Can Ducati get two wins in 2016??

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Might be the first time I've seen you engage in self-introspection.

Even if this is accidental, try not to stop.

So - I take it the agreement is over? You're being your usual provocative self with the sophomoric insults. I've maintained a chill attitude and you continue. Remember this when you start in with the "Keshav instigates all the troubles around here." .........
 
The truth can feel insulting.

Not to honest people. I know you'd like to think that your barbs are eviscerating but - nothing you say has any effect on me, because you're not a credible example of truth telling. You obviously have learned your "truth-craft" from this guy.
 

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Just like I thought. More of the same as you would say, "pettifogging". The answer a reasonable person would say is, "I apologize, It wont happen again. I agree to not quote or respond to you ever again" Theres also a button called ignore that DOES THIS FOR YOU!!
Youve run out of excuses. I will once report to Duc that you continue to provoke me even after I asked multiple times to be left alone

Go ahead and report me. Ironic how you and your ilk were whining about people being "snitches" when you were banned - but the moment you have a chance to confect some nonsensical imagined insult (there was none) you go snitching. I'm not making any excuses. My behavior has been civil and without rancor.
 
Disclaimer: this has been an enjoyable thread, typical of Powerslide. Good music, hilarious exchanges about dumpsters etc. If you don't want your buzz to end please skip my post. I'm serious. Its not worth reading, it's only directed at Kesh.




Stop reading, save yourself.






........, and as usual you refuse to acknowledge or understand that we are all individuals. None of us speak for the other, there is no group condition Kesh! You have no agreement with us as a unit, and none of us exercises any control over the other. Its a fact of life you don't fully grasp, that you only have control over yourself. You continually lump us as one to formulate your pathological approach to engage 'us'. You (Kesh) and i agreed to mutually not directly and indirectly engage eachother, you have broken that several times, which i let go until you started doing this with such regularity that it needed to be addressed. I understand we will debate the same racing topics, but it can be done without directly engaging eachother. You have quoted me several times which I ignored, then in the Gracious Marc thread you again quoted me to provoke a response by making judgments only about the soundness of my logic NOT the actual topic. You did this to elicit a response!

You have consistently never kept your word and when repeatedly asked to stop you have offered some ........ rationalization why you think it's fine to break the agreement. Its on you Kesh. Accept responsibility for your actions, acknowledge you broke your word for once in your life. I am happy and willing not to engage you because i consider you toxic, dishonest, and not the sort of person I want to engage. You sap good vibes and a vibrant experience from this forum for me, so it's just better to not engage you period.

A while back this could have been salvaged with a genuine apology for your awful personal attacks and backstabbing, but you don't see that you are at fault. So of course this is futile. That's why i don't even want to insult you or engage you whatsoever; again, i want nothing to do with you: neutral, nonthreatening, or otherwise! Dont offer you version of an "olive branch" (usually a thorn bush) i dont want to be associated with you. I've had good friends who have offered their genuine advice to me to ignore you. People I honestly respect (and I apologize to them here for not ignoring you), on top of that I realized you diminish my experience here, and hence why I asked you to please not engage me. Do not rationalize that if you address me nicely about some topic that somehow I'll be ok with it. Again, I request you make a new year's resolution to not address me. You clearly do not operate on the same level as I do in regards to human relationships, which I have accepted and hence why I've asked you not to engage me in any way. It can be done Kesh. Resist the need to include me in your 'derogatory' lumping together of members (you had admitted this was in fact a derogatory tactic, therefore you must recognize when you do it you are engaging in provocation). Again Kesh, i (me--Jumkie) don't want anything to do with you. Zero. JP, Mdub, and JK are all individuals and I don't speak for them, though from what I read, they are ALL disgusted with you too; you are the common denominator as we came here at different times with different viewpoints, and yet we do have this in common, clearly it's YOU that's that problem. I don't care enough about you Kesh to give you advice to repair your damaged character. At some point I actually did want you to apologize because that's the kinda guy I am, furthermore, that's the type of people I associate with, people who respect eachother. However, i think we are past that, so while you continue to elicit a reaction from me by invoking my name, quoting me, and directly or indirectly engaging me then expect a response, as you clearly never had any intention of keeping your side of the agreement. You have utterly no intention of clearing this forum of flam wars, you have done more damage to the experience here than any of us put together, a fact you astonishingly dont recognize, YOU are at the center of every .... storm.

FYI - I didn't have to read it. I can see one of your bully pulpit rants coming from a mile away; and this, despite the fact that I've said not a word to you.
 
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Yet another thread grenaded by Keshav. I wonder what's the count now, surely it's got to be in the double digits.
 
Just like I thought. More of the same as you would say, "pettifogging". The answer a reasonable person would say is, "I apologize, It wont happen again. I agree to not quote or respond to you ever again" Theres also a button called ignore that DOES THIS FOR YOU!!
Youve run out of excuses. I will once report to Duc that you continue to provoke me even after I asked multiple times to be left alone

Not just provoke you but his constant harassment of the forum community.



"If someone is banned from the community, it means they were either a) a spambot or b) they were making constant personal attacks TOWARDS THE COMMUNITY and after multiple posts, it's obvious they are only here to CAUSE STRIFE within the community." Duc
 
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So I have now been equated to being on the level of a Nazi such as Josef Goebbels?

Kesh that is why you are not liked here. You are an absolute piece of .....
 
So I have now been equated to being on the level of a Nazi such as Josef Goebbels?

Kesh that is why you are not liked here. You are an absolute piece of .....


The reason I'm not liked by four people here (out of many others with whom I've never had a beef) is because you are four like-minded persons who bond around hatred and intolerance and bullying. The four of you are continually spewing hatred and when anyone disagrees with you, you create a hostile environment. Listening to the contrived outrage that the four of you profess to believe is like listening to the Republican debates where each candidate tries to out-do the others, with who can tell the biggest lie, who can be the most intolerant, who can be the most hypocritical and the most sanctimonious.

You do that all you want to. Might doesn't make right. You all want me to leave like all the other people who you've driven away from this forum and it sticks in your craw that I won't give into your bullying. It makes you insane.

Me.... I'm just fine. Just calmly waiting around till people come around who want to actually talk about racing, as opposed to trying to dominate the forum narrative with hatred and narrow-mindedness.

If you don't want to communicate with me, then put me on ignore and let me get on with the business of talking racing with reasonable people. But you won't do that. You're too obsessed with trying to crush my spirit.

Not going to happen.
 
... spewing hatred and when anyone disagrees with you, you create a hostile environment.


... who can be the most intolerant, who can be the most hypocritical and the most sanctimonious.

See below what Kesh means when he says he is here to talk racing... until people disagree with him, then it's ok to "create a hostile environment".


On the topic of Marquez:

Kesh to MikeM: "Not like you to be so bloody-minded Michael." About leaving thread: "I personally don't think anyone here, not even you, have anything new to add to this topic - so I think I'll beg off."

Kesh to Birdman: "You're just pulling stuff out of your ...." About leaving thread: "Is there any merit in continuing this debate? I don't think so."

Kesh to Povol: "I could get you a job sniffing luggage at the airport."




This doesn't sound like a person who is very tolerant of people who disagree. Sounds like as soon as anyone disagrees with Kesh about anything you will be subjected to sanctimonious hypocrisy. This is the type of forum experience Kesh brings to this space--hostility and condescension.
 
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Finally a relevant post from Migs. Congrats Migs. I never thought you had it in you. Saying more with less is a gift. This is your greatest post ever. You finally laid your balls on the line and admitted Kesh is a problem. Your emoji can only mean that your bored by our endless dickering. I believe your saying, "yawn, your ........ is tiresome"
Previously you have only pointed the finger at me and others who oppose Kesh. I finally have some respect for you buddy.
I do have a question for you though. Did you recognize why I commented in this thread war. I asked to be put on ignore and never be quoted or replied to by Keshav. I have requested this of him multiple times and he continues to ignore my wishes. I am adhering to the conduct policy put forth by Duc And he continues to break it. Following your advice I have reported this conduct everytime its breached. He obviously hasnt been admonished by Duc or else he wouldnt be so brazen. He basically says FU, I'll do whatever I what . You always seem to have advice to give. Can you please ask or advise Keshav to put me on ignore.
Thanks buddy. I look forward to more relevant posts from you
 
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After 2011-2012 Ducati should have packed their bags and ...... off to Wsbk. If you can't win with the Greatest Of All Time Rider (allegedly) with the Greatest Of All Willingness to Change Everything, with the Greatest Of All Race Budgets, with the Greatest Of All Favoritism, with the Greatest Of All Backing, with the Greatest Of All Interest, with the Greatest Of All Support, with the Greatest Of All Praying, with the Greatest Of All Wishing, with the Greatest Of All Coverage, with the Greatest Of All Hype, then you should realize this thing isn't gonna work out.


Problem with you Dunkie is that you rant, endlessly. Never miss a chance to twist a good technical debate into a political squabble, uh? :rolleyes:

By the way. I do not have any illusion that you can respect people who work with passion and are so evidently better than you, but just for the record: you should wash your mouth (with pure water, not your usual fuel...!) before you say anything about Ducati. They will be rewarded for their efforts, and you will loo kexactly like what you are. :p
 
J4rn0, you understood the message in my post as disrespect for Ducati? Hahaha bro, use Google translate homie.
 
The reason I'm not liked by four people here (out of many others with whom I've never had a beef) is because you are four like-minded persons who bond around hatred and intolerance and bullying. The four of you are continually spewing hatred and when anyone disagrees with you, you create a hostile environment. Listening to the contrived outrage that the four of you profess to believe is like listening to the Republican debates where each candidate tries to out-do the others, with who can tell the biggest lie, who can be the most intolerant, who can be the most hypocritical and the most sanctimonious.

You do that all you want to. Might doesn't make right. You all want me to leave like all the other people who you've driven away from this forum and it sticks in your craw that I won't give into your bullying. It makes you insane.

Me.... I'm just fine. Just calmly waiting around till people come around who want to actually talk about racing, as opposed to trying to dominate the forum narrative with hatred and narrow-mindedness.

If you don't want to communicate with me, then put me on ignore and let me get on with the business of talking racing with reasonable people. But you won't do that. You're too obsessed with trying to crush my spirit.

Not going to happen.

This topic going south is because of your inability to not provoke and antagonize people.

No one wants to talk racing with you because when we did, you ruined that topic as well with your stupidity, and then outright antagonism.

For the record, there was no agreement with you. You keep referencing a phantom agreement that was never made. I can't speak for whatever deal you have made with others. But as for you and I, no such thing was said. Frankly, your word doesn't mean anything since this topic was another case of you not holding to your word. Sort of like your "hiatus".
 

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