Ding Ding - Round 1 Rossi

Rossi Pole, Bayliss second.

Bayliss wants to stick his fingers up to everyone. Loris wants to beat Bayliss. Rossi wants a win and title. Hayden wants title and win. Dani well wants home win! Toni wants to prove his win was real and home win. Mel wants to beat Tony.

What a Finish to the season.

Aye !! Its going to be a great race its not been this close in years. Can't wait for tommorow !!

I finally got a group together to watch the race, drink beer and argue the attributes of our personal favorite rider. I am Rossi, 3 guys are Hayden, 1 guy is Roberts. It is going to be a real fight at home and in Spain.

Some wifes want to join us but I say, "this is not a girl or guy thing but a MotoGP fan think, and if you do not have anything to offer in MotoGP keep you ... away". My wife ....... when she sits in the sun at Laguna Seca so she must keep her ... away from our MotoGP party.

I'm proud of Rossi for getting the pole but i'm even more pleased with Troy Bayliss getting 2nd on the Ducati! He's definately out there to prove a point this weekend, good luck to him and Rossi of course!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BruceLee @ Oct 28 2006, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>My wife ....... when she sits in the sun at Laguna Seca so she must keep her ... away from our MotoGP party.

LOL!!!!!!!!!

I've been asked to a couple of places to watch the race, but frankly I'd probably only embarrass myself. I get up and pace around the room for the last five laps. I'd get myself thrown out and would have to watch the finish peeping in through a window or something. Nahhh...I'll be staying home with my big screen and lots of lozenges.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BruceLee @ Oct 28 2006, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Some wifes want to join us but I say, "this is not a girl or guy thing but a MotoGP fan think, and if you do not have anything to offer in MotoGP keep you ... away". My wife ....... when she sits in the sun at Laguna Seca so she must keep her ... away from our MotoGP party.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mbracing @ Oct 28 2006, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rossi Pole, Bayliss second.

Bayliss wants to stick his fingers up to everyone. Loris wants to beat Bayliss. Rossi wants a win and title. Hayden wants title and win. Dani well wants home win! Toni wants to prove his win was real and home win. Mel wants to beat Tony.

What a Finish to the season.



Sorry but I gotta disagree with part of your statement, Hayden doesnt want title and win, he wants title and a nice steady 5th place, if he wanted more , he'd be finishing up front more. Can we all please forget the last race, and admit that Hayden has lost the title lead coz he cant beat Rossi head to head. 2 wins and 1 DNF does not make you a champion. Sorry Nicky, I do like you, but if you do win the title, you will be as memorable as Franco (who) Uncini

Vale, do the damage mate!

Pete

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mbracing @ Oct 28 2006, 08:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rossi Pole, Bayliss second.

Bayliss wants to stick his fingers up to everyone. Loris wants to beat Bayliss. Rossi wants a win and title. Hayden wants title and win. Dani well wants home win! Toni wants to prove his win was real and home win. Mel wants to beat Tony.

What a Finish to the season.


and people say it's been a SO SO SEASON!!

Here's how I see it at the start..

Troy and Loris off the line! A good start for both the Ducatis, Pedrosa gets a good start as well, Rossi gets stuffed into 5th behind Nakano... into turn 1, Loris takes the whole shot, Rossi overtakes Shinya ... Pedrosa hot on Troy's wheels... where's Hayden? I dunno Mick... clutch problems?

Bottom line... HRC... give Nicky the best clutch you got!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Oct 29 2006, 08:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sorry but I gotta disagree with part of your statement, Hayden doesnt want title and win, he wants title and a nice steady 5th place, if he wanted more , he'd be finishing up front more. Can we all please forget the last race, and admit that Hayden has lost the title lead coz he cant beat Rossi head to head. 2 wins and 1 DNF does not make you a champion. Sorry Nicky, I do like you, but if you do win the title, you will be as memorable as Franco (who) Uncini

All riders want to win--isn't that obvious? But I'm pretty sure that they want world titles more. If Rossi was taken out on the first lap by... say De Puniet (wanting revenge for Le Mans ) and Hayden ended up in 5th place at the end of the race he'd be a worthy champion.

How do you think riders would like to look back on their careers? As multiple race winners like Mamola, or as champions like Lucchinelli and Uncini?

Consistency isn't a bad word, you know. Just ask Rossi. If Capirossi wins today leading from flag to flag, or Bayliss laps everyone three times, and the best Rossi can do is to finish second he will have won the championship by only winning one race in the second half of the season.

-sarcasm on-
That's pretty lame, right? Only one race win, when your main title rival has been having his well documented bike problems and an infamous DNF. Maybe Rossi doesn't deserve to be champion this year.
-sarcasm off-

Bottom line--whichever of the two come out on top they will be deserving champions after a great year of racing.

BTW, Uncini was a fine rider. He had to beat guys like Roberts and Sheene to win that title.

What's up with all this talk about "Who deserves the title?". They all deserve the title. Yes, even if was Cardoso, Hoffman, or Ellison were the ones battling for the title. Yeah it's unfortunate for Hayden to be where he's at in the standings compared to 3 months ago, but there are 17 other riders who would love to be in his place right now, even if it meant being taken out by their teammate at Estoril. So as for this season Rossi or Hayden deserve the title. Which is probably why they're the only two for the running.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BruceLee @ Oct 28 2006, 08:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Some wifes want to join us but I say, "this is not a girl or guy thing but a MotoGP fan think, and if you do not have anything to offer in MotoGP keep you ... away". My wife ....... when she sits in the sun at Laguna Seca so she must keep her ... away from our MotoGP party.That's unfortunate. My wife, on the other hand, has way better logic than some of the people in this forum. Yes, we have our differences but she actually has good reasoning to her arguments when it comes to MotoGP, WSBK, and AMA. And oh, yes she is an avid MotoGP and Melandri fan.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Oct 28 2006, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Sorry but I gotta disagree with part of your statement, Hayden doesnt want title and win, he wants title and a nice steady 5th place, if he wanted more , he'd be finishing up front more. Can we all please forget the last race, and admit that Hayden has lost the title lead coz he cant beat Rossi head to head. 2 wins and 1 DNF does not make you a champion. Sorry Nicky, I do like you, but if you do win the title, you will be as memorable as Franco (who) Uncini
Ofcourse he wants a win look at the situation he is in at the moment, he definatly needs a win, all riders want a win just because he isnt up there does not mean he doesnt want to win. Take your nonsense elsewhere

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pacman @ Oct 29 2006, 08:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ofcourse he wants a win look at the situation he is in at the moment, he definatly needs a win, all riders want a win just because he isnt up there does not mean he doesnt want to win. Take your nonsense elsewhere

Hey Pacman, It's totally ignorant to dismiss somebodies opinion as nonsense coz you dont like it. It's an open forum, if you dont agree thats cool but dont dismiss anyones comments as nonsense eh?

Thats how these things turn into slagging matches, and why people get fed up with them.


Bye the way, credit to Hayden for taking the title, at the end of the day, he racked up the most points, but I didn't see him winning the race today, or particularly looking like it. But hey, he stayed on and Rossi didnt. The point I was making was that I don't see Hayden as having the winning instinct of a Rossi, Doohan, Rainey or Roberts senior. Mick Doohan would have been dissapointed if he hadnt won the race by a half a lap today, title or not!

And finally, yep Uncini was a fine rider, but history remembers Sheene and Roberts as the guys of that era.

Roll on next year!!!!


Pete

You really can´t say whether or not Nicky had anything for Troy today. At the point Rossi had binned it (lap 4), Hayden was right on Bayliss´ rear and staying put. Had Rossi remained on two wheels then Nicky may have had a different strategy, it´s all speculation.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Oct 29 2006, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hey Pacman, It's totally ignorant to dismiss somebodies opinion as nonsense coz you dont like it. It's an open forum, if you dont agree thats cool but dont dismiss anyones comments as nonsense eh?

Thats how these things turn into slagging matches, and why people get fed up with them.
Bye the way, credit to Hayden for taking the title, at the end of the day, he racked up the most points, but I didn't see him winning the race today, or particularly looking like it. But hey, he stayed on and Rossi didnt. The point I was making was that I don't see Hayden as having the winning instinct of a Rossi, Doohan, Rainey or Roberts senior. Mick Doohan would have been dissapointed if he hadnt won the race by a half a lap today, title or not!

And finally, yep Uncini was a fine rider, but history remembers Sheene and Roberts as the guys of that era.

Roll on next year!!!!
Pete

During the race Nicky looked like he could of easily gone past Capa, his times showed that he was consistantly quicker than the 2 men in front of him until he layed of the pace. And about Hayden lacking the wining instinct, I think thats unfair. In the 2 races he's won, he has shown that he certainly can win.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Oct 29 2006, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hey Pacman, It's totally ignorant to dismiss somebodies opinion as nonsense coz you dont like it. It's an open forum, if you dont agree thats cool but dont dismiss anyones comments as nonsense eh?
So saying Nicky doesnt want to win is nonsense? In my eyes that is ridiculous, every rider wants to win a race, that is the main thing in racing, winning a race