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Yes that x-ray should be from the first days, I only hope he doesn't fall and break that leg again.
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Yes that x-ray should be from the first days, I only hope he doesn't fall and break that leg again.
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the GOAT Wants 2nd in the title race even after a broken leg
There’s still a MotoGP title up for grabs!
At first glance the suggestion seems ridiculous, but a closer look at the numbers and it doesn’t seem entirely impossible. Should the Fiat Yamaha ace return in time for Sachsenring, that gives him 10 rounds to gather points. Returning at Brno gives him just eight GPs to close an even wider gap.
As it stands now, in spite of missing four rounds, Rossi is seventh in the points at 61. The first three riders ahead of him – Casey Stoner, Randy de Puniet and Nicky Hayden - are all less than 10 points ahead. Well within Rossi’s grasp. Repsol Honda teammates Andrea Dovizioso and Dani Pedrosa are a respective 30 and 52 points ahead in the standings.
There’s still a MotoGP title up for grabs!
At first glance the suggestion seems ridiculous, but a closer look at the numbers and it doesn’t seem entirely impossible. Should the Fiat Yamaha ace return in time for Sachsenring, that gives him 10 rounds to gather points. Returning at Brno gives him just eight GPs to close an even wider gap.
As it stands now, in spite of missing four rounds, Rossi is seventh in the points at 61. The first three riders ahead of him – Casey Stoner, Randy de Puniet and Nicky Hayden - are all less than 10 points ahead. Well within Rossi’s grasp. Repsol Honda teammates Andrea Dovizioso and Dani Pedrosa are a respective 30 and 52 points ahead in the standings.
After I am no longer able to ride my Ducati SBK..I will ride a Harley.
Until then...Superbike it is...
My message was: once Rossi is finished with GP's he can still have fun Riding with the likes of 50yrs in WSBK
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Great pics!!!!!
Amazing to see, I initially thought 'too soon' but to lap within 1.5sec of the fastest times from wsbk on that machine is impressive, very impressive at this stage. Jl should be wary the goat is still Hungary!
Big risk of another crash but it seems as though everyone is fairly desperate to get him back with Jl spanking them, stoner bitching and pedders consistently boring the show isn't the same. Which is of concern, like him or not Rossi has brought motogp a long way.
I believe he'll be competative if he returns in Germany, it will definately play with jorges head a bit as Rossis reception will be nothing short of momentous no matter where he places.
Amazing to see, I initially thought 'too soon' but to lap within 1.5sec of the fastest times from wsbk on that machine is impressive, very impressive at this stage. Jl should be wary the goat is still Hungary!
Big risk of another crash but it seems as though everyone is fairly desperate to get him back with Jl spanking them, stoner bitching and pedders consistently boring the show isn't the same. Which is of concern, like him or not Rossi has brought motogp a long way.
I believe he'll be competative if he returns in Germany, it will definately play with jorges head a bit as Rossis reception will be nothing short of momentous no matter where he places.
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when i read he wanted to return early i immediatly thought that this is about history and the grit of a true champion, the guy clearly doesnt want to finish any lower in the championship than he has over the last few years.
i belive hes looking for a 2nd or 3rd maximum in the standing's
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thanks for the pics j4r.
man scraping the knee pads like that has gotta send vibrations through the leg, cant imagine that feeling to good this early lol
bit of footage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU1m-pC2-9U
nice sounds to
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That wouldn't suprise me.... check out the custom colour crutches!
http://www.valentinorossi.com/index-en.html
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That wouldn't suprise me.... check out the custom colour crutches!
http://www.valentinorossi.com/index-en.html
They just look blue to me, is there a more detailed photo of what you mean?
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I'll defer to michaelm's medical expertise if he thinks its bad but I really don't think this is as surprising as many are making it. The only real risk is that of another fall. It his brake foot - they'll rig him a thumb brake. They'll give him a modified boot that's better than the cast you and me would get at Doc X's. The issues are strength and stamina, or lack there-of, causing a fall... Its an interesting challenge, one that I probably would have risked myself, if I were he... Stupid or brave only time and races will tell.
I think the shoulder thing is the biggest worry. For those of us who have had arms/legs plated they take the cast off and you can start using it straight away, but his shoulder has been like this for months. To go out for a first run with a leg break as bad as his was and come in complaining about your shoulder is not good news.
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its going on a while that shoulder chit .. foggy esq
Interesting take on Rossi's injuries by an another doctor:
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Jul/100709millerrossi.htm
American Dean Miller worked as a physiotherapist in Grand Prix and MotoGP for over twenty years. During that time he worked with riders such as Kenny Roberts, Kenny Roberts Junior, Wayne Rainey, John Kocinski, Eddie Lawson and many others. He was the official physiotherapist for both Team Roberts and later Team Suzuki, wrote a book on training with motocrosser Brad Lackey, and helped countless riders recover from racing injuries both minor and major.
Scores of fans around the globe were surprised to see a photograph surface on-line this week of Valentino Rossi, one taken in late June. In the photo, Rossi, who suffered a reported compound fracture of the tibia and fibula in early June, is standing on his broken leg, talking to a female fan. Rossi later rode a Yamaha WSBK Superbike at Misano essentially a month after his crash and double surgeries. Miller has not worked with Rossi and has no first hand knowledge of Rossi's injury (beyond what he had read on-line at enthusiast sites) or treatment, but has worked with a vast number of riders with broken legs over the years.
Miller wasn't surprised to see Rossi standing on his broken leg so soon and wasn't shocked to learn that he'd tested a Superbike in order to gauge his fitness.
"It's not abnormal for him (Rossi) to be up and walking. In fact, that would be an advisable perspective if he had the treatments that I believe he did," Miller said.
"It's not unusual at all," Miller continued, "his biggest complication would probably be is that he had a fracture that resulted with a puncture through the skin. So, when that happens, you're worried about infection. But if that is clear and the surgeon installed a orthopedic rod in his broken leg, and there are no other issues, I'd suggest that walking and riding four weeks after is not really "early" in my opinion. Two weeks, I might have advised the rider to slow down a little."
"Essentially the rod takes the place of the bone," Miller explained. "It takes the pressure, and helps the bone to heal. In fact, you may want the rider to start walking on it sooner than some think, it helps promote healing, the pressure."
Enthusiasts may have feared the worst given that many still remember the broken tibia and fibula that Honda GP rider Michael Doohan suffered on Friday, June 22 1992 in qualifying for the Dutch TT. Doohan's treatment and recovery were nightmarish with doctors at one point fearing that they may have to amputate his leg.
Miller inferred that Doohan's injury, and also the one that Miguel DuHamel suffered in June of 1998 at Loudon, happened almost in the dark ages in terms of modern surgical technique.
"Michael's injury happened almost twenty years ago," he said. "And sports medicine and orthopedic surgery have come a long way since then. Back then, surgeons were doing hundreds of these procedures a year, whereas now they do thousands of them, and have been doing so for years. Techniques have really improved."
"With Michael's injury, he had issues with compartment syndrome and a lack of blood flow from the knee. He had other issues beyond the bone simply healing. Michael also had bad bruising of the bone, which was another issue. With DuHamel, my understanding is that he also had knee injury and any time you have a joint injury it complicates things. No two injuries are ever the same, of course."
Psychologically, riders feel that the normal rules do not apply, be they speed limits, dating rules or those regarding the length of time needed for the human body to heal from injury.
Ex-Team Roberts trainer Dean Miller says that Rossi's broken leg and that of Michael Doohan are very different.
image: thanks, keith patti
Miller agreed, "You know, they always feel better than they think. All these guys have a tendency to get up and start moving quicker than some feel is prudent. I don't see it being a problem. I read his comments after the test and that he's sore should not be a surprise. He hasn't been using his leg the way he's used to so the ankle will be sore. And he has an existing shoulder injury so he has some other things going on. Whether he can ride at the Sachsenring in a week, I don't know. Who is better at knowing what his limits are than Valentino Rossi? I don't think anybody will doubt his perspective. If he's competitive and feels he can do it, then he may give it a shot."
"You know," Miller said in closing, "Valentino Rossi has been widely described as superhuman when healthy. Why would anyone be surprised that he is superhuman when healing from injury?"
Miller currently works as a trainer in the Athletic Department at Rice University.
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Jul/100709millerrossi.htm
American Dean Miller worked as a physiotherapist in Grand Prix and MotoGP for over twenty years. During that time he worked with riders such as Kenny Roberts, Kenny Roberts Junior, Wayne Rainey, John Kocinski, Eddie Lawson and many others. He was the official physiotherapist for both Team Roberts and later Team Suzuki, wrote a book on training with motocrosser Brad Lackey, and helped countless riders recover from racing injuries both minor and major.
Scores of fans around the globe were surprised to see a photograph surface on-line this week of Valentino Rossi, one taken in late June. In the photo, Rossi, who suffered a reported compound fracture of the tibia and fibula in early June, is standing on his broken leg, talking to a female fan. Rossi later rode a Yamaha WSBK Superbike at Misano essentially a month after his crash and double surgeries. Miller has not worked with Rossi and has no first hand knowledge of Rossi's injury (beyond what he had read on-line at enthusiast sites) or treatment, but has worked with a vast number of riders with broken legs over the years.
Miller wasn't surprised to see Rossi standing on his broken leg so soon and wasn't shocked to learn that he'd tested a Superbike in order to gauge his fitness.
"It's not abnormal for him (Rossi) to be up and walking. In fact, that would be an advisable perspective if he had the treatments that I believe he did," Miller said.
"It's not unusual at all," Miller continued, "his biggest complication would probably be is that he had a fracture that resulted with a puncture through the skin. So, when that happens, you're worried about infection. But if that is clear and the surgeon installed a orthopedic rod in his broken leg, and there are no other issues, I'd suggest that walking and riding four weeks after is not really "early" in my opinion. Two weeks, I might have advised the rider to slow down a little."
"Essentially the rod takes the place of the bone," Miller explained. "It takes the pressure, and helps the bone to heal. In fact, you may want the rider to start walking on it sooner than some think, it helps promote healing, the pressure."
Enthusiasts may have feared the worst given that many still remember the broken tibia and fibula that Honda GP rider Michael Doohan suffered on Friday, June 22 1992 in qualifying for the Dutch TT. Doohan's treatment and recovery were nightmarish with doctors at one point fearing that they may have to amputate his leg.
Miller inferred that Doohan's injury, and also the one that Miguel DuHamel suffered in June of 1998 at Loudon, happened almost in the dark ages in terms of modern surgical technique.
"Michael's injury happened almost twenty years ago," he said. "And sports medicine and orthopedic surgery have come a long way since then. Back then, surgeons were doing hundreds of these procedures a year, whereas now they do thousands of them, and have been doing so for years. Techniques have really improved."
"With Michael's injury, he had issues with compartment syndrome and a lack of blood flow from the knee. He had other issues beyond the bone simply healing. Michael also had bad bruising of the bone, which was another issue. With DuHamel, my understanding is that he also had knee injury and any time you have a joint injury it complicates things. No two injuries are ever the same, of course."
Psychologically, riders feel that the normal rules do not apply, be they speed limits, dating rules or those regarding the length of time needed for the human body to heal from injury.
Ex-Team Roberts trainer Dean Miller says that Rossi's broken leg and that of Michael Doohan are very different.
image: thanks, keith patti
Miller agreed, "You know, they always feel better than they think. All these guys have a tendency to get up and start moving quicker than some feel is prudent. I don't see it being a problem. I read his comments after the test and that he's sore should not be a surprise. He hasn't been using his leg the way he's used to so the ankle will be sore. And he has an existing shoulder injury so he has some other things going on. Whether he can ride at the Sachsenring in a week, I don't know. Who is better at knowing what his limits are than Valentino Rossi? I don't think anybody will doubt his perspective. If he's competitive and feels he can do it, then he may give it a shot."
"You know," Miller said in closing, "Valentino Rossi has been widely described as superhuman when healthy. Why would anyone be surprised that he is superhuman when healing from injury?"
Miller currently works as a trainer in the Athletic Department at Rice University.
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Rossi on track tomorrow at Brno
There has been no official press release, but the news is now confirmed: Valentino Rossi will test tomorrow at Brno with one of the factory Yamaha-Sterilgarda bikes. The same used last week at Misano.
The Italian will test in the afternoon, from 2 to 5pm. Immediately afterward, many are saying, he will hold a press conference. This time the reigning world champion will be using Pirelli evolution tires, allowing curious fans to compare his times with those recorded in today's WSBK race.
Beyond another test of his physical state, it is hard to understand if Valentino is also trying to send some sort of a message. With the latest developments in the rider market there will obviously be some tension in the Yamaha garage when Rossi returns, be it Sunday at the Sachsenring or at a later date. Rather than Rossi being viewed as teammate eager to help Lorenzo win the championship, it is more likely that he will be seen as a thorn in the Spanish rider's side. Even if Jorge has openly stated that he does not want to complicate his championship hopes by getting into a duel with Rossi.
http://www.gpone.com/index.php/en/slider/1279-rossi-domani-in-pista-a-brno.html
There has been no official press release, but the news is now confirmed: Valentino Rossi will test tomorrow at Brno with one of the factory Yamaha-Sterilgarda bikes. The same used last week at Misano.
The Italian will test in the afternoon, from 2 to 5pm. Immediately afterward, many are saying, he will hold a press conference. This time the reigning world champion will be using Pirelli evolution tires, allowing curious fans to compare his times with those recorded in today's WSBK race.
Beyond another test of his physical state, it is hard to understand if Valentino is also trying to send some sort of a message. With the latest developments in the rider market there will obviously be some tension in the Yamaha garage when Rossi returns, be it Sunday at the Sachsenring or at a later date. Rather than Rossi being viewed as teammate eager to help Lorenzo win the championship, it is more likely that he will be seen as a thorn in the Spanish rider's side. Even if Jorge has openly stated that he does not want to complicate his championship hopes by getting into a duel with Rossi.
http://www.gpone.com/index.php/en/slider/1279-rossi-domani-in-pista-a-brno.html
