Ban On Traction Control

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (IsraeliRacer @ Mar 30 2007, 07:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport...one/6511907.stm

In which part of the "improving safety" manual did the bosses of F1 get this idea from? o.0
We've been discussing it in the F1 thread so i'm not going to repeat myself, but yeah it's hardly making F1 safer taking away traction control. Even the best of drivers will make often mistakes if my logic is right, and we'll possibly even see more of those old dreadful crashes again. On the other hand, it could be a good idea and the driver's may adapt to it very quickly. Would this slow them down though, because of driving more safely?

I personally think its a good move. Driving around in 200mph+ jets on wheels is never going to be a safe bet. But all these driver aids where beginning to take away the skill and talent needed to drive these monsters.

Good move. It won't actually make that much of a difference in terms of safety I don't think, just that more drivers will spin. Now bike racing needs to follow suit.

FINALLY SOME GOOD NEWS!!!!!!

I've been waiting for this to happen for a while now.
Should be more interesting imo without the traction control. I don't think it will slow down the drivers. I hope not, it's really gonna be interesting, we for sure gonna witness more mistakes being made by the drivers, but that's a good thing. It makes it more real..and therefore better imo. The driver's skill will count more, and it should be like that!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Franco Fangio @ Mar 31 2007, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>FINALLY SOME GOOD NEWS!!!!!!

I've been waiting for this to happen for a while now.
Should be more interesting imo without the traction control. I don't think it will slow down the drivers. I hope not, it's really gonna be interesting, we for sure gonna witness more mistakes being made by the drivers, but that's a good thing. It makes it more real..and therefore better imo. The driver's skill will count more, and it should be like that!!
It will in a sense because it will slow the cars down, which isn't a bad thing at the moment I don't think, it should make things more competetive. I don't think with the current power of the cars that all of it could be put onto the track, so the teams will probably have to restrict the engines just to make them driveable.

The one who will probably benifit most from this is Jenson Button, who arguably uses the least amount of TC with his driving style. I know we say it every year, but maybe 08 could be his chance..

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Orrmate @ Mar 31 2007, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It will in a sense because it will slow the cars down, which isn't a bad thing at the moment I don't think, it should make things more competetive. I don't think with the current power of the cars that all of it could be put onto the track, so the teams will probably have to restrict the engines just to make them driveable.

The one who will probably benifit most from this is Jenson Button, who arguably uses the least amount of TC with his driving style. I know we say it every year, but maybe 08 could be his chance..
Would for sure be nice for him and the Poms
But I just think he won't win a title IF he stays where he is. Don't see Honda improving that much. I hope they do, but I'm just not sure whether they will have a winning car next season. Who knows, they might surprise me..

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Franco Fangio @ Mar 31 2007, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Would for sure be nice for him and the Poms
But I just think he won't win a title IF he stays where he is. Don't see Honda improving that much. I hope they do, but I'm just not sure whether they will have a winning car next season. Who knows, they might surprise me..
I think they could in 2008, possibly. We have to remember that they've just changed technical director, and this years car is almost a new concept to the RA106, so this year could just be adapting to the new design and developing it, slowly but surely. Maybe next year is when we will see the real pace of Honda. I hope so anyway

This just in:

The ban on traction control in 2008 is unlikely to lead to dramatically better racing, even though it will help those drivers who have more finesse with the throttle.

That is the view of leading technical figures, who think that the ban will not add much to the spectacle of Formula One - although it will hurt those drivers who are unable to look after their rear tyres through good throttle control.

Williams technical director Sam Michael told autosport.com: "The drivers will have to be more gentle with the throttle. They are really going to have to learn to feel it like they used to. So it will be like before Barcelona 2001 (when traction control returned).

"But the racing will not be much different. There may be a few more mistakes and the drivers will have to take care of the rear tyres – so those who can feel the rear tyres and the throttle will shine.

"But I would be very surprised if the racing will be more exciting to be honest."

Spyker chief technology officer Mike Gascoyne added: "As always I don't think it will make any difference to the racing at the front of the grid."

Michael claims that the teams are going to have to work pretty hard to revise their cars to accommodate the ban – because traction control has become such an integrated part of modern design.

"There will be a lot of work on our part as all the systems now work in conjunction with traction control," he explained. "It is true it has become cheap to do the system, as we have been developing it for many years, but you cannot deny it does take away from the drivers.

"There is full automation now – so the drivers just go flat on the throttle. No finesse is required right now, as electronics do everything for them."

But despite uncertainty about the impact of the traction control ban, both Michael and Gascoyne are confident that the introduction of standard ECUs will ensure there is no return to the cheating accusations that flew around the last time traction control was banned.

"With the standard ECU it really made sense to get rid of traction control," said Michael. "I suppose it is the right way to go, as there will be no more cheating stories."

Gascoyne added: "Theoretically with a standard ECU there should be no chance of anyone cheating as in the past. Also the FIA now have access to all the data from the car so it would be much more difficult than it was in the past. But never say never..."

The ban on TC sounds like a good idea but i doubt much will change, the best drivers will remain the same. Plus the introduction of a control ECU is diapointing becuase it once again dilutes the technical and engineering aspect of F1, which is one of the things i love it for.

Also, the reason why F1 racing is so poor is the stupid downforce systems they have on the cars. They need to reduce the downforce permited and have systems similar to the GP2 series, which promotes passing brilliantly.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (IsraeliRacer @ Mar 31 2007, 03:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport...one/6511907.stm

In which part of the "improving safety" manual did the bosses of F1 get this idea from? o.0

from moseley and eccelstone's . and if this continues, there'll be more crashes next year! race next year will look like this: lights go out, cars go, 10 cars crash on 1st turn, safety car comes out, after 5 laps of clean up, restart, then another 10 cars crash, safety car agen. only 2 cars left. and that will be the shortest race ever. its an exagerration but, you never know....

why don't they just ban speed? seems that's what they're trying to do, really. just a thought.