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Ducati unveil 2010 MotoGP contender

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Ducati unveil 2010 MotoGP contender

By Matthew Birt -

MotoGP

13 January 2010 17:16

This is the bike Ducati hopes will end Yamaha’s recent domination of the MotoGP world championship in 2010.

The GP10 was officially rolled out at Ducati’s 2010 team launch at the spectacular Italian ski resort of Madonna di Campiglio today (Wednesday).

The biggest change to the new Desmosedici V4 is a revised firing order, with the 2010 Ducati featuring a Big Bang configuration.

Casey Stoner and Nicky Hayden have already tested the bike at the traditional post-season test session at Valencia back in early November.

Australian Stoner, who is seeking to end Valentino Rossi and Yamaha’s domination of the premier with the Italian triumphing in 2008 and ’09, talked about the GP10 and his early impressions after his Valencia debut.

Stoner and Hayden will be back on the GP10 when winter testing resumes on February 4 at the Sepang circuit in Malaysia.

Stoner, who has won 20 races in the 800cc era, said: “We changed the engine configuration to try and make the bike a bit easier off the bottom end and get a bit more traction and it was a big improvement.

"I hope it can help us at circuits where last year we were lacking a bit of grip. At the last test we got the carbon swingarm working again but we still have a lot of things to test before the first race.”

Stoner said it was still too early to properly gauge the potential of the new motor, particularly given the infancy of its development.

He added: “It is an undeveloped engine now. For the last three years all the manufacturers have had the same configuration and they’ve been able to develop the, engine.

"We’ve been developing one engine and now we’ve changed and that’s going to start a new development. I’m sure Filippo (Preziosi) and the guys will come up with something.

"We are losing a little bit with top speed but at Valencia I was coming out of the last corner a bit faster with the extra traction, so I actually ended with the same top speed.

"I don’t know whether we will lose or not. Maybe we will lose a little bit on the long straights but what we will gain in other areas.

"Where it is more driveable we should be able to make the bike a lot easier to handle.”

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Ducati boss talks 2010 MotoGP challenger

By Matthew Birt -

MotoGP

13 January 2010 17:25

Ducati race boss Claudio Domenicali has given some insight into the significant changes made to the Bologna factory’s new GP10 MotoGP challenger.

The new bike was officially unveiled today at Ducati’s annual team launch at the Madonna di Campiglio ski resort, with Casey Stoner in particular hoping he can end the recent domination enjoyed by Yamaha’s YZR-M1 machine.

Domenicali first gave his views on the challenge of engine durability for the forthcoming season.

To save costs, a rider can only use six engines for the 18-round world championship, with one motor now having to last for three races.

The new regulations created a major conundrum for MotoGP engineers in how to make an engine last longer without sacrificing crucial performance.

Domenicali said: “To go almost 2,000 kilometres with every motor, with a motor that goes over 19,000 rpm isn’t a simple a assignment.

"Filippo (Preziosi) and his boys had big challenges in this area, and I’d say that with time, we’ll start the races with something that’s radically changed from before.

"All of the principal parts were redesigned—pistons, rods, crankshaft, the basics. It’s a motor with which our main objective was to minimise the loss of power to increase durability.

"It was a change that will be very useful and interesting, also because normally in racing, durability isn’t the principal objective.

“Perhaps this new objective has enabled us to perform a series of experimentations that will also be interesting for the new production motors that we’re developing, because at this point, they become almost comparable.

"For a production motor, 2,000 kilometres of track use is a severe challenge, so we start to think that the race motor durability is comparable with production motors. This is also a very interesting point.”

Another big challenge for Ducati’s technical experts was to try and make the Desmosedici more user friendly, less aggressive and easier to ride.

Only Aussie Stoner has enjoyed any significant success for Ducati, including his stunning domination of the premier class in 2007 when he romped to the inaugural 800cc series with ease.

In order to make it easier for Stoner to continue his impressive form and enable other Ducati rider’s like Nicky Hayden and Mika Kallio to get closer to the top six on a consistent basis, Ducati will campaign a radically revised engine in 2010.

The V4 motor will feature a Big Bang firing order instead of the Screamer version Ducati has previously campaigned in the 800cc era, Domenicali added: “The second big news isn’t related to the rules, but to our attempt to make the bike more rideable.

"This has to do with the firing order. We have a motor that, since the switch to 800s, utilised a Screamer setup.

"This has permitted us to have maximum power, which was very important and was probably fundamental with the results that we’ve had in 2007, 2008 and 2009.

"But at a certain point, we began to wonder whether it could be worthwhile to re-test a way that we’d already followed in the past.

"The last 1000cc motors that we made in 2005 and 2006 used a big-bang firing order, and this gave us important rideability.

"We re-tested that way, first trying it on the dyno, then with Vittoriano Guareschi in his previous role as test rider, and then with Nicky and Casey. We think we have a bike for 2010 with better traction, and that therefore makes it easier for us to find a good setup.

"Perhaps it’s best to ask Nicky and Casey what “easier” means in this case, but it’s part of the work to in some way increase the ability of the bike to adapt to different tracks and have a more repeatable setup.”

Ducati’s alterations for 2010 aren’t just concentrated on engine durability and a smoother engine to help with traction.

The chassis had been modified too and Domenicali added: “Another part of the work was dedicated to the chassis.

"In the pursuit of ease of use, we’ve worked to eliminate the bike’s squatting, which is why the entire rear portion of the bike was redesigned.

"This bike has a rear structure that carries the rider—which we call the seat support—and that also supports the swingarm.

"That part was redesigned to have six mounting points instead of four, and this makes the bike more rigid in some way, and guarantees a better rideability and improved rigidity.

"With respect to the bike we introduced last year, this bike is also aesthetically different because of the redesigned fairing, but we already saw that at Estoril.

"At Estoril, we used a different fairing, and some different components—because we made a new package at mid-season.

"This fairing is less sensitive to lateral wind, and also makes the bike more manoeuvrable, and this was retained for the GP10.

"This package, in addition to a series of minor modifications to the electronics represents the improvement.

"We have a group of over 100 people who work continuously on the improvement of the bike, so the principal modifications are the indicators, but in reality, following the riders’ input, we try to continuously adapt and improve the bike.”

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looks raw solid and straight to the point
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goatboy @ Jan 13 2010, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Anyone got a 2009 comparison pic please?
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post edited for 09/10 pics
 
oops. I'm not sure i like the blue stickers, but other than that it looks awesome as usual.
 
I was pissed off when I read this - no longer will it sound like the apocalyptic emissary from hell
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I hate big bang. The M1 sounds like a road bike
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Don't much care for the new lines - but I'm hoping their ugliness is a
sign of utilitarian improvement - which in the end will make it beautiful
in everyone's (except Rossiboppers) eyes.

Funny when you think of it. Looking back at the some of the 500cc bikes
over the last 8 or so years of the era - and some of bikes looked
so boxy, exuding a very crude Nascar-ish esthetic - but were deadly fast.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pigeon @ Jan 13 2010, 10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>8758:desmo_gp9_temp.jpg]

Well at least to the naked eye, but what about those with x-ray vision. Hey Babel, tell us, what's really under the hood?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>"Where it is more driveable we should be able to make the bike a lot easier to handle.” Casey

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>...following the riders’ input, we try to continuously adapt and improve the bike.” Claudio

I have a curious question. Since so much noise has been made by Rossi regarding his courting the Italian manufacture, if in the unlikely event he did make a switch, would his fans, in particular, those who support him trying to eliminate Lorenzo becasue as they put it, he is unjustly benefiting from Vale's development; will they also be angry Rossi may benefit from Casey & Nicky's development of said machine? Just curious...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jan 14 2010, 08:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well at least to the naked eye, but what about those with x-ray vision. Hey Babel, tell us, what's really under the hood?
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Babel and his new offsider ( PTK50 ) have developed new superpowers that far surpass the old mere Xray vision!!


They now have the power to read the software just from that picture!!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mumu37 @ Jan 14 2010, 01:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Have they dropped Shell as a sponsor? Don't seem to find any logos in the new bike
Look again you will find one mate.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mumu37 @ Jan 14 2010, 01:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Have they dropped Shell as a sponsor? Don't seem to find any logos in the new bike


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (inam @ Jan 14 2010, 03:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Look again you will find one mate.

its early yes i not been up long
yeah a shell logo on the 09 bike but i cant see one on the 10 bike.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jan 13 2010, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I have a curious question. Since so much noise has been made by Rossi regarding his courting the Italian manufacture, if in the unlikely event he did make a switch, would his fans, in particular, those who support him trying to eliminate Lorenzo becasue as they put it, he is unjustly benefiting from Vale's development; will they also be angry Rossi may benefit from Casey & Nicky's development of said machine? Just curious...
Cutting though your new trolling scheme you are at least close to an interesting question.
I suspect that development influence is one of the major factors that could block a transfer to Ducati.
As long as Stoner is there and are as strong as he is it's hard not to listen to him and Rossi being Rossi will probably not accept to ride "Stoner's" bike but demand a close to unlimitied budget for changes over the off season. It would not be enough to have his own factory team, he would demand the possibilty to get just about any change requests done. Even then he would be suspicious reagrding Ducati and their will to follow up.
If Stoner should jump ship that is automatically solved as Hayden is of very little relevance in that regard.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Jan 14 2010, 10:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Cutting though your new trolling scheme you are at least close to an interesting question.
I suspect that development influence is one of the major factors that could block a transfer to Ducati.
As long as Stoner is there and are as strong as he is it's hard not to listen to him and Rossi being Rossi will probably not accept to ride "Stoner's" bike but demand a close to unlimitied budget for changes over the off season. It would not be enough to have his own factory team, he would demand the possibilty to get just about any change requests done. Even then he would be suspicious reagrding Ducati and their will to follow up.
If Stoner should jump ship that is automatically solved as Hayden is of very little relevance in that regard.
At the risk of being accused of being diplomatic I see conflicting questions for rossi and jb concerning the extant engineering culture at ducati which rossi himself has previously seen as being incompatible with their approach vs whether only marlboro is in a position to fund such an approach in a post-gfc world. Marlboro's presumed need for instant success would not I imagine worry valentino.
 
The most stupid question ever heart. This can only come from the jealous fan
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Are people angry about the fact that you look like your father??
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jan 13 2010, 09:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well at least to the naked eye, but what about those with x-ray vision. Hey Babel, tell us, what's really under the hood?
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I have a curious question. Since so much noise has been made by Rossi regarding his courting the Italian manufacture, if in the unlikely event he did make a switch, would his fans, in particular, those who support him trying to eliminate Lorenzo becasue as they put it, he is unjustly benefiting from Vale's development; will they also be angry Rossi may benefit from Casey & Nicky's development of said machine? Just curious...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nghiemlong @ Jan 14 2010, 08:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The most stupid question ever heart. This can only come from the jealous fan
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Your response, as all of them do, exposes the type of fan you are, but regardless I still aim to be nice to Rossi-boppers.
 
I started watching MotoGP in 1997, but I only turn into Rossi fan just 4 years ago, in the middle of 2005. I dont care what's your definition of "bopper", but as you hate Rossi, I know you've never been happy in 10 years long.
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/ In contrast, most MotoGP fans in the world are being Happy
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jan 14 2010, 05:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Your response, as all of them do, exposes the type of fan you are, but regardless I still aim to be nice to Rossi-boppers.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nghiemlong @ Jan 14 2010, 09:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>....bla bla bla

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jan 14 2010, 08:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Your response, as all of them do, exposes the type of fan you are...

Don't fight it. You just can't help it.
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But, I understand...I will be gentle.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Jan 13 2010, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I was pissed off when I read this - no longer will it sound like the apocalyptic emissary from hell
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I hate big bang. <span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%The M1 sounds like a road bike
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i love that menacing howl of the M1.
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