Dani Pedrosa is a...

pedrosa is definately not useless. i don't particularly like him... or should i say like his controller the puig... but dani is only 1 of 4 riders capable of competing at the front. he does not give up & is for sure worthy & valuble in motogp. if i were a team owner in gp & i could have my choice of rider currently in gp, pedrosa would be my #3 choice.

Is there any point to this thread besides getting all the Dani haters together? I think we all get it, a lot of people at this forum just don't like the guy.

Not to be Mr. ....... Objective........but here's my observation from this weekend. Dani is a very small, shy dude who is fast as .... on a big scary crazy powerful bike, and he has heart. I'm not so sure the arrogant label is entirely correct. At the race, he was literally walking back into the door of the paddock and a group of us called out to him,........he stops going where he was going, turns around and comes back out to take pics with us and sign autographs. He had already done that and was going to leave yet he came back out for a group of 5 screaming idiots......not what I would label as arrogant. Next, he sets pole (no small feat in this league), then he crashes, as did "The Doctor" who was not leading at the time, picks up his bike and sets the fastest laps of the field (on a crashed bike) to come in 10th place. "Useless"......I disagree. I think he's talented as .... and deserves a bit more credit and respect, especially since 99% of us couldn't ride a bike like him even in our dreams. So sit back, and enjoy the fun of shitting on the little guy all you want; I realize I'm not going to convince you to change your mind, I'm just voicing my opinion from a very limited personal experience.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GatorDuc @ Sep 1 2009, 09:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Not to be Mr. ....... Objective........but here's my observation from this weekend. Dani is a very small, shy dude who is fast as .... on a big scary crazy powerful bike, and he has heart. I'm not so sure the arrogant label is entirely correct. At the race, he was literally walking back into the door of the paddock and a group of us called out to him,........he stops going where he was going, turns around and comes back out to take pics with us and sign autographs. He had already done that and was going to leave yet he came back out for a group of 5 screaming idiots......not what I would label as arrogant. Next, he sets pole (no small feat in this league), then he crashes, as did "The Doctor" who was not leading at the time, picks up his bike and sets the fastest laps of the field (on a crashed bike) to come in 10th place. "Useless"......I disagree. I think he's talented as .... and deserves a bit more credit and respect, especially since 99% of us couldn't ride a bike like him even in our dreams. So sit back, and enjoy the fun of shitting on the little guy all you want; I realize I'm not going to convince you to change your mind, I'm just voicing my opinion from a very limited personal experience.
Very good observations... seems more mature this year... Hopefully less Puigified...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GatorDuc @ Aug 31 2009, 09:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Not to be Mr. ....... Objective........but here's my observation from this weekend. Dani is a very small, shy dude who is fast as .... on a big scary crazy powerful bike, and he has heart. I'm not so sure the arrogant label is entirely correct. At the race, he was literally walking back into the door of the paddock and a group of us called out to him,........he stops going where he was going, turns around and comes back out to take pics with us and sign autographs. He had already done that and was going to leave yet he came back out for a group of 5 screaming idiots......not what I would label as arrogant. Next, he sets pole (no small feat in this league), then he crashes, as did "The Doctor" who was not leading at the time, picks up his bike and sets the fastest laps of the field (on a crashed bike) to come in 10th place. "Useless"......I disagree. I think he's talented as .... and deserves a bit more credit and respect, especially since 99% of us couldn't ride a bike like him even in our dreams. So sit back, and enjoy the fun of shitting on the little guy all you want; I realize I'm not going to convince you to change your mind, I'm just voicing my opinion from a very limited personal experience.
Nice post Gator. Good word choice, Mick. Mature. I'm not sure if I'll ever consider myself a fan of his, but the days of strongly disliking him have passed. I'm not sure I ever really understood the arrogant label, I think that might be a bit off the mark. I think he had a strong sense of entitlement by the time he reached the Repsol garage, if that's much of a difference. Between his years of prominence and dominance in the Movistar Cup, 125s and 250s and Honda continually promising him premier class world championships, it's not hard to understand where that sense of entitlement comes from.

I think 2007 and 2008 were real wake up calls. The man he had soundly beaten regularly in 250s, Casey Stoner, utterly destroyed Pedrosa week in, week out. And the legend who was supposed to fade into the sunset (what other previous champion won another premier class championship after losing two on the trot?) came back and bagged another in 2008. I think those two years really forced Pedrosa to mature. It was either that or pout and watch him slowly move down the order and fade into oblivion.

He's worked quite hard this season, as evidence by Indy and more notably his efforts early this season riding so impressively while so noticeably injured. You can also see further development in the 212. I think Hayden did a very commendable job in 2008 getting the pneumo engine up to speed (obviously) but it was still quite a raw motorcycle. Pedrosa didn't like it. It no longer has the ragged speed that Hayden put into it, it's a motorcycle that responds to Pedrosa's inputs the way the M1 responds to Rossi. It's an ideal match (at least when I watch Pedrosa ride), and that's not something that can be chalked up to the engineers or test riders or Hayden's previous work. That's something that Pedrosa has put a lot of energy, hours and effort into and it won't be long before he really reaps the benefits of that.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GatorDuc @ Sep 1 2009, 10:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Not to be Mr. ....... Objective........but here's my observation from this weekend. Dani is a very small, shy dude who is fast as .... on a big scary crazy powerful bike, and he has heart. I'm not so sure the arrogant label is entirely correct. At the race, he was literally walking back into the door of the paddock and a group of us called out to him,........he stops going where he was going, turns around and comes back out to take pics with us and sign autographs. He had already done that and was going to leave yet he came back out for a group of 5 screaming idiots......not what I would label as arrogant. Next, he sets pole (no small feat in this league), then he crashes, as did "The Doctor" who was not leading at the time, picks up his bike and sets the fastest laps of the field (on a crashed bike) to come in 10th place. "Useless"......I disagree. I think he's talented as .... and deserves a bit more credit and respect, especially since 99% of us couldn't ride a bike like him even in our dreams. So sit back, and enjoy the fun of shitting on the little guy all you want; I realize I'm not going to convince you to change your mind, I'm just voicing my opinion from a very limited personal experience.

Nail on the ....... head.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Aug 31 2009, 06:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Dani has crashed 3 times, that's the same as Rossi and one less than Lorenzo.

J708 you can put me in your "users that support Dani" list.


but we dont worry about the facts on this forum....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (eltoro @ Sep 1 2009, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Is there any point to this thread besides getting all the Dani haters together? I think we all get it, a lot of people at this forum just don't like the guy.


stems from haydne being his teammate. and getting the blame for developing a bike for pedrosa instead of hayden

I will admit i'm not a fan of Pedrosa but I wouldnt go as far as saying I hated his guts. He's fast sure, but he seems to have a few weaknesses such as not being able to fight in a pack that always seem to seriously cripple his championship chances.

His main problem is his manager. Take him out of the equation and i'm sure his image in the public eye would change dramatically for the better.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Sep 1 2009, 12:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Nice post Gator. Good word choice, Mick. Mature. I'm not sure if I'll ever consider myself a fan of his, but the days of strongly disliking him have passed. I'm not sure I ever really understood the arrogant label, I think that might be a bit off the mark. I think he had a strong sense of entitlement by the time he reached the Repsol garage, if that's much of a difference. Between his years of prominence and dominance in the Movistar Cup, 125s and 250s and Honda continually promising him premier class world championships, it's not hard to understand where that sense of entitlement comes from.

I think 2007 and 2008 were real wake up calls. The man he had soundly beaten regularly in 250s, Casey Stoner, utterly destroyed Pedrosa week in, week out. And the legend who was supposed to fade into the sunset (what other previous champion won another premier class championship after losing two on the trot?) came back and bagged another in 2008. I think those two years really forced Pedrosa to mature. It was either that or pout and watch him slowly move down the order and fade into oblivion.

He's worked quite hard this season, as evidence by Indy and more notably his efforts early this season riding so impressively while so noticeably injured. You can also see further development in the 212. I think Hayden did a very commendable job in 2008 getting the pneumo engine up to speed (obviously) but it was still quite a raw motorcycle. Pedrosa didn't like it. It no longer has the ragged speed that Hayden put into it, it's a motorcycle that responds to Pedrosa's inputs the way the M1 responds to Rossi. It's an ideal match (at least when I watch Pedrosa ride), and that's not something that can be chalked up to the engineers or test riders or Hayden's previous work. That's something that Pedrosa has put a lot of energy, hours and effort into and it won't be long before he really reaps the benefits of that.

Austin, the quality of that post is the reason I really enjoy this forum, it would have taken me hours to research that kind of history. Great editorial based on history. Thanks.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GatorDuc @ Sep 1 2009, 09:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Austin, the quality of that post is the reason I really enjoy this forum, it would have taken me hours to research that kind of history. Great editorial based on history. Thanks.
Cheers, Gator.

If Dani only had longer legs maybe he would have been able to pick it up with his knee to avoid the crash. Dani's accident didn't look to be his fault.

Since Germany of last year it became apparent who Puig really is. Dani needs to loose him ASAP.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GatorDuc @ Sep 1 2009, 02:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Not to be Mr. ....... Objective........but here's my observation from this weekend. Dani is a very small, shy dude who is fast as .... on a big scary crazy powerful bike, and he has heart. I'm not so sure the arrogant label is entirely correct. At the race, he was literally walking back into the door of the paddock and a group of us called out to him,........he stops going where he was going, turns around and comes back out to take pics with us and sign autographs. He had already done that and was going to leave yet he came back out for a group of 5 screaming idiots......not what I would label as arrogant. Next, he sets pole (no small feat in this league), then he crashes, as did "The Doctor" who was not leading at the time, picks up his bike and sets the fastest laps of the field (on a crashed bike) to come in 10th place. "Useless"......I disagree. I think he's talented as .... and deserves a bit more credit and respect, especially since 99% of us couldn't ride a bike like him even in our dreams. So sit back, and enjoy the fun of shitting on the little guy all you want; I realize I'm not going to convince you to change your mind, I'm just voicing my opinion from a very limited personal experience.

My boy and I agree on this. I'm not going to spend much time elaborating because GatorDork has laid this all out very well. I ran into Dani in the paddock 3 different times this weekend and not once was he difficult, arrogant or otherwise unwelcoming. I was behind the camera for Jumkie's "finger photo" and just seconds before that Dani had just finished with a few fans, was INSIDE his pit doorway and came back out to greet us so that Jumkie could take his now famous photo.

I don't appreciate the "hate" to be honest. I have deep respect for all of these guys. They all work very hard, risk their lives and have an exceedingly small window of opportunity to make their dreams come true and we............??? know nothing of their struggles and possess none of their skills. I look forward to MotoGP every single weekend and hating one rider over another just seems counter productive to me. I'm sure I met and got autographs from just about the entire field this weekend and every single one of them (Kallio was the most stand offish) was a gentleman while some were outright enjoyable to be around (Dovi, Canepa, Hayden).

Dani was very fast, worked very hard and even though I'm a die hard Ducati/Hayden guy, I felt for him when he bined it. He could barely pick up his bike, and managed to consistently be the fastest guy on track while finishing 10th. It's hard to ague with that kind of resolve. He earned my respect........

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (levigarrett @ Sep 1 2009, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I don't appreciate the "hate" to be honest. I have deep respect for all of these guys. They all work very hard, risk their lives and have an exceedingly small window of opportunity to make their dreams come true and we............??? know nothing of their struggles and possess none of their skills. I look forward to MotoGP every single weekend and hating one rider over another just seems counter productive to me. I'm sure I met and got autographs from just about the entire field this weekend and every single one of them (Kallio was the most stand offish) was a gentleman while some were outright enjoyable to be around (Dovi, Canepa, Hayden).

take note people.... especially the haters. we all at one time or another have had harsh words or made fun of riders. a particular incident they were involved in or maybe they just aren't really well liked or whatever but we should always remeber what is said in the above statement. excellent levi!

Hey J708, are you the fat bald dude on the left, or the fat Elvis wannabe on the right.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GatorDuc @ Sep 1 2009, 12:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Not to be Mr. ....... Objective........but here's my observation from this weekend. Dani is a very small, shy dude who is fast as .... on a big scary crazy powerful bike, and he has heart. I'm not so sure the arrogant label is entirely correct. At the race, he was literally walking back into the door of the paddock and a group of us called out to him,........he stops going where he was going, turns around and comes back out to take pics with us and sign autographs. He had already done that and was going to leave yet he came back out for a group of 5 screaming idiots......not what I would label as arrogant. Next, he sets pole (no small feat in this league), then he crashes, as did "The Doctor" who was not leading at the time, picks up his bike and sets the fastest laps of the field (on a crashed bike) to come in 10th place. "Useless"......I disagree. I think he's talented as .... and deserves a bit more credit and respect, especially since 99% of us couldn't ride a bike like him even in our dreams. So sit back, and enjoy the fun of shitting on the little guy all you want; I realize I'm not going to convince you to change your mind, I'm just voicing my opinion from a very limited personal experience.

Excellent post Gator.
Agree 100%
Every one of the guys who make it to MotoGP should be admired, and particularly a guy the size of Dani. There are very few people in the world with the ability or balls to ride one of these bikes fast, and like him or not, Pedrosa is one of the best.

Man, did I open a can of ..... Anyway, thanks guys for voicing your opinion on why you love and respect Dani. At the time of me starting this post I was watching the race and was pretty pissed off at what had happened. At this moment I do not have any favorite riders in MotoGP this season. But I def want to see battles, specifically between JL and VR.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nuts @ Sep 2 2009, 11:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hey J708, are you the fat bald dude on the left, or the fat Elvis wannabe on the right.


they prob both suck each other off

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pinky @ Sep 2 2009, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>they prob both suck each other off
I don't think the photo was taken on one of those guided tours you've been researching.

Jesus, short memories! Dani is a complete ........ One little photo that he took with a spectator isn't gonna change my mind. Gator, Levi, & Austin, get a room.

Should I list all the reasonS why Dani is hated, it didn't come from thin air boys.

.... PEDROSA and all his new fans!