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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Racejumkie @ May 8 2007, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>That's how I get all my information; I never actually look at the races and analyze them. I read everybody else’s analysis, then form mine based on second hand commentary. I guess Googling just comes easy to me.

That explains. First I thought your dealyed your comments here because you wanted too watch the race first, but in reality you just watchd all the comments to see how things developed before you started posting here?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ May 8 2007, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>That explains.
I gotta do what I gotta do to keep up with the great minds on this forum somehow.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Racejumkie @ May 8 2007, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I gotta do what I gotta do to keep up with the great minds on this forum somehow.
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Tame, very tame lol!!!!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Burky @ May 8 2007, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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Tame, very tame lol!!!!

Burky i think your finger slipped. Jumkie he's calling you lame!!

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ May 8 2007, 11:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Burky i think your finger slipped. Jumkie he's calling you lame!!

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I don't reckon Jumkie's been on vacation. He's been on an anger management course!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ May 8 2007, 03:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Burky i think your finger slipped. Jumkie he's calling you lame!!

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Yeah, Burky did slip, but what he ment to type is: I got game not lame.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Racejumkie @ May 8 2007, 11:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, Burky did slip, but what he ment to type is: I got game not lame.

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I am actually stunned by how well Casey has done, but I am happy for him, & i seriously doubt there is anyone who can catch him - either in the race or in the standings...

...but we shall see.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ May 8 2007, 08:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I would've taken your points seriosly had it not been for a simple reason.

Your post is full of Rossi hate and it's so biased it's unbelieveable.

Rossi usually wins week-in, week-out because he can get the best out of his available package. Not because he is a 'hero'.

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I am not going to cry because you don't take me serious. I do hate Rossi and I think there have been many reasons why I hate Rossi so much. I mean, I hate nobody with exception from Rossi. But saying all my points are biased just shows how biased you are in the opposite direction and how much you are in "love" with Krusty.
 
I did the effort to look up 1 thing. It costed me more or less 20 minutes to find this article. So don't ever ask me again to search for an article. 20 minutes is just a too big waste of my time.

http://www.as.com/articulo/motor/Pedrosa/p...asdaimot_1/Tes/

This is from a Spanish newspaper. The most important part is the following:

... como cuando se refirió a él antes del inicio del Mundial por las ventajas que podía tener por su talla, tan diminuta que llegó a decir que no es que fuera pequeño, que era un niño, se limitó a decir: "Tengo 21 años, no soy un niño. Yo juego a correr, no a hablar".

Translation:

... like when he (Rossi) refered at the start of the championship that Pedrosa may have his length as an advantage, he even said Pedrosa is not small but is a little kid, ...

Rossi is just such a nice guy, don't you think ?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ToniElias @ May 9 2007, 10:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I am not going to cry because you don't take me serious. I do hate Rossi and I think there have been many reasons why I hate Rossi so much. I mean, I hate nobody with exception from Rossi. But saying all my points are biased just shows how biased you are in the opposite direction and how much you are in "love" with Krusty.

Haha

You have to be having a ....... laugh.

I appreciate Rossi's skill, yeah, he actually has some unlike Toni 'Oh look! A gravel trap!' Elias. Yeah, how many championships has Toni won? And the only reason people seem to like him here is because of his agressive style on the bike.

Toni was such a nice guy blaming Nicky Hayden on Eurosport wasn't he?

points to Toseland as fav rider

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Edit: You saying this in the 'STREETFIGHT' post may have biased my opinion.
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"Me against Rossi, and I will win the battle ... again !!!
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You do know you are not Toni Elias right?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ May 9 2007, 11:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I appreciate Rossi's skill, yeah, he actually has some unlike Toni 'Oh look! A gravel trap!' Elias. Yeah, how many championships has Toni won? And the only reason people seem to like him here is because of his agressive style on the bike.

I think any motorcycle racing fan appreciates Rossi's skill, but that seems a bit to hard on Toni (the real one). He is obviously a highly skilled rider and has had a lot of world championship level success. He may have any championships yet, but a lot of riders don't (Hopper for example), and they still develop a large fan base for a number of reasons.

However, ToniElias (the one on here), you must be able to see your outrageous bias, and think hard about the things you have said before you accuse someone so much less biased of being unfair.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ May 9 2007, 10:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I appreciate Rossi's skill, yeah, he actually has some unlike Toni 'Oh look! A gravel trap!' Elias.

You definitely don't have the skill to reply on posts. You highlight some of my comments and reply things that have nothing to do with it. Keep up the good work
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ May 9 2007, 10:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Toni was such a nice guy blaming Nicky Hayden on Eurosport wasn't he?

Well, every driver has his own point of view on such things. I am not completely convinced who is to blame but if Hayden indeed does brake suddenly because he would else hit someone in front of him, than maybe Elias has a point. But anyway, I think nobody is to blame. Everyone was riding on a high speed and very close behind each other so the minor thing that happens can cause a crash. Also, Elias didn't blame Hayden. Maybe he said that he couldn't collapse avoid him because Hayden braked and he was to close to Hayden so he couldn't avoid to hit him. But he didn't say: "Hayden drove dangerous. He should change his style. He is a menace. He is a stupid. Actually I am thinking a lot worse about him than just stupid but I am not going to tell what I really think about him. He wants to play it like this, well next race it will be payback time." Or did he ?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ May 9 2007, 10:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>"Me against Rossi, and I will win the battle ... again !!!
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So I am not Elias ? Thanks for telling. But I am sure you are Rossi. Only the real Rossi can have that level of annoyance.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ToniElias @ May 9 2007, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So I am not Elias ? Thanks for telling. But I am sure you are Rossi. Only the real Rossi can have that level of annoyance.
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What is your problem with Rossi? And me?

I disagree with you, and you accuse me of being annyoing and in love with 'Krusty' (shows how annoying you are that you don't even have respect for the man).

Go on, tell us what is so great about Elias and what is so bad about Rossi?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ May 9 2007, 11:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What is your problem with Rossi? And me?

I disagree with you, and you accuse me of being annyoing and in love with 'Krusty' (shows how annoying you are that you don't even have respect for the man).

Go on, tell us what is so great about Elias and what is so bad about Rossi?
You really don't understand it, do you ? I don't think Elias is some kind of superhero. I like the way he drives his bike. It is spectacular. In the same way, I like Rossis way of driving. Rossi is a hell of a driver. But I hate Rossis personality. There have been several incidents which made me hate him.

His fighting with Biaggi and the mindgames he played with him.
His hyprocitical behaviour towards Gibernau. I mean, he was cheating in some race to have a faster start. Gibernau reported this to the motogp leaders and Rossi got a grid punishment. But the worst of all was that instead of saying he was guilty and to promise to never repeat such low behaviour, he got angry with Gibernau and started to insult him and mock him. He even wiped the floor in front of Sete when he won that race. This is the world the other way around. The cheater shouldn't get punished but the one reporting the cheating is the bad guy.
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Some of his overtaking manouevers in the past, especially against Sete and Pedrosa.
He insulted Pedrosa of being a child and says he is fast because of his length.
He insulted Elias because of his overtaking. But first of all, in the same race, he overtook Hopkins in an ever worse way. Did you saw how he passed Hopkins ? It makes Elias pass look like a girl overtaking. I saw the move again this weekend and I really wonder how Rossi has the minor guts to blame Elias after he made a 10 times worse move IN THE SAME RACE. Secondly, he was superbly agressive last year against Pedrosa and when Pedrosa complained he said motogp was a men sports. But when Elias makes a hard pass to him, suddenly he is a nutscase ? Wasn't motogp for men ?
When he doesn't win a race, it is always because of the others having a bike advantage. It has always been like that with him. Now, it is Stoners turn. Why just not say that Stoner did a better job than him ? Why not say Elias passed him fair and square in Turkey ? It is not because he has 7 world titles, that he can never be beaten in a fair way. He even said that he thought he was invincible. Incredible.
Last year he tested in formula 1 a Ferrari and the only thing he did was breaking down formula 1. He was just saying formula 1 wasn't so hard and so on and so on. He was just showing no respect at all to all the people in F1 and had fights with Briatore and Alonso.

I can go on and on with this guy. The problem just is he is superbly arrogant, has no respect for his rivals, you turn into his enemy once you beat him, he has no respects for the whole formula 1, he is a big cheater and when he gets caught he blames everyone except himself, ... The sooner this guy gets out of motogp, the better. This guy doesn't even know the meaning of education.

And don't tell me to have respect for a guy who only respects himself. Yes, he smiles a lot to the camera. But what you see is his second face. His first face is revealed when he loses or when he is in serious competition with someone else.

And for those talking about Stoners bike advantage, I would suggest to read the following article:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/58584

Edwards: "I genuinely believe that our bike is the best on the grid and I've never felt happier with it, but unfortunately the package as a whole isn't working for me at the moment and we need to understand why."
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ToniElias @ May 9 2007, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>1. He was just showing no respect at all to all the people in F1 and had fights with Briatore and Alonso.

2. I can go on and on with this guy. The problem just is he is superbly arrogant, has no respect for his rivals, you turn into his enemy once you beat him,

1. Briatore is a ......

2. This in not true, he maintained maximum respect for Hayden last year, acknowledged being beaten and congratulated the new champion, and i also remember his congratulation to Elias after Portugal.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ToniElias @ May 9 2007, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'> His fighting with Biaggi and the mindgames he played with him.
His hyprocitical behaviour towards Gibernau. I mean, he was cheating in some race to have a faster start. Gibernau reported this to the motogp leaders and Rossi got a grid punishment. But the worst of all was that instead of saying he was guilty and to promise to never repeat such low behaviour, he got angry with Gibernau and started to insult him and mock him. He even wiped the floor in front of Sete when he won that race. This is the world the other way around. The cheater shouldn't get punished but the one reporting the cheating is the bad guy.
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Some of his overtaking manouevers in the past, especially against Sete and Pedrosa.
He insulted Pedrosa of being a child and says he is fast because of his length.
He insulted Elias because of his overtaking. But first of all, in the same race, he overtook Hopkins in an ever worse way. Did you saw how he passed Hopkins ? It makes Elias pass look like a girl overtaking. I saw the move again this weekend and I really wonder how Rossi has the minor guts to blame Elias after he made a 10 times worse move IN THE SAME RACE. Secondly, he was superbly agressive last year against Pedrosa and when Pedrosa complained he said motogp was a men sports. But when Elias makes a hard pass to him, suddenly he is a nutscase ? Wasn't motogp for men ?
When he doesn't win a race, it is always because of the others having a bike advantage. It has always been like that with him. Now, it is Stoners turn. Why just not say that Stoner did a better job than him ? Why not say Elias passed him fair and square in Turkey ? It is not because he has 7 world titles, that he can never be beaten in a fair way. He even said that he thought he was invincible. Incredible.
Last year he tested in formula 1 a Ferrari and the only thing he did was breaking down formula 1. He was just saying formula 1 wasn't so hard and so on and so on. He was just showing no respect at all to all the people in F1 and had fights with Briatore and Alonso.

I can go on and on with this guy. The problem just is he is superbly arrogant, has no respect for his rivals, you turn into his enemy once you beat him, he has no respects for the whole formula 1, he is a big cheater and when he gets caught he blames everyone except himself, ... The sooner this guy gets out of motogp, the better. This guy doesn't even know the meaning of education.

And don't tell me to have respect for a guy who only respects himself. Yes, he smiles a lot to the camera. But what you see is his second face. His first face is revealed when he loses or when he is in serious competition with someone else.

And for those talking about Stoners bike advantage, I would suggest to read the following article:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/58584

Edwards: "I genuinely believe that our bike is the best on the grid and I've never felt happier with it, but unfortunately the package as a whole isn't working for me at the moment and we need to understand why."

about the fights with Biaggi - didn't Biaggi also provoke him (rossi)? and the media made it all big. plus, biaggi did fight back. it's male testosterone. (sorry guys)

about the mind games - don't all these drivers play mind games to try to psych out the competitions. it's up to the other driver if he gets affected or not. it's the game, man.

about not reacting to Sete's complaint - again, psych out.

about overtaking maneuvers and complaining - i think you kinda contradicted yourself with the sete case and the perdrosa and elias case

about pedrosa the "kid" - why would anybody get insulted when you're called a child? "

about the "other's bikes having an advantage' - i've watched a lot of his interviews and he's admitted that sometimes his bike doesn't work as well as they'd hoped and that he hopes they can recover on the next race. hence that's when his favorite line comes out, "I push and i push da bike 'ard... (then shakes head a bit)"

about f1 - whadaya mean insult f1/ he enjoyed every minute of driving the Ferrari. plus if you've read his book, i think it's the other way around. he kinda insulted himself... and quote (while driving the f1 car and planning what to do at the curve) 'This car is faster than my brain!"

just a thought....

p.s

great ride by casey last weekend!!!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vtinoimik @ May 9 2007, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>about pedrosa the "kid" - why would anybody get insulted when you're called a child? "

Well Pedrosa just wanted to be taken seriously, and actually after the media tried to make trouble between these two, Rossi made it publicly clear that he doesn't want any trouble with Dani and that he did not mean any harm by his comment (which the media tried to use against him).
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ May 9 2007, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well Pedrosa just wanted to be taken seriously, and actually after the media tried to make trouble between these two, Rossi made it publicly clear that he doesn't want any trouble with Dani and that he did not mean any harm by his comment (which the media tried to use against him).

exactly. so it wasn't an insult. point across.
 

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