For those that trashed Spies as being greedy

And you know what,he should get it.A race or a series of races with him and Rossi would be a pay per view bonanza that would easily pay both that much and more.



http://superbikeplanet.com/2009/Jan/0901270wsa72.htm

Greedy? I don't get it Povol. Let see, Rossi makes what? 40-50 Mil and just got thrown Monster cash, and Bayliss, what does he make?

So Rossi wants to race Bayliss, who is out of the training and mindset to compete, and Bayliss is supposed to jump because Vale wants to prove something? ...., if Rossi was so interested in proving himself, he should have thought of this a couple years ago while Bayliss was engulfed in the racing mindset. What next, is Rossi gonna challenge Mick Doohan to a race? That’s a bit rich for him to ask Bayliss to back out of his retirement simply because discerning people realize what Bayliss has really accomplished, a truer test of rider among standard machines.

Bayliss is one of the fittest guys you're ever likely to meet so I don't think that will be a problem - cycling is his 2nd favourite sport and he rides 100's of kilometres a week and I doubt whether he's got too slack since retiring.
He's definately one of the most motivated racers that I've seen, even amongst all these professional road racers. The guy simply hates to lose. I don't see motivation being a problem.
I think it depends how much cash he and the family really would like out of it, as to whether his wife would let him race.
Personally, I don't think he should do it - he's got nothing to prove. If Rossi really wanted to race him on a superbike why didn't he try to do it a few years ago? It was obvious with Troys age that he'd have to be retiring soon.
If Rossi really wants to race superbikes he should go do it. There's nothing to stop him, he's got nothing to prove in MotoGP.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jan 27 2009, 06:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Greedy? I don't get it Povol. Let see, Rossi makes what? 40-50 Mil and just got thrown Monster cash, and Bayliss, what does he make?

So Rossi wants to race Bayliss, who is out of the training and mindset to compete, and Bayliss is supposed to jump because Vale wants to prove something? ...., if Rossi was so interested in proving himself, he should have thought of this a couple years ago while Bayliss was engulfed in the racing mindset. What next, is Rossi gonna challenge Mick Doohan to a race? That’s a bit rich for him to ask Bayliss to back out of his retirement simply because discerning people realize what Bayliss has really accomplished, a truer test of rider among standard machines.
I think you might have missed what i was saying.People on this board trashed Spies for asking 2 million to race GP. Bayliss says for a couple 2-3 million he might race with Rossi for 1 race.It was the greedy American that wouldnt race for peanuts,remember.Im all for getting paid,especially in a sport that can kill you.I was just wandering if Bayless was going to be the greedy Aussie,like Spies was the greedy American

I don't think Bayliss would be called greedy, just as I don't know Spies should be called that. To me Spies probably had/has a manager who probably didn't realise what the market was offering, (especially to a talented but still untried) rider from the USA who was obviously making a lot more in the USA than most riders were in WSBK and motoGP.
If Bayliss does it he should try and screw every last cent out of the organisers for his retirement fund. I really couldn't see any other motivation for him to do it.

Prescient rather than greedy might better apply to spies currently. If dorna don't manage to destroy motogp he will quite likely end up with a factory yamaha ride in motogp anyway if he is good enough, which he may well be.

What's all this ..... about Troy's wife "letting" him race? Big paycheck - little risk - she'd be nuts to "put her foot down", and I doubt that she is...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mick D @ Jan 28 2009, 01:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What's all this ..... about Troy's wife "letting" him race? Big paycheck - little risk - she'd be nuts to "put her foot down", and I doubt that she is...
I've heard she doesn't like Troy racing. He made some sort of comment about how if he ever returned to racing he'd be divorced.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Jan 29 2009, 02:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I've heard she doesn't like Troy racing. He made some sort of comment about how if he ever returned to racing he'd be divorced.
Yeah, I read that too, "Bayliss told friends in 2008 that he has reconsidered his retirement but joked that if he did continue to race "I'd probably get divorced." I just find it hard to believe that Troy would have been able to accomplish all that he has without support from his better half. She may be happier now that he has retired and is closer to the family but how could she not agree to this minor unretirement when the payoff is large, the time do do it is small and the risks are low?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mick D @ Jan 28 2009, 02:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, I read that too, "Bayliss told friends in 2008 that he has reconsidered his retirement but joked that if he did continue to race "I'd probably get divorced." I just find it hard to believe that Troy would have been able to accomplish all that he has without support from his better half. She may be happier now that he has retired and is closer to the family but how could she not agree to this minor unretirement when the payoff is large, the time do do it is small and the risks are low?
I think she probably would agree to let him race a round for $1 million. I would assume Ducati and the Flamini brothers aren't willing to pay $1 million for a one-off ride and they haven't found anyone else who would.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Jan 28 2009, 08:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think she probably would agree to let him race a round for $1 million. I would assume Ducati and the Flamini brothers aren't willing to pay $1 million for a one-off ride and they haven't found anyone else who would.
Ducati did happen to say that if Bayliss wanted to race they would put up the bike for him.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jan 27 2009, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Greedy? I don't get it Povol. Let see, Rossi makes what? 40-50 Mil and just got thrown Monster cash, and Bayliss, what does he make?

So Rossi wants to race Bayliss, who is out of the training and mindset to compete, and Bayliss is supposed to jump because Vale wants to prove something? ...., if Rossi was so interested in proving himself, he should have thought of this a couple years ago while Bayliss was engulfed in the racing mindset. What next, is Rossi gonna challenge Mick Doohan to a race? That’s a bit rich for him to ask Bayliss to back out of his retirement simply because discerning people realize what Bayliss has really accomplished, a truer test of rider among standard machines.
im interested how you came to this amount, i thought it was nearer 20-25 mil. im sure i read somewhere he gets 13 mil from Yamaha but could be wrong.

Bayliss has hardly been retired that long

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Jan 29 2009, 07:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ducati did happen to say that if Bayliss wanted to race they would put up the bike for him.
Which is why I'm led to believe that they, nor anyone else, is willing to pay Bayliss. Rossi has said he wants to race, Yamaha said they'd build him a bike, Ducati said they'd build Bayliss a bike, Bayliss said he'd race for $1.5 million and here we are with no duel. The only thing stopping this race is someone stepping up and paying Bayliss.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jan 30 2009, 03:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>im interested how you came to this amount, i thought it was nearer 20-25 mil. im sure i read somewhere he gets 13 mil from Yamaha but could be wrong.

Bayliss has hardly been retired that long
I read in 2005 or 2006 that he makes $20 million US a year from Yamaha alone. What currency are you using? Pounds? Euros? Something about 13 million looks familiar.

Forbes list of highest paid atheletes had him at 30 million.When he first signed with Yamaha,i read 17 million salary.Im assuming it is at least that and probably more since he re signed.The 20 million salary sounds about right and an extra 10 million endorsements.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jan 30 2009, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Forbes list of highest paid atheletes had him at 30 million.When he first signed with Yamaha,i read 17 million salary.Im assuming it is at least that and probably more since he re signed.The 20 million salary sounds about right and an extra 10 million endorsements.
And worth every penny, unlike the crusin caretaker

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jan 30 2009, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>And worth every penny, unlike the crusin caretaker
Blow me

Compared to what Nicky is paid by Ducati and Rossi by Yamaha,I would bet that percentage wise,Nick would be worth more to Ducati's bottom line in sales than Rossi will be to Yamaha.Considering Yamaha lost 467,000,000 last quarter alone,Rossi doesnt seem like much of a bargain.Now Dorna would be a different story.They could pay him an extra 20 mil on the side and it would be a bargain.

I'm sorry but someone who has done it all in his chosen sport on a worldwide stage cannot be compared to someone who has everything to prove, that's just a big joke.