Brno Moto 2

MotoGP Forum

Help Support MotoGP Forum:

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.
looked like lüthi was just waiting for the ideal moment in the last corners. sadly didn't happen for him



great ride by marquez , great save by espargaro earlier in the race
 
Arrabbiata1 said:
Flawless ride by Marquez
Click to expand...



Urs would be too with the knowledge of having 5+ extra ponies in the pocket. Im not buying it. Watch last lap again, see the helo shot up the hill. The parity games continue. Sure bikes dont ride themselves, but Luthi & Innone are bringing a switchblade to a cannon fight.
 
Jumkie said:
Urs would be too with the knowledge of having 5+ extra ponies in the pocket. Im not buying it. Watch last lap again, see the helo shot up the hill. The parity games continue. Sure bikes dont ride themselves, but Luthi & Innone are bringing a switchblade to a cannon fight.
Click to expand...



How do you explain Indy. His bike was no where near the fastest on the long Indy front straight, yet he was putting a half second on faster bikes at will. You ever stop to think that maybe, just maybe, his corner exit is just better, or that his tiny stature benefits him greatly in acceleration. especially uphill scenarios. I personally believe he has a better team, and they are just better at giving their rider what he wants
 
Marquez in a different league again...is this championship a done deal? Lol Jum. I'd have to disagree and say i really think he is just that much better than the others. He does have a great team and a lot of extra recognition but other than that i think hes legit.
 
<
Haven't seen the race, I'm in the Minnesota for a couple weeks. Man, the GP faucet does not flow in these northwoods! Be back for Aragon though for the races with my hermanito!!



Got the play by play, and looks like another Marquez racing show.



Jumkie, jumkie... It aint extra ponies. Maybe beer farts from the Czec brews that helped propel him past his rivals! Got to be it!
 
I have considered another explanation for superior acceleration, i mentioned it a while back, that is, superior electronics. Doesnt change my take, either legally or illegally, he is riding with a mechanical advantage.



Pov, not drive when the acceleration diff happens well off the corner and deep into the straight. Not buying the midget explanation.
 
Anyone? How many of the Moto2 teams have spent time in a wind tunnel?

If Marqie Boi is one of the few to have a highly optimized fairing and rider aero, it would be no surprise to see him going a few MPH faster.
 
Jumkie said:
I have considered another explanation for superior acceleration, i mentioned it a while back, that is, superior electronics. Doesnt change my take, either legally or illegally, he is riding with a mechanical advantage.



Pov, not drive when the acceleration diff happens well off the corner and deep into the straight. Not buying the midget explanation.
Click to expand...



Superior drive will show itself till the next braking point, especially on identically prepared low HP engines. And yes, 11-12 pounds will make quite a difference in drive everything else being equal. You insinuated he was cheating by having 5 extra hp, now MAYBE its a LEGAL electronics advantage. If its legal, whats the beef. That just means he has a better TEAM
 
povol said:
Superior drive will show itself till the next braking point, especially on identically prepared low HP engines. And yes, 11-12 pounds will make quite a difference in drive everything else being equal. You insinuated he was cheating by having 5 extra hp, now MAYBE its a LEGAL electronics advantage. If its legal, whats the beef. That just means he has a better TEAM
Click to expand...

I know comprehension isn't your forte, but I said I have "considered" other explanations you moron. Its some kind of advantage, I tend to think its cheating. The RNC is further making your brain into mush.
 
Jumkie said:
I know comprehension isn't your forte, but I said I have "considered" other explanations you moron. Its some kind of advantage, I tend to think its cheating. The RNC is further making your brain into mush.
Click to expand...



And thats why i said in BIG LETTERS " MAYBE". Bottom line is, like a typical liberal, you want to tear down what someone has built because they have shown a propensity to excel. It cant come through hard work, it has to be cheating because no way he can do that and i cant. waaaaaaa waaaa. Report him to union steward, he is making us look bad, waaa waaa.
 
povol said:
And thats why i said in BIG LETTERS " MAYBE". Bottom line is, like a typical liberal, you want to tear down what someone has built because they have shown a propensity to excel. It cant come through hard work, it has to be cheating because no way he can do that and i cant. waaaaaaa waaaa. Report him to union steward, he is making us look bad, waaa waaa.
Click to expand...



Hahaha, you are a complete robot dude. Using the line that Reps are using completely out of context. But if you repeat it enough, then it must be true right? hahaha "You didn't build that!" Use that quote in context you ....., not the way the RNC told you to use it. Can you? Go stick your head in the sand, thats exactly how your puppet masters love it. They give you cute little messages out of context to avoid seeing the glaring reality that big business is fleecing you. YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT! ......., again, comprehension isn't your forte. Continue to think the executives in charge are all honest patriots that have your best interest in mind. No backroom deals, horsetrading, cheating, stretching and bending of the rules, no Dorna is just like the Bain executives who are really "helping America" right? hahaha It wouldn't be so bad if you idiots didn't effect the rest of the country with your stupid voting. The smartest people in the room have figured out how to .... us using our own democratic system, they figured out they only have to fool 50%+1. Most of which live in the South. Again, that lack of education connection, eh.
 
So, back to Moto 2 racing....



If there is nothing illegal in the package, there is no cheating. If a team can not attain this "extra" through hard work, or some extra $ from a sponsor, then in my POV, it is the other teams problem/fault.



$ and a loving family will get a kid to any school in the US, but at the end of the day if the kid isn't passing his exams he's out. Marc is so far acing his tests, and has scholarships lined up to pay for his graduate degree.



I was jealous of them rich kids too. Then I shacked up with their sister and now I'm part of the family!! Wooohoooo!
 
Haha, marry up, good on u. Anyway, sorry for political rant, we are in a middle of elections, and peeps like Pov are ruining the country.



Back on topic, Marcs a nice good kid from what i can tell. But from what i see from the comfort of my lazy boy and big screen, is a talented rider that has a machine advantage (legal or illegal). Its a bit obvious, and what i dont get is even experts get on describing how hes a cut above without coupling this reality of results with mechanical advantage. If we are going to simple say, hey, the guy winning all the time must be the best, even "alien", then why does this not apply to the reverse reality when u have people still calling Rossi an "alien" finishing 7-10 all the time? What next year, he will be on the podium, if nit outright winning. So where does it leave riders challenging Marc, who get passed at will, up hill?
 
Jumkie said:
Haha, marry up, good on u. Anyway, sorry for political rant, we are in a middle of elections, and peeps like Pov are ruining the country.



Back on topic, Marcs a nice good kid from what i can tell. But from what i see from the comfort of my lazy boy and big screen, is a talented rider that has a machine advantage (legal or illegal). Its a bit obvious, and what i dont get is even experts get on describing how hes a cut above without coupling this reality of results with mechanical advantage. If we are going to simple say, hey, the guy winning all the time must be the best, even "alien", then why does this not apply to the reverse reality when u have people still calling Rossi an "alien" finishing 7-10 all the time? What next year, he will be on the podium, if nit outright winning. So where does it leave riders challenging Marc, who get passed at will, up hill?
Click to expand...



Peeps like pov are shining the light on the corruption of peeps like Jum and his unions, and they dont seem to like it much. What is it they say, sunshine is the best disinfectant . Like roaches under a sun lamp. If exposing the corrupt liberal agenda is ruining the country, im guilty as charged
 
povol said:
Peeps like pov are shining the light on the corruption of peeps like Jum and his unions, and they dont seem to like it much. What is it they say, sunshine is the best disinfectant . Like roaches under a sun lamp. If exposing the corrupt liberal agenda is ruining the country, im guilty as charged
Click to expand...
You'd do better shining the light on the exponentially more corrupt power brokers speeding their .... not only in the US but gererously parading their war lord .... and pillage actions around the globe... Labour unions are small fish in the sea of corruption Pov.
 
Mick D said:
You'd do better shining the light on the exponentially more corrupt power brokers speeding their .... not only in the US but gererously parading their war lord .... and pillage actions around the globe... Labour unions are small fish in the sea of corruption Pov.
Click to expand...



I disagree. Government labor unions are playing a huge part in crashing economies all over the world. They are a big fish in a sea of corruption, not the only one, but a big one none the less. Ask the state comptroller of California, Illinois, or any other bankrupt state what the 800 pound Gorilla in the room is, and they will tell you its the billions and billions of dollars of unfunded retirement benefits, and unsustainable compensation packages that the unions have given themselves. They are in bed with the other big fish, cross breeding if you will, playing the Ponzi scheme with Wall Street investors. Well, the Ponzi scheme collapsed, like all Ponzi schemes do and the unions are scrambling. What to do? Suck more from the tax payer of course. The only problem is, the tax payer is revolting as we saw in 2010, and will see again in 2012. For those who dont understand how this scheme works, here is a tutorial on just one of the public sector Ponzi schemes.



<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/mVyNlJUKgug?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
 
http://www.motomatters.com/news/2012/09/05/2013_motogp_rider_line_up_the_story_so_f.html

Spending 2012 on the Suter Moto2 machine - clearly inferior to the all-conquering Kalex - has been good for Marquez' development, as it has forced him to find ways to win and get results when the odds have gone against him.





When it comes to Moto GP, Moto2 etc: i will take Krops opinions over most, and he seems to think that Marquez is dominating on an inferior machine.
 

Similar threads

V
Want To Buy Hi. A long shot but after 2 tickets for moto gp in Valencia in november
Replies
6
Views
497
Welshbikes
W
TeamKoolGreen
Is Moto GP going to be the next big thing ?
Replies
18
Views
486
Sennas_Caress
S
AnnoyingTwit
CF Moto V4
Replies
0
Views
534
AnnoyingTwit
AnnoyingTwit
AnnoyingTwit
MotoE on the road?
Replies
11
Views
638
mikesbytes
mikesbytes
C
For Sale Moto gp Silverstone tickets
Replies
2
Views
258
Jlg123
J

Recent Discussions

Recent Discussions

Back
Top