton at fault. A bit like the McLaren year with Alonso - down to which driver you prefer if not viewed with total objectivism, and who is seriously capable of that?
........, there is never a right or wrong time to play the race card. You cant just say anything you want followed by , " oh, i was just joking" He ...... up. realized the moment after being dressed down by his superiors and went looking for forgiveness.
 
........, there is never a right or wrong time to play the race card. You cant just say anything you want followed by , " oh, i was just joking" He ...... up. realized the moment after being dressed down by his superiors and went looking for forgiveness.
With the massive political correctness these days (I have no idea how to correctly describe Hamilton - is it "black", is it "coloured" is it "ethinc", is it "Afro-Caribbean" or are these now "insults"? - ffs this is out of hand) how is he to deal with the same PC bollox?

Does he try to make a joke of it? I genuinely believe he tried to, a la Ali G, rather than ....... up and being "dressed down" by the team etc. as you claim - BTW, there is no info out there that substantiated your POV that I can find.

Or should he not mention anything that might make people feel he is "pulling the race card" because it's not PC?

If you really feel the latter is true then your "PC attitude" is causing a fellow human being to have to modify his speech and thought processes because he is black - you see how ...... up this .... has become???*

I wish that all the PC crowd (in whatever walk of life) could be put against a f-ing wall and shot. So there - childish or not, you can stuff that in you PC hat and smoke it!!

*For the interests of clarity, I am white British with Scots and English in my heritage.
 

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