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jorge lorenzo.

and maybe also following casey around.

whenever i hear an interview with ben and those 2 are mentioned it seems like he hasn't got the self esteem to compete with them, almost like an inferiority complex
 
jorge lorenzo.

and maybe also following casey around.

whenever i hear an interview with ben and those 2 are mentioned it seems like he hasn't got the self esteem to compete with them, almost like an inferiority complex



Was thinking that too, it must be so frustrating to a rider like Ben, who is used to winning, then come up against the brick wall trying to get past Stoner, Pedro and Lorenzo.



But then again ......... there was that Assen ride that was great!



Who knows whats going on with him.



Another thought I had some time ago was when that dutch team boss said something akin to a threat about Bens chances of staying with Yamaha ........ Ben seemed to go downhill generally since then.





Anyway he's still top ten isn't he ...... so thats something.
 
Was thinking that too, it must be so frustrating to a rider like Ben, who is used to winning, then come up against the brick wall trying to get past Stoner, Pedro and Lorenzo.



But then again ......... there was that Assen ride that was great!



Who knows whats going on with him.



Another thought I had some time ago was when that dutch team boss said something akin to a threat about Bens chances of staying with Yamaha ........ Ben seemed to go downhill generally since then.





Anyway he's still top ten isn't he ...... so thats something.

He was used to winning cause in AMA he had no real competition, and in WSBK it is a bunch of rider that are young and in experienced or those that couldnt win in GPs.....



So Now Ben is up against the real cream of the crop, and so far he is coming up short on goods.......so maybe he isnt as great as his previous results would suggest.....



Ben really has to either accept his status as B level rider, or really step up and deliver with wins (not 2nds or 3rds) but wins...
 
He was used to winning cause in AMA he had no real competition, and in WSBK it is a bunch of rider that are young and in experienced or those that couldnt win in GPs.....



So Now Ben is up against the real cream of the crop, and so far he is coming up short on goods.......so maybe he isnt as great as his previous results would suggest.....



Ben really has to either accept his status as B level rider, or really step up and deliver with wins (not 2nds or 3rds) but wins...



Spies has been on the top of the podium twice as many times as Rossi over the last two seasons.
 
Watched some 2010 races and the Spies i saw back then was totally different from the current Spies. So much moree confidence, especially when dicing with others. Really thinking forward about setting up passes and really showing aggression in everything he did.
 
Watched some 2010 races and the Spies i saw back then was totally different from the current Spies. So much moree confidence, especially when dicing with others. Really thinking forward about setting up passes and really showing aggression in everything he did.



I noticed this as well.
 
Ben needs to .... can Houseworth. He cannot set up a GP bike that is capable of running at the front on a regular basis. Every once in a while, he will luck up on a setting and Ben goes good. Way more often than not, the setup is .....
 
Ben needs to .... can Houseworth. He cannot set up a GP bike that is capable of running at the front on a regular basis. Every once in a while, he will luck up on a setting and Ben goes good. Way more often than not, the setup is .....



I've said it before ........ there is a good team available after valencia .......... though I have heard that Honda want them ....
 
I noticed this as well.

Riding these things is a fine balance, and the balance involved in being able to ride them must be a fine one as well. No one would have predicted after the last race last year or most of the preseason testing that he would have had such as season as he has had so far. I think those crashes and in particular being sent out on the bike that was fixed but actually wasn't has totally shot his confidence, and he doesn't seem to be able to ride the new tyre either. Nobody in the current field with the possible exception of jorge lorenzo seems to be completely adaptable to anything.
 
Spies has been on the top of the podium twice as many times as Rossi over the last two seasons.



As he has only been on the top of the podium once in his life, managing to do that twice as many times as Rossi is a fair feat and one worth investigating.
 
The guy can ride at the front. He is having some management issues now whether they be personal, technical or both he has a chance to sort them out before seasons end. Even if he doesn't get it done until the last few races.



What does seem to be the case is that a riders 'luck', good or bad, is inversely proportional to their popularity.



For example: Ben Spies is a great rider, having a run of bad luck, even though he has been beaten at every race by his team-mate and at all but one race, by the satellite Yamahas.



Bradley Smith however, is ...., apparently. Because he is always in the top ten and consistently beats his team-mate, who is not even in the top twenty. This despite riding the least-developed bike in the paddock.



Bautista is .... too - only good for a tow. No talent at all.



Barbera, another tow trucker. Why does he even have a ride?



Rossi - best to leave that one alone.



Hayden? All those years and only a single world championship to show for it - ......



For some reason all of those have perfect race-winning bikes but are crap riders, whereas Spies is a race-winning rider with a faulty bike.



Or the reality - they are all capable of circulating within a few tenths of each other, given equal machinery, and the difference between most of the GP riders is more to do with which bike they ride and which team they ride for.



That being said, Spies is on a top bike with a top team and is riding like a bunny. This weekend was perfect - good weather, new tyres, top bike, no dramas, no injuries - but he blew it.



Sorry, regardless of the state of his head, his crew, his Mum, he isn't doing the job and doesn't deserve a factory ride. It would be interesting to see how he handles a CRT bike.
 
so spies feels sick...sucks for him and i believe him (so kudos for racing these bikes when you're not well) , but he needs to get a result ASAP. still no new contract for him ,he needs to be on that podium at laguna.
 
so spies feels sick...sucks for him and i believe him (so kudos for racing these bikes when you're not well) , but he needs to get a result ASAP. still no new contract for him ,he needs to be on that podium at laguna.

He may be sick but it is yet another excuse for not performing......while a guy on a similar but B team bike and with still having a broken leg came 5 places ahead of him,......sorry but if he was so ill he could not perform then he should not have started or he should have parked it and gone to bed.....
 
i'm not defending spies here, even if he deserves my protection this time
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i've used up all my spies fanboy apologies this year(i confess i tend to be a little less than objective with him from time to time as I've become a big fan in 09). perform at laguna and get that contract or leave, really as simple as that.

can't be that he has bad luck 10 times in a row and even if he has...better get rid of a rider thats a magnet to bad luck
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i'm not defending spies here, even if he deserves my protection this time
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i've used up all my spies fanboy apologies this year(i confess i tend to be a little less than objective with him from time to time as I've become a big fan in 09). perform at laguna and get that contract or leave, really as simple as that.

can't be that he has bad luck 10 times in a row and even if he has...better get rid of a rider thats a magnet to bad luck
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By perform you mean win right? cause 2nds and 3rds are B team results nowadays.....

And lets be honest if he can only perfom at home then hes not much of an A level rider really.....
 
He must have his head in between some amazing set of legs, cause his other head is not 100% on the bike.



What a waste.
 
i'm not defending spies here, even if he deserves my protection this time
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i've used up all my spies fanboy apologies this year(i confess i tend to be a little less than objective with him from time to time as I've become a big fan in 09). perform at laguna and get that contract or leave, really as simple as that.

can't be that he has bad luck 10 times in a row and even if he has...better get rid of a rider thats a magnet to bad luck
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I used all my excuses as well,like you i was very impressed in 09 and 10 was good last year was ok but i thought with a move to 1000 he would rise to the job but its gone very wrong and weather he wins at home or not he has got to go.
 

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