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BMW SBK Watch Thread

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Decided to start a thread to aggregate and discuss all of the information related to BMW's SBK effort. Redding is currently fanning the flames, which I'm sure BMW are thrilled about. Meanwhile, the lower-profile riders continue to score decent results.

Redding: BMW Didn't Make The Steps We Needed :(

Redding: Current Form "Hard to accept" :(

Redding: BMW Too Far Away :(

Redding: BMW "Locked In" To Current Problems :(

Redding: Nothing Has Changed At BMW Despite Assen Top 5 :(

Redding: I'm Riding A F***king Alligator With A Hole In The Tire :(

This is one of the most intense motorsports meltdowns of all time. Definitely need to watch and see if the tide turns for Redding or BMW or both.
 
I've just about had it with this whiny prick.
First the weight, then the tyre and do not get me started on that fuzz on his neck
We can't have him talk like that, act like that. Can't have that.
Some people are starting to think that he is demonstrating a failure to show appreciation.
I don't know, not me, you know my blood pressure, but someone should give this kid a little scolding. We'll put the crimean in his spot and then thats that. Send him to oulton park or whatever the .....
 
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The most interesting thing within the BMW-Redding situation is that Redding is shocked that the bike doesn't have race winning pace.

BMW have attracted top talent throughout the years. The problem has always been the bike, and the relative lack of experience of the team.

I'm happy BMW are going for it, but they either chose the wrong guy to build a team around or they told him some tall tales during the interviewing process......or maybe Redding's manager sold him out for a nice vacation villa.
 
Well Scott Redding…….

The thing with showing early potential and having a good manager get you into top teams is that after all the promise, potential, etc etc.…..wait for it….

that person has to do some real winning of the big points.

One fastest lap and a couple of podiums don’t count in MotoGP. Some victories but no championship with the factory WSB Ducati team and you’re up and out.

Add the whining to the lack of results, he probably can’t get anybody to go to dinner with him now.
 
https://www.speedweek.com/sbk/news/191451/BMW-...-Scott-Redding-betont-An-mir-liegt-es-nicht.html

"I'm a proven race winner, this isn't my fault"

"I don't care what people think, I have proven my potential. I know what I do, I sleep well at night"
Cant be arsed to translate everything atm, but this is glorious. A never ending "it's up to bmw, I'm the ....... man".

Back to Cadwell park with you, you arrogant dumb .....
 
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He's burned through many manufacturers now. I dont know what tempted him to move from Ducati to BMW. Just like Bautista and Honda.

In 2019 I was having a debate online with someone about that and they assured me that Honda had a new bike (which by mid 2019 they hadn't even announced, let alone launched and tested) and it was going to be a world beater because it would be a V4 based on the RCV. I was unhappy to be proven right and sure enough, 2 years later, Bautista has gone back to winning with Ducati.

BMW will get there, like they did in the early 2010's, but sadly I don;t think Redding will be the guy to do it.
 
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"I've adapted to the bike and I know what I want. Now the team has to work in the right direction and give me what I'm asking for."

I mean, prior to Baz crashing out, Laverty being injured, and then Raz and Rea gift wrapping a top-5 for Redding, he's been beaten at most races and tests by satellite bikes and or his teammate. He was beaten by the BMW test rider at Aragon.

Redding is at the bottom of the BMW barrel right now. He obviously hasn't adapted to the bike. He needs to start beating the other riders before anyone is going to pay attention. Maybe BMW should not ignore him, since Redding is familiar with class-leading equipment, but that's the way it goes.
 
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#22 said:
He's burned through many manufacturers now. I dont know what tempted him to move from Ducati to BMW. Just like Bautista and Honda.

In 2019 I was having a debate online with someone about that and they assured me that Honda had a new bike (which by mid 2019 they hadn't even announced, let alone launched and tested) and it was going to be a world beater because it would be a V4 based on the RCV. I was unhappy to be proven right and sure enough, 2 years later, Bautista has gone back to winning with Ducati.

BMW will get there, like they did in the early 2010's, but sadly I don;t think Redding will be the guy to do it.
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Honda may have shot themselves in the foot with the SP. Not only did they retain an even-firing-order inline 4, but they increased the bore to 81mm, which has made the power delivery more aggressive. BMW may be in the same boat with 80mm bore measurement.

Kawasaki have been competitive with 76mm bore. Granted, Kawasaki throw more resources at the team and electronics, and they have Rea. Engine dimensions may not be the contributing factor.

Going forward, it will probably be necessary in Superbike, as it is in MotoGP, to use uneven firing orders for tractability. Plus, the national championships don't have millions to through at data technicians and programmers.

Long run, I hope several manufacturers retain 1000cc engines with even firing order and inline 4 configuration. They are a staple of modern motorcycling and good on the roads. Just setup a Supersport 1000 championship for them. Keep the steel con rods. Drop the power a bit, spec ECU with no traction, and go racing.
 
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The test that BMW are allowed to do will be telling.
Vdm is the only rider that rode the m1000 for all of 2021.
Let's hope his leg holds up well enough to give good Feedback on the evolution of the bike.
I remember hyping him up on here and I currently live in Bavaria.
This kid owes me
 
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WorldSBK: BMW ‘not pleased’ with position, Shaun Muir defends Scott Redding

Not much meat on this bone. Just more depth to the story.

The team is putting a nanny mode on the bike for Scott so the power is not too scary. Also working on a clutch package that will help Scott start better.

Article claims the expectations were merely for the factory team to make the bike competitive for the 2023 season. Apparently, Scott has much different and perhaps unrealistic expectations for his BMW campaign this season. He is already in full blown panic.
 
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Muir Gets Technical

Long story short, BMW are having issues with the electronics. No surprise since everyone is making roughly the same power. Muir also reckons the bike needs to get longer and lower to work with the tires. Chassis parts are incoming but no one knows when exactly.

Promises major improvement at Donnington
 
Redding: Mikhalchik Not The Correct Substitute For VdM

Scott now making recommendations for substitute riders. Maybe Bongers should just let him run the team.

Not sure if Redding is just the victim of thinking his remarks to reporters are off the record, or if he really just walks into the press core and gives his opinion on random team matters.

Anyway, the dumpster fire continues blazing
 
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