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Ducati may run a mix of Bridgestone and Michelin

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From Road Racing World September 2008; MotoGP Notes by Mat Oxley

<span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%Michelin May Run A Mix of Bridgestone and Ducati in 2009

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Ducati may run its two different MotoGP teams on different tires next season. The Italian factory believes that having all its riders on the same tires can lead to difficultires, as seen this year, with one rider excelling with the package while the others struggle. So Ducati officials are planning to run the factory Marlboro backed outfit on Bridgestone tires with the Alice team presumably on Michelins. Ducati MotoGP boss Livio Suppo believes that Casey Stoner's astonishing pace is having a detrimental psychological effect on his fellow GP08 riders. Unable to get close to the Aussie's pace, Suppo says they're giving up. He cites Yamaha's current situation as a positive, with the factory's fastest rider on one type of tires and its other riders on a rival brand scoring better than expected results.

"The problem we have now is crazy but it is like this - having such a strong rider becomes a problem for the others," said Suppo in Germany. "This is why we are thinking next year to run two bikes with Bridgestone and two bikes with different tires. Look at Yamaha, they have put their strongest rider on different tires and the other three riders are doing better than expected. That way there is no direct comparison with a super strong rider. I'm pretty sure that if everything goes OK that we can put two young guns on different tires next year."

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Keep in mind this was right after Sachsenring but way before the disaster at Laguna and Brno. It is also at least 1 month before the riders safety meeting, where the riders allegedly requested a control tire.

Ducati voluntarily chucking the tire brand that has won them a championship? Less than a year ago you couldn't pry a set of tires from Mr. Bridgestone's cold dead hands, now Ducati are voluntarily switching?! Suppo making perhaps the weakest argument any team director has ever made.

This makes no sense at all. Also notice Suppo never said Michelins.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mylexicon @ Sep 6 2008, 04:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>From Road Racing World September 2008; MotoGP Notes by Mat Oxley

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Sep 6 2008, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Fraudian slip or intentional
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i reckon if they did mix they would run stoner on stones and hayboy on michilins and maybe the same for the alice team.
 
I think if Pedrosa goes well on the bridgestones then next year will become a one tyre series.
Sad but true.
 
Even though it was back then. I would bet Honda has something to do with it. Not just the HRC side, but the corporate auto giant. This is how I see it starting last year.

HRC to Bridgestone
We need you to supply us with tires next year.

Bridgestone to HRC
Thats not possible! We are already suppling all that we can.

HRC to Bridgestone
Oh really?? We will see about that.....

HRC to Honda Motor Corporation
Bridgestone wont supply us with tires for the repsol team.

Honda Motor Corporation to HRC
Oh really?? We will see about that.....

Honda Motor Corporation to Bridgestone
I hear you choose NOT to supply our HRC repsol team with tires. How important is your WORLD account to our automotive division??

Bridgestone to Honda Motor Corporation
Well all four Ducatis are running bridgestones. We can break the news to them, that the Alice team need to look elsewhere for tires.

Honda Motor Corporation to Bridgestone.
Good...................... We knew you would see it our way.







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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (evo9 @ Sep 7 2008, 03:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Even though it was back then. I would bet Honda has something to do with it. Not just the HRC side, but the corporate auto giant. This is how I see it starting last year.

HRC to Bridgestone
We need you to supply us with tires next year.

Bridgestone to HRC
Thats not possible! We are already suppling all that we can.

HRC to Bridgestone
Oh really?? We will see about that.....

HRC to Honda Motor Corporation
Bridgestone wont supply us with tires for the repsol team.

Honda Motor Corporation to HRC
Oh really?? We will see about that.....

Honda Motor Corporation to Bridgestone
I hear you choose NOT to supply our HRC repsol team with tires. How important is your WORLD account to our automotive division??

Bridgestone to Honda Motor Corporation
Well all four Ducatis are running bridgestones. We can break the news to them, that the Alice team need to look elsewhere for tires.

Honda Motor Corporation to Bridgestone.
Good...................... We knew you would see it our way.







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more than likely
 
Sorry Lex, can't follow you with this one. Every Ducati will have Bridgestones in 2009, with the exception of possibly Gibernau.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Sep 7 2008, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sorry Lex, can't follow you with this one. Every Ducati will have Bridgestones in 2009, with the exception of possibly Gibernau.
even hayden ? i thought he was one of there main spokesmen.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Sep 7 2008, 04:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>even hayden ? i thought he was one of there main spokesmen.
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thats just marketing....cashing in on a world champ who just happens to use michelins...
hayden IMO is not a big cog in the michelin machine, as he rides like not many other michelin men...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigAl @ Sep 7 2008, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>thats just marketing....cashing in on a world champ who just happens to use michelins...
hayden IMO is not a big cog in the michelin machine, as he rides like not many other michelin men...
You beat me to the punch on this one. It is all about using the champ. See everyone the champ uses our tires so you should to. Same with oakley, tissot, red bull, etc.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Sep 7 2008, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You beat me to the punch on this one. It is all about using the champ. See everyone the champ uses our tires so you should to. Same with oakley, tissot, red bull, etc.
only time will tell. if haydens is riding for ducati with stones then your right, if he is with ducati and michilins then your wrong, but if there on a spec/control tyre next season it wont matter
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Sep 7 2008, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>only time will tell. if haydens is riding for ducati with stones then your right, if he is with ducati and michilins then your wrong, but if there on a spec/control tyre next season it wont matter
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Who ever wins the title will be in various marketing ads cause he is the champ. Of course a large bit of the riders are in ads and such but for TV commercials in the U.S. we have only a few with Hopper, Hayden that I have seen. But all the companies want to say they are champion cause the champ rider uses the poduct.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Sep 7 2008, 05:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Who ever wins the title will be in various marketing ads cause he is the champ. Of course a large bit of the riders are in ads and such but for TV commercials in the U.S. we have only a few with Hopper, Hayden that I have seen. But all the companies want to say they are champion cause the champ rider uses the poduct.
do you think i dont know that ? geeze ive followed the sport for long enough
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all im saying is i thought his relationship with them was a little more than that, like personal sponsor.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Sep 7 2008, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>do you think i dont know that ? geeze ive followed the sport for long enough
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all im saying is i thought his relationship with them was a little more than that, like personal sponsor.
yeah I know you know ....! It is funny how long hayden has had the relationship with shitelin and still says they are working hard and they will do their best to win.