Dorna to rescue MotoGP grid issue

Dorna to rescue MotoGP grid issue

Spanish organiser steps in with rescue package to support shrinking grid



Posted: 18 October 2010

by Visordown News DORNA HAVE LAUNCHED a rescue mission to combat the ever shrinking MotoGP grid offering a financial life-line to the fledgling Pramac Ducati team.



The main area of the plan is cover the loss made by Suzuki dropping it's team to one rider for next season. With a helping hand from the Spanish organising body, the Ducati satellite team will receive a cash injection but with the stipulation to return Moto2 Champion Toni Elias to the premier class.



Pramac had originally been involved in negotiations with German Superbike rider Max Neukirchner, with a big-money sponsorship package involved. But plans fell through, and the team had decided to run only one rider next year – the newly contracted Capirossi - until now.



One rider not linked to the plans is Aleix Espargaro. The Spanish rookie is expected to move to a top seat in Moto2, with assistance from Dorna.



The decision to run a break-away factory Honda team has been quashed with news leaking in Spain that Repsol are to up their budget to 15-million Euros, to support the three-rider factory Honda team. This potentially saves another grid place.



The deal relieves pressure from Gresini's San Carlo outfit from keeping a seat clear for Dovizioso on a factory bike. It is now expected that Hiro Aoyama will step in join his former 250 championship rival; his current Interwetten team is not contesting the class next year.







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Damn, thats the last thing our sport need's. Just think of all the close passing and racing a larger grid will cause.

Pigeon said:

Dorna to rescue MotoGP grid issue

Spanish organiser steps in with rescue package to support shrinking grid



Posted: 18 October 2010

by Visordown News

In 2008 Toni Elias rode the Alice Ducati scoring two podium finishes​

DORNA HAVE LAUNCHED a rescue mission to combat the ever shrinking MotoGP grid offering a financial life-line to the fledgling Pramac Ducati team.



The main area of the plan is cover the loss made by Suzuki dropping it's team to one rider for next season. With a helping hand from the Spanish organising body, the Ducati satellite team will receive a cash injection but with the stipulation to return Moto2 Champion Toni Elias to the premier class.



Pramac had originally been involved in negotiations with German Superbike rider Max Neukirchner, with a big-money sponsorship package involved. But plans fell through, and the team had decided to run only one rider next year – the newly contracted Capirossi - until now.



One rider not linked to the plans is Aleix Espargaro. The Spanish rookie is expected to move to a top seat in Moto2, with assistance from Dorna.



The decision to run a break-away factory Honda team has been quashed with news leaking in Spain that Repsol are to up their budget to 15-million Euros, to support the three-rider factory Honda team. This potentially saves another grid place.



The deal relieves pressure from Gresini's San Carlo outfit from keeping a seat clear for Dovizioso on a factory bike. It is now expected that Hiro Aoyama will step in join his former 250 championship rival; his current Interwetten team is not contesting the class next year.







Read more: http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-racing-news-moto-gp/dorna-to-rescue-motogp-grid-issue/14776.html#ixzz12japQB14

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Is that supposed to say up it by 15 million Euro's, or is the up to correct. It seems like i remember back in 08, when Honda was talking about dropping out of GP, figures of 20-30 million per team were being kicked about. Running 3 factory efforts on a 20 million dollar budget doesnt sound right,

povol said:

Is that supposed to say up it by 15 million Euro's, or is the up to correct. It seems like i remember back in 08, when Honda was talking about dropping out of GP, figures of 20-30 million per team were being kicked about. Running 3 factory efforts on a 20 million dollar budget doesnt sound right,

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It all sounds like band aid - the series is very sick. We have 5 or 6 bikes in race number 1 going for the podium and then some others riding round behind them. If we're lucky we see the occasional fight, but in the main it's a procession. The cost must come down - reduce electronics, lighten up on the fuel rules, cut the crap with # engine restrictions, # of cylinders should be open. Anything - within reason - to get at least 20 bikes on the grid. Either that or they all go to WSBK.

povol said:

Is that supposed to say up it by 15 million Euro's, or is the up to correct. It seems like i remember back in 08, when Honda was talking about dropping out of GP, figures of 20-30 million per team were being kicked about. Running 3 factory efforts on a 20 million dollar budget doesnt sound right,

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Repsol have cut their contribution over the years, down to about 10 million a year. Boosting it to 15 million would just about cover the wage bill for their three riders. The other 40 million comes out of Honda's pockets.

Sounds like the series is in trouble and a Winter of discontent looms

Kropotkin said:

Repsol have cut their contribution over the years, down to about 10 million a year. Boosting it to 15 million would just about cover the wage bill for their three riders. The other 40 million comes out of Honda's pockets.

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At one point not long ago, it was rumored that since Repsol covered the lions share of the cost to run the factory team, is what kept Honda from dropping out all together. Was that a smoke screen to appease share holders who were calling for cuts. 15 million Euro is nothing to sneeze at, and im sure Honda is grateful for the contribution, but compared to the other factory teams, how does 5 million Euro per bike stack up to say Marlboro or Fiat's sponsorship.

Pigeon said:

One rider not linked to the plans is Aleix Espargaro. The Spanish rookie is expected to move to a top seat in Moto2, with assistance from Dorna.

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Any1 else feel like he deserves another year in Motogp to prove himself??



Anyway, you know a series is in trouble when people are receiving handouts just to say in and race.

chopperman said:

Damn, thats the last thing our sport need's. Just think of all the close passing and racing a larger grid will cause.

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I actually thought the oppisite Rog, more back markers being lapped with lower quality riders and bikes.

L8Braker said:

I actually thought the oppisite Rog, more back markers being lapped with lower quality riders and bikes.

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excellent mate

Ngads said:

Any1 else feel like he deserves another year in Motogp to prove himself??



Anyway, you know a series is in trouble when people are receiving handouts just to say in and race.

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Probably yes, but on the equipment that a 2nd tier satellite rider plays with, all he can prove is that he can make it thru a season alive. Its got to the point where deserves has nothing to do with it. Who will ride on the cheap, and who helps bring in the most sponsorship means more than developing riders. They are as interchangeable as the tires on the bike.

povol said:

Probably yes, but on the equipment that a 2nd tier satellite rider plays with, all he can prove is that he can make it thru a season alive. Its got to the point where deserves has nothing to do with it. Who will ride on the cheap, and who helps bring in the most sponsorship means more than developing riders. They are as interchangeable as the tires on the bike.

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Good point...... good example of that ->> Gabor Talmacsi

Ngads said:

Good point...... good example of that ->> Gabor Talmacsi

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And Karel Abraham. Does a rider who sits 15th in Moto2 deserve a ride in Moto Gp. Of course not. But his daddy owns a team and has more money than a show dog can jump over, so lets go GP racing boys.. Mega rich International playboys get rides while racers get ...... Starting to sound like Indy car racing.

povol said:

At one point not long ago, it was rumored that since Repsol covered the lions share of the cost to run the factory team, is what kept Honda from dropping out all together. Was that a smoke screen to appease share holders who were calling for cuts. 15 million Euro is nothing to sneeze at, and im sure Honda is grateful for the contribution, but compared to the other factory teams, how does 5 million Euro per bike stack up to say Marlboro or Fiat's sponsorship.

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About the same as Fiat, about a third of what Marlboro pay, about ten times what Rizla pay.

The only solution is MANY of these...











Possibly already next year...!

J4rn0 said:

The only solution is MANY of these...

Possibly already next year...!

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Do tell, what is this?

L8Braker said:

Do tell, what is this?

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Suter "Moto1" prototype (actually the second or latest version).

BMW 1000cc SBK engine on a MotoGP prototype chassis. The kind of bikes that are expected to race along with the "real" factory 1000cc prototypes in 2012.

I'd say, let them run already in 2011, against the 800...

Cool, I say bring them on now! Let them test after Valencia race.

J4rn0 said:

The only solution is MANY of these...

Possibly already next year...!

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That is not the solution. That's World Super Superbike.



The solution is ringing up Ilmor, Oral, Cosworth, and all of the other specialty engine manufacturers, and cutting deals with them for prototype engine supply @ 1000cc and 81mm. Suter can build his bike around a proper prototype lump, and IRTA have more options not just satellite MotoGP bikes. Then abolish the fuel rules no matter what the MSMA say.



That will sustain the sport until they can figure out how to ditch bore restrictions and electronic rider aids. They might look into ridding the sport of displacement rules altogether.

mylexicon said:

That is not the solution. That's World Super Superbike.



The solution is ringing up Ilmor, Oral, Cosworth, and all of the other specialty engine manufacturers, and cutting deals with them for prototype engine supply @ 1000cc and 81mm. Suter can build his bike around a proper prototype lump, and IRTA have more options not just satellite MotoGP bikes. Then abolish the fuel rules no matter what the MSMA say.



That will sustain the sport until they can figure out how to ditch bore restrictions and electronic rider aids. They might look into ridding the sport of displacement rules altogether.

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Agree. But It would take too long now, and be too expensive, to solve the immediate problem. the two things can co-exist. anyway...

Let the tuned SBK engines race now with 24 liters against the 21 (or hopefully 22) of the full factory bikes.