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Having read your epic posts Jum, I have to say a lot of what you said makes sense to me, should I be scared now?  :p


 


In a case like this, as others have said before, keeping his mouth shut and proving himself on the track will do him far more good. He is riding well, if he keeps doing that talent alone should keep him on a good ride. I know there are other considerations, mostly money it seems, but talent should speak loudest and Cal has plenty of it in my opinion.
 
michaelm
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One thing Stoner never did was disparage his  employer whilst contracted to them, as you say.


 


 


Well, thats because Casey was a ........ 


 


If he had a smidgen of self-respect and assertiveness... like this one Brit I know, well actually, I don't know him personally, nor do I know him intimately, but I did see his life story in a movie once.  A dude named Billy Wallace; turns out he wanted his social contract revoked so bad he ended up showing his testicles and getting all blue in the face to get it.  A bit like Cal Crutchclow actually.  Unlike Casey, who could have learned a thing or two about speaking out against one's employer.  In fact, I was drinking this Irish beer last night in honor of Billy Wallace, and his Braveheart.  


 


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They can take my job and give it to some Spanish ...., but they will never take my FREEDOM!
 

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Jumkie
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Perhaps I may need to take a mulligan on this one, but I failed to see the stellar insight in this above post beyond what I would evaluate as simply a decent and sobering reminder that these players are human. Yes, truly a sobering reprimand.  I say this sincerely.  We should all pause when offering our opinions.
 
Now what?  How long should we pause?  I mean, given that for the most part, WE present our opinions in such places as these, not because they are of any real importance (anybody who would think so would be rather stupid) but because we present them for the sake of presenting them, and a bit of self-importance.  I also find it ironic that you would reference a high-horse to open your post, and proceed in high-horsing.  I suppose that is rather convenient, eh?  No need for any elevation change.  
 
You didn’t say anything that I haven’t read before, that is when somebody decided they were above casting opinion (of course and then proceed in offering it) except you said it more eloquently.  Please, don’t be stung by my brash ways, but honestly, what do you expect on an internet forum where this space is solely dedicated to discussing, arguing, conversing, debating, chatting, praising, and thrashing every little unimportant thing about an unimportant sport by members who are irrelevant authorities (except for our resident exports of course).  No .... most of us don’t know the riders intimately, is that your litmus test for passing judgment on the things they say publicly!?  The daily routine of your life would be most interesting then, assuming this really is the way you live your life.  Most of us judge any manner of things and people within minutes of first impressions, I dare say seconds. The people here for the most part read every accessible printed material and watch every available video about these players.  Barring the odd member, like say MotoChick, we don’t exactly go around sleeping with our subjects, but for ..... sake, we know a lot about their careers.  And isn’t it this we are commenting on?  An interview made abundantly and spectacularly public?
 
Yet I suspect even the paddock insiders who do drink beers with eachother, compete against each other, probably even .... eachother’s girlfriends (at very least share a brolly dolly every now and then, at least I hope) talk and pass judgment as much .... (and praise) about eachtother as anybody here (yes, even without the full scope knowing or not knowing eachother intimately).  I could actually quote you some, as funny as some have gone public (which again is the domain we are commenting on here) for example: Mr. Burgess glibly declaring he could decode the mystery of a bike that an entire racing squadron of geniuses could not decipher, (perhaps they weren’t trying hard enough) here an “expert insider” made a judgment who’s judgment actually turned out to be “redundant”.   This is just one small example that came to mind, though I could quote you a plethora, as a one Valentino Rossi has provided many a “redundant” judgments (which I have keep particular track of).  I should hope you understand that supposed authority of the subject matter, intimidate or not, still makes for just as easy superfluous opinion.
 
 




 

 
 
This part of your post was for me the most disturbing (after I made out what you were actually trying to say) because this statement (while poorly made) is part of the justification being made here on this thread by some as to why it would be “ludicrous” for us to make any conclusions, opinions, or assessment on what a person states.  So then, if we don’t have the absolute ideas (or facts) behind the reasons somebody would say something ‘publically’, then we as consumers of such public statements have no possibility of reasonable assessment?  Breathtaking.  I wonder what your world is like?
 
Cal’s statements were clear enough.  And as such, a reasonable assessment could be made and opinions formulated.  We made differ on our assessments, ok, I can accept this, but no assessment at all?  That IS ludicrous.  If you can’t find it reasonable because you don’t know all the facts, then surely as you said, “there are some advantages to being an adult”
 


What happenned between Hector and myself is not some punchline for an internet forum. I was honest and forthcoming about our relationship and its not very nice to try to make me look like a fool. I dont appreciate your inference that I am some sort Band Aid girl that shags the entire paddock. If half of you guys on this forum had ...... it would most likely be wrapped around the riders dicks, your all so hung up on your hero worship.  


Hectors a great guy and a great rider who should get considerable more respect from the lot of you
 
MotoChick
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What happenned between Hector and myself is not some punchline for an internet forum. I was honest and forthcoming about our relationship and its not very nice to try to make me look like a fool. I dont appreciate your inference that I am some sort Band Aid girl that shags the entire paddock. If half of you guys on this forum had ...... it would most likely be wrapped around the riders dicks, your all so hung up on your hero worship.  


Hectors a great guy and a great rider who should get considerable more respect from the lot of you


Wait.  You're the chick that beat up Hector?  Hahahaha.
 
SuperShinya56
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Wait.  You're the chick that beat up Hector?  Hahahaha.
What would you know about women Super Shinya56?

If you were ever lucky enough to have one, she wouldnt even know it because all Asians have little boy dicks
 
MotoChick
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What would you know about women Super Shinya56?

If you were ever lucky enough to have one, she wouldnt even know it because all Asians have little boy dicks


Oooh...... this one is feisty.  I like.


 


Just give me a minute of your time, I'm sure you'll have a change of mind.  Just don't beat me up though, I mean..... not in that kind of way.  Hehehe.
 
MotoChick, on 04 Jun 2013 - 12:47, said:What would you know about women Super Shinya56?
If you were ever lucky enough to have one, she wouldnt even know it because all Asians have little boy dicks


<span style="font-size:8px;Hi Lyria Occasionally there are other females here but I dont think they last very long. How many times have these pigs thrown sexual innuendos your way.  <span style="font-size:8px;Being here as a female is a bit difficult when they all treat you as a ... object. I have been lurking on and off for a while because I enjoy the discussions but I dont care to post much because of all the chauvanistic ........ that hide behind the keyboard. <span style="font-size:8px;As I read through this thread I see my name written with some sexual reference <span style="font-size:8px;and I havnt even been here for a while.  
 
ὑπόκρισις
 
SuperShinya56
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Oooh...... this one is feisty.  I like.

 

Just give me a minute of your time, I'm sure you'll have a change of mind.  Just don't beat me up though, I mean..... not in that kind of way.  Hehehe.

That sounds great

We can get a little kinky. I'll bring some rope to tie you up and some dental floss to blindfold you
 
MotoChick
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That sounds great

We can get a little kinky. I'll bring some rope to tie you up and some dental floss to blindfold you


That's great !!  See you in my motorhome after Friday's practice session.
 
MotoChick
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That sounds great

We can get a little kinky. I'll bring some rope to tie you up and some dental floss to blindfold you


 


Dumb .... whinges about sexism, then draws on Andrew Dice Clay for her comedic efforts.
 
Or MC is one uping Supershit at his own dumb game. Why is it MC cant play and held to lofty srandard. Exactly how highbrow (no pun) would conversation be with SSh? She just took a dig at Asian boy, had me rolling actually. Floss? Haha u racist ....., but funny none the less. By my count MC 1 SStup 0
 
MotoChick
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What happenned between Hector and myself is not some punchline for an internet forum. I was honest and forthcoming about our relationship and its not very nice to try to make me look like a fool. I dont appreciate your inference that I am some sort Band Aid girl that shags the entire paddock. If half of you guys on this forum had ...... it would most likely be wrapped around the riders dicks, your all so hung up on your hero worship.  

Hectors a great guy and a great rider who should get considerable more respect from the lot of you


It's so nice to hear a sensible voice around here. Hector is a great rider and should certainly demand more respect. Problem here is, someone says something bad about Heccy ( as I like to call him ) and the rest just ' tow the line '
 
Jumkie
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Or MC is one uping Supershit at his own dumb game. Why is it MC cant play and held to lofty srandard. Exactly how highbrow (no pun) would conversation be with SSh? She just took a dig at Asian boy, had me rolling actually. Floss? Haha u racist ....., but funny none the less. By my count MC 1 SStup 0


 


That wasn't one of your better posts, so I don't know why it made me laugh.
 
BJ.C
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 Definitely sick of the Apple craze.. You UK boys should know.. It's all about Linux! ;)

 

Last time I looked, my Macbook was running unix.


Well a freebsd rip off.. But yeah, Unix based.. Why do you think you don't have to reboot it every 2 days like an old windows machine.. Anyway we start an apple vs. X thread I'm in.. But Til then.. Back to motochick lol
 
Somebody give Cal a factory Yamaha ride. I'm as big a Rossi fan as the next guy but if the season carries on as it's been going so this year it's only fair to Cal he gets a factory ride. Why should he stand aside and take ........ from his team of 'threatening' to bring in Pol to replace him? Cal is riding out of his skin on that bike. Okay so Bradley is in his first year, it's going to take him some time to get used to the bike...but even so, him and Cal are lightyears apart. Good on Cal for sticking up for himself, hope he gets a factory Yamaha or Honda ride one day even though it's unlikely.
 
Jums, I know you enjoy picking apart words, sentences and paragraphs and at times you do so with extraordinary levels of detail, but often in doing so (or simply looking to do so) you overlook a message that may well be contained in the full item and not just specific words within.


 


So, to humour and explain a little.


 


Stoner has never (to my knowledge) disparaged an employer whilst still under contract that that employer (said with uncertainty if he held any personal sponsorship and thus employ with Michelin in 2006).


 


I simply state that it is a pleasure to have a rider prepared to speak out and not toe the politically correct, pr drivel line of so many others this year, last year and before that. Yes, I find it oh so boring when (in all sports) we get the same drivel spewed forth when a microphone is thrust under the nose.


 


What I find interesting is that over recent years we have had Stoner pilloried for comments, Edwards lauded for comments and Cal getting in general 50/50 lauded against lambasted for comments. 


 


For me, what a riders says when allowed to speak freely and openly is of interest as often it portrays aspects that show an insight in the passion and/or drive that the person contains. Certainly at times what spews forth may be unpalatable or seen as whinging or whinging, but that is significantly better that having 22 riders all say the same thing.


 


I will not judge if what Cal said was fair, foul or full of himself and did not, what I said and have said for years is that a rider should be allowed to put forward a view and if he/she is able to provide some substance to back up that view, then more power.


 


On the Nicky side, I agree and suggest that if he had the kahunas to speak up in the manner of Cal he may not have been placed into some of the positions in which he has found himself and perhaps he can and should be used as a good example of those who have not 'spewed forth the vitriol and been trodden asunder' brigade.


 


All good and again I say, horses for courses and open that mouth Cal.   :)
 
SuperShinya56
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Oooh...... this one is feisty.  I like.


 


Just give me a minute of your time, I'm sure you'll have a change of mind.  Just don't beat me up though, I mean..... not in that kind of way.  Hehehe.


 


A minute? You can last that long?
 

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