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Brno GP !

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usually this stuff gives you an insight to what people are doing around the track, the big picture if you like,will try to see what Honda are upto also !
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MotoGP Set-up Report - Brno

Round 11: Czech Republic, Brno
Track length: 5403 m
Opened: 1987
Fastest Lap Ever: 1'58.769 (Valentino Rossi, 2003)
MotoGP lap record: 1'59.302 (Alex Barros, 2004)
Last year MotoGP winner: Sete Gibernau
Circuit tel: +420 5 46216111
Circuit web site: http://www.automotodrombrno.cz

2004 Race Summary
Valentino Rossi started the Czech Republic Grand Prix somewhat disadvantaged after both qualifying sessions on Friday and Saturday were wet. With no opportunity to test for an optimum race setting he started the dry 22-lap race having made an educated guess at his M1's set-up. Nevertheless Rossi was in contention from the word go, slotting into fourth after the first lap. The Italian had a close battle on his YZR-M1 machine with championship Honda rivals Sete Gibernau and Max Biaggi, ultimately holding on to finish in second - 3.514 seconds behind Gibernau at the flag. After a slight scare at the end of the first lap, when his wheel touched the trackside grass causing a serious wobble, Rossi went on to pass the Hondas of Biaggi and Alex Barros to move into second position. With Barros crashing out after 14 laps, Rossi took the lead on lap 17 from Gibernau, after which the two swapped places no less than six times as Biaggi closed in on the duelling pair. A worn rear tyre meant Rossi had to settle for second as he was unable to make a final pass on Gibernau.

Set-up report YZR-M1
Visually Brno appears challenging with many long radius medium-speed turns and medium-length straights which lends the Brno Automotodrom to being one of the easier circuits - technically speaking - on the 17 round MotoGP calendar. Combined with the wide, smooth, track surface, it's a venue which also allows a variety of competitive racing lines and passing opportunities - and the majority of the time this takes place under brakes. The second part of the circuit is undulating, something which is not apparent form the TV images, while the corners themselves often feature a positive camber. The Brno tarmac also offers a great amount of grip, but without the reputation for tearing up tyres. All in all, a perfect venue to test the limits on everything a bike has to offer regarding handling.

Due its nature Brno is not overly demanding on any specific area of chassis set-up except on front end feel and the need to concentrate on the overall balance. The main target are good, stable turn in characteristics and a set-up that offers easy changes in direction; supported by a high level of feel from both the front and rear. Yamaha engineers will ensure that the weight bias is as neutral as possible to prevent the front Michelin overloading in the midpoint of the turn while also ensuring good drive off the sides of the rear tyre. This will build the rider's confidence, therefore encouraging him to keep a high rolling speed - a key to making up time at this particular venue. And since the track surface is relatively smooth and the top speeds only just nudge 300kmh, straight-line stability can be sacrificed to some degree in order to support this.

The M1 will run a slightly lower centre of gravity in an effort to improve the rate of pitching and the bike's ability to change direction quickly. It will also reduce the risk of the front folding under the rider while entering the downhill sweepers - caused when excess weight transfers onto the front tyre under deceleration.

With no real specific hard braking anywhere on the five kilometre layout, fork springs will be chosen to maximise rider feedback, although biased slightly towards the softer side. It will also be a similar case on the rear with the monoshock's spring rate. This is possible due to the circuit's design, which allows the rider to keep up his corner speed, and is therefore unlikely to load the rear shock under power to the same extent as riding, for example, the stop-and-go Le Mans layout.

With the long radius corners a consistent and progressive throttle action is needed to ride them quickly. Although power is always a must have, throttle connection and a linear power delivery play a prime part in any successful result at Brno.
 
just looking on the gp site,and in free practice 1 it looks like rossi crashed off again,but has still managed to set fastest time so it look's like the result for the race has already been set ?

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Hey the Proton wasn't the slowest bike !!!

Congrats to McWilliams from getting an old, uncompetitive bike shod with uncompetitive tires in the 107% limit at his age after a year off MotoGP !
 
Good for McWilliams, he is a class act and I wish he was a regular rider in the series again. I miss him. Him out pacing Battaini really goes to show something about his talent level and perhaps lack thereof in Battaini. Anyone call him J McDubs? If no, the nickname shall be given and it shall stick.
 
Battaini's situation is not simple, he is a rookie in MotoGP, he comes from 250cc so he has never ridden anything similar. And everybody knows the WCM is just a Yamaha R1 with slight modifications.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dr Costa @ Aug 26 2005, 01:50 PM)<div class='quotemain'>just looking on the gp site,and in free practice 1 it looks like rossi crashed off again,but has still managed to set fastest time so it look's like the result for the race has already been set ?

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not so fast dr. gonna be a fight me thinks
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The first three rows of the grid look good, Gibbers, Nicky, Capirossi, Rossi, Melandri, Checa, Barros, Hopper and Edwards. We could have an eight man lead battle and I can't wait. Going to have to wake up at 4:30 to begin watching the pre race festivities live and catch the race.

Heart Says
1. Hayden
2. Edwards
3. Hopkins

Head Says
1. Gibernau
2. Hayden
3. Rossi

As much as Rossi and Edwards have been touting how well the track suits the M1 I have to believe it is a load of sht. How does a track suit the most nimble bike when quali shows 1. Honda 2. Honda 3. Ducati 4. Desn't count because if it has two wheel and a lawn mower engine Rossi could qualify it on the front two rows 5. Honda 6. Ducati 7. Honda 8. Suzuki and 9. Yamaha. I think it is a bit of a head game coming from the Gauloises box.
 
The Ducatis and Suzukis were faster than the Kawas.
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Sete looks strong, a hope he wins a couple of races this year, he's been so close.
 
I don't know why, but I feld realy bad for mcwilliams, sitting in his chair and not on his bike today. 'My boy' nicky is doing great, again
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I hope he can have a change to get on the podium tomorrow, that would be realy nice! to bad I can't see the race
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Sete was doing good this qualifing, but I can't stop myself thinking: o, now you can laugh! did you guys heard what he said about the last corner in Sachsenring?? he was 'distracted' by all the mechanics that where cheering him on.. like they don't do that the whole race....
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he is a great rider, but I'm NOT a fan. think I may get a reaction of a sete fan after writing this...
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (46marijke69 @ Aug 27 2005, 04:15 PM)<div class='quotemain'>I don't know why, but I feld realy bad for mcwilliams, sitting in his chair and not on his bike today. 'My boy' nicky is doing great, again
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I hope he can have a change to get on the podium tomorrow, that would be realy nice! to bad I can't see the race 
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Sete was doing good this qualifing, but I can't stop myself thinking: o, now you can laugh! did you guys heard what he said about the last corner in Sachsenring?? he was 'distracted' by all the mechanics that where cheering him on.. like they don't do that the whole race....
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he is a great rider, but I'm NOT a fan. think I may get a reaction of a sete fan after writing this...
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Careful,Umpa Lumpa`s might visit you!!
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you cant judge what will happen in a full race by what someone does in 1 lap how many times has gibber's done a stormin qualifying now compare that to how many wins he has had
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i do think master hayden is up and coming and evn though i am a rossi fan if nicky won it would be well deserved as he has worked extremely hard this season
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so it's
1 Vale
2 Hayden
3 caparossi
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Poor Sete, I feel sympathy for him. That's really bad luck, he had 2nd position secure.

He ran out of fuel !!!
 
The Bstones have improved, they last all the race now, at least in the Ducs.

The Suzukis didn't improve like the Ducatis despite being quite fast in qualy.

The Kawas were slow all the weekend.
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6 out of 10, pretty Rossiesque don't you think so? 
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Nope definatly not. You have rose tinited glasses.

1. Rossi wouldn't have run around in 6th place for half the race. Pedrosa dosn't like mixing it. Why do you think he tries to run up the track and hide all the time.

2. Lucky the back marker got in the rode otherwise Lorenzo would have rought him up and it might have been a different ending, it ruined the ending

Can't see how you can say it was Rossiesque
 
Actuallly he was at the back of the pack because he was studying his rivals, that's exactly what Rossi does, he sits behind Sete until he launches his attack. The difference is that Rossi only had one rival and Dani had a few of them.

The backmarker costed Lorenzo a few tenths but the gap kept increasing until the end of the race so I don't think it affected the overall result.

I can see Rossi fans are starting to fear Dani ...
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