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What does a guy have to do to have his season rated at least among the best of all time?



If setting the highest points total of all time, never finishing lower than fourth, winning nine races, and beating Rossi on his own bike - along with Stoner and Pedrosa, too - doesn't cut it......what the feck does??

Thats easy, have the name Rossi.
 
Barry can correct me if im wrong, but he did not start this thread asking if this was the most entertaining season. He was asking if this could be considered the best season on the grounds of breaking the points record against what many will consider the toughest competition the series has ever had.



No correcting there, thats perfectly put.
 
Barry can correct me if im wrong, but he did not start this thread asking if this was the most entertaining season. He was asking if this could be considered the best season on the grounds of breaking the points record against what many will consider the toughest competition the series has ever had. Now follow me real close, because this is where it gets complicated for you. The points record he surpassed was set in 2008, so until last Sunday, that season was the best of all time, points wise. Now Lorenzo has the best season of all time, points wise. Get it. I know its been a rough season for you, and it only got worse in the last 2 days, but your going to have to get used to having some Moto Gp records in the books without Rossi's name beside them. It will be tough , but as you grow up, you will look back and laugh at the thought of worshiping another human being. Its a stage everybody goes thru, Beatles fans, Elvis fans,New Kids on the Block fans, Justin Bieber fans. Go steal one of your moms Xanax, watch an episode of Glee, and it will pass, i promise.



wrong again hilbilly



My point which you missed, is that nobody has ever stated that 2008 was the best season ever in regards to anything previously, because as with 2010 is simply wasn't. Accept it, hate less and move on
 
wrong again hilbilly



My point which you missed, is that nobody has ever stated that 2008 was the best season ever in regards to anything previously, because as with 2010 is simply wasn't. Accept it, hate less and move on

And the point that your obviously missing, even according to the guy who started it, is the thread was based on highest point total ever, which automatically makes 2008 part of the conversation, since you know, it was the highest until last Sunday. Get it yet? Again, we are not talking about entertainment value, or what is your favorite Rossi moment.
 
Again, we are not talking about entertainment value, or what is your favorite Rossi moment.



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This is Talpa you are dealing with here, he will never understand the concepts you are disclosing there
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I was watching a documentary, with my kids, the other day, and in it a young girl exclaims "my giny tingles"( when a boy-band were performingon stage ) .......... I thought it reminded me of Talpa, and what he must see as a best ever season
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Such folk will never get it, which is sad cos it makes you wonder what they got out of Rossi's achievement of 2008. Which to me had great significance cos it showed that Rossi not only got it back from Stoner 2007 ( who also numerically topped the charts ), but Rossi also made a point of topping Stoners alltime best points. And given that both those seasons were against some pretty amazing competition, where not just "throw away" or "got lucky" seasons.
 
And the point that your obviously missing, even according to the guy who started it, is the thread was based on highest point total ever, which automatically makes 2008 part of the conversation, since you know, it was the highest until last Sunday. Get it yet? Again, we are not talking about entertainment value, or what is your favorite Rossi moment.





Yes and the guy that started it is a moron, feel free to continue to agree with him.......its suits you.
 
Yes and the guy that started it is a moron, feel free to continue to agree with him.......its suits you.

When your proven wrong, you lash out that you can interpret what he was thinking and saying, better than he can. What a child.
 
Yes and the guy that started it is a moron, feel free to continue to agree with him.......its suits you.



Well I bet I scored higher than you in any Australian education tests Talp. ....... wonder where that leaves you, if indeed a moron beat you?



I've had some pretty good jobs in my past too ...... for a moron
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What do you do for a crust Talp?



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Such folk also tend to call any person they feel intellectually threatened by a moron.
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I realise this is a very upsetting time for you but in all honesty perhps you would be better stepping away from things you see as confrontational with your thoughts, at the moment. Your replies are not coming across as very well considered indeed, which is probably highly counterproductive to what is your end cause.
 
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I was watching a documentary, with my kids, the other day, and in it a young girl exclaims "my giny tingles"( when a boy-band were performingon stage ) .......... I thought it reminded me of Talpa, and what he must see as a best ever season
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Such folk will never get it, which is sad cos it makes you wonder what they got out of Rossi's achievement of 2008. Which to me had great significance cos it showed that Rossi not only got it back from Stoner 2007 ( who also numerically topped the charts ), but Rossi also made a point of topping Stoners alltime best points. And given that both those seasons were against some pretty amazing competition, where not just "throw away" or "got lucky" seasons.

I think that may be Talpa's problem, her giny didnt get to tingle but twice this year.
 
Well I bet I scored higher than you in any Australian education tests Talp. ....... wonder where that leaves you, if indeed a moron beat you?



I've had some pretty good jobs in my past too ...... for a moron
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What do you do for a crust Talp?



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Such folk also tend to call any person they feel intellectually threatened by a moron.
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I realise this is a very upsetting time for you but in all honesty perhps you would be better stepping away from things you see as confrontational with your thoughts, at the moment. Your replies are not coming across as very well considered indeed, which is probably highly counterproductive to what is your end cause.



talk about giny tingles, look at all the posts from out of the woodwork when Stoner does anything other than crash!



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continue being morons, it's quite entertaining
 
talk about giny tingles, look at all the posts from out of the woodwork when Stoner does anything other than crash!



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continue being morons, it's quite entertaining

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talk about giny tingles, look at all the posts from out of the woodwork when Stoner does anything other than crash!



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continue being morons, it's quite entertaining





Not sure what you mean there you need to check my post dates
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What should I be posting about Stoners crashes ?
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What do you do for a crust Talpa?
 
Very entertaining fellas.
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Talps what are the top 5 seasons of all time in ur mind?
 
Very entertaining fellas.
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Talps what are the top 5 seasons of all time in ur mind?



1. Doohan 1997....dominance



2. Hayden 2006....entertainment



3. Rossi 2005....ruthless



4. Rainy 1992...brilliant



5. Rossi 2001...entertainment
 
My point which you missed, is that nobody has ever stated that 2008 was the best season ever in regards to anything previously, because as with 2010 is simply wasn't. Accept it, hate less and move on



2008 was the best season ever by points total, that is a fact. 2010 has now surpassed that, fact. The opinion that neither of these is the best season of all time with all things considered is acceptable, but that is the point of this discussion.



1. Doohan 1997....dominance



2. Hayden 2006....entertainment



3. Rossi 2005....ruthless



4. Rainy 1992...brilliant



5. Rossi 2001...entertainment



Good list, please ellaborate about what made you put 2005 in that list?
 
Good list, please ellaborate about what made you put 2005 in that list?



The way in which Rossi broke Sete that year has to go down as one of the biggest physiological demolitions in the modern era, in any sport, Sete was very quick that year and the Honda was a superb machine. The countless times that Rossi passed Sete on the last lap whilst setting the fastest lap of the race cemented Sete's eventual fate. I believe this season, along with 08 to a degree, really highlighted Rossi's extremely ruthless nature.



Couple this with the return to Laguna, with Turkey and China, made for a great season.
 
And the point that your obviously missing, even according to the guy who started it, is the thread was based on highest point total ever, which automatically makes 2008 part of the conversation, since you know, it was the highest until last Sunday. Get it yet? Again, we are not talking about entertainment value, or what is your favorite Rossi moment.



Didn't have time earlier, other than to point out the obvious, so here we go....





2008 was the previous points record, now it has been surpassed by 10 points, yet no one has ever mentioned 2008 as the best season ever, even Rossi fans. Simple. You brought it up in an attempt to ridicule Rossi fans, yet again. Just as with 2010, its simply not in the hunt for that rather ambiguous title.



There was no thread stating that 2008 was the Best season of all time, and it wasn't even brought much in this one, despite it being the previous highest points tally ever, that's the argument.



I'll leave you with a simple question, and think hard on it as the 'correct' answer sums it all up........



If Rossi broke his own points record this year, do you think that Baz would have started a similar thread?
 
Coming 3rd in the championship and scoring wins and podiums by Rossi despite his injury can hardly be described as relegating him to the "gutter". But here in lies the problem, when its pointed out that Rossi got beat, its taken as such great offense as to be characterized as hating. Now look at the alternative, the opposition is not only refusing to except the reality of simply getting beat by the best most consistent rider, but then must extrapolate that this would not have been the outcome with a healthy Rossi. But the fact is this is not true. Second, you say Rossi rode hurt, what riders do not ride with injury? Rossi returned very fast, but his leg injury at some point was healthy healed enough for him to get podiums. At that point he's on par as far as health to the acceptable standard. Lorenzo came in hurt to the season, but I'm sure he could have broadcasted all season that his wrist was just not one hundred percent. BTW, if being hurt is your go to, then consider that at Qatar was the only time Rossi beat Lorenzo. If you are talking about the shoulder injury, once Rossi battle for the podium at Motegi and scored the victory at Sepang, we could pretty much dispel that this was of significant hindrance.

Thats just not true ! Whats seen as "hating " is when the haters refuse to acknowledge certain facts for Rossi's non ideal season. Take for example when povol refused to acknowledge rossi's shoulder injury and the effect that would have on his lap times at certain tracks. Pov actually claimed rossi was using his shoulder as an excuse to gain leverage against yamaha. While the haters acknowledge rossi did break his leg and miss 4 races they do not acknowledge the recuperation period after his return when calculating the possible points difference. They rightly say that even if rossi won the 4 missed races he would still have finished behind lorenzo, they do not calculate the possible points missed because of recuperation. I don't read anything from rossi fans that lorenzo is not a worthy champ and would have quite possibly won regardless, quite the contrary. What i do read is the known haters omitting certain facts when trying to fish for negitive responces from rossi fans.
 
The way in which Rossi broke Sete that year has to go down as one of the biggest physiological demolitions in the modern era, in any sport, Sete was very quick that year and the Honda was a superb machine. The countless times that Rossi passed Sete on the last lap whilst setting the fastest lap of the race cemented Sete's eventual fate. I believe this season, along with 08 to a degree, really highlighted Rossi's extremely ruthless nature.



I agree in part with that, because 2005 provided the end of what had been a 3 year duel between those two riders. However i would argue that Lorenzo overcoming Rossi from within his own team is just as ruthless and significant. his domination was at a similar level and against a field of riders who recently have been far more successful than the riders Rossi was beating in 05.



I'll leave you with a simple question, and think hard on it as the 'correct' answer sums it all up........



If Rossi broke his own points record this year, do you think that Baz would have started a similar thread?



That question is not at all relevant. Baz's motives for starting this thread may not have been objective or good natured but that doesn't mean the discussion isn't valid. The length of this thread alone shows that it is.



they do not calculate the possible points missed because of recuperation. I don't read anything from rossi fans that lorenzo is not a worthy champ and would have quite possibly won regardless, quite the contrary. What i do read is the known haters omitting certain facts when trying to fish for negitive responces from rossi fans.



It is not a fact that Rossi would have scored more points without breaking his leg or hurting his shoulder. I don't think anyone is ignoring the fact that Rossi took time to get better, but it is not something you can calculate. It has been pointed out before but Motogp riders are rarely at 100% and it is hard enough to gauge the impact of their injuries without trying to calculate a points diference by making up alternative race results.
 

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