Average Riders in MotoGP

Who do you think should not be in MotoGP?

There sure is alot of dead wood;

De Puniet (Serial Crasher)
Anthony West (250 Reject)
Alex Hoffman (Who?)
Chris Vermuelen (Only great in wet, dunno)
Kurtis Roberts (I know his surname well)
Loris Capirossi (finished)
Makoto Tamada (finished)
Carlos Checa (finished)
Colin Edwards (never started)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(an4rew @ Aug 29 2007, 02:09 PM) [snapback]87353[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Who do you think should not be in MotoGP?

There sure is alot of dead wood;

De Puniet (Serial Crasher)
Anthony West (250 Reject)
Alex Hoffman (Who?)
Chris Vermuelen (Only great in wet, dunno)
Kurtis Roberts (I know his surname well)
Loris Capirossi (finished)
Makoto Tamada (finished)
Carlos Checa (finished)
Colin Edwards (never started)


That's a bit strong!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(an4rew @ Aug 29 2007, 02:09 PM) [snapback]87353[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Who do you think should not be in MotoGP?

There sure is alot of dead wood;

De Puniet (Serial Crasher)
Anthony West (250 Reject)
Alex Hoffman (Who?)
Chris Vermuelen (Only great in wet, dunno)
Kurtis Roberts (I know his surname well)
Loris Capirossi (finished)
Makoto Tamada (finished)
Carlos Checa (finished)
Colin Edwards (never started)

I think this post sux! Some of the things you've bracketed are laughable!

I dont think anyone respects a thing you say an4rew.. Honestly, this has to be one of the worst topics ive ever seen..

The 250 reject and serial crasher look set to be in GP's again for 08, cant be doing to badly...

If CV is so bad in the wet, why did he get second place at Laguna and beat Rossi in the dry at Brno recently for 5th place? 3rd best Bridgestone runner..

Capirossi, Tamada and Checa are all former race winners.. Edwards is a double WSBK champ and multiple GP podium getter..

Hoffman and Roberts are about the only two who belong on that list.. Do you even watch racing? Or just post rubbish?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(an4rew @ Aug 29 2007, 05:09 AM) [snapback]87353[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Who do you think should not be in MotoGP?

There sure is alot of dead wood;

De Puniet (Serial Crasher)
Anthony West (250 Reject)
Alex Hoffman (Who?)
Chris Vermuelen (Only great in wet, dunno)
Kurtis Roberts (I know his surname well)
Loris Capirossi (finished)
Makoto Tamada (finished)
Carlos Checa (finished)
Colin Edwards (never started)


Think deeper and a lot of these people actually have places here. In my opininion you have been very very harsh.

DePuniet (fast, talented and on his way up)

West (quickly got to grips with big bikes and showing steady improvement)

Vermuelen (4th in the championship, getting better all the time, beat Rossi last time out)

Roberts (don't rate him but i'd like to see him on a real motorbike)

Capirossi (Having a rough time but worthy of one more chance, has podiumed this year, a change of scenary might do him good)

Colin Edwards (Top level development rider for Michelin and Yamaha, much needed experience in a young team next season)

- Hayden - He is the GW Bush of MotoGP
- Checa - Spanish is his only real talent
- Barros - Was great back in 50s
- Tamada - Japan's most embarising asset
- DePuniet - French, but what else can he do?
- Hopkins - ROTFL, my sides hurt from laughing at his mediocrioty
- Elias - He's a Budget Pedrosa, and rides to his price tag.
- Guintoli- Shane Byrne with a French Accent
- Nakano - One of a long list of 250 greats that made a very average big class rider.
- Capirossi - His greatest ride is Ingrid.
- Hoffman - Like somene else said, who?
- Roberts - Ginger, what more needs to be said?

I am harsh, but this is my view only, and you may not agree with it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(an4rew @ Aug 29 2007, 05:09 AM) [snapback]87353[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Who do you think should not be in MotoGP?

There sure is alot of dead wood;

De Puniet (Serial Crasher)
Anthony West (250 Reject)
Alex Hoffman (Who?)
Chris Vermuelen (Only great in wet, dunno)
Kurtis Roberts (I know his surname well)
Loris Capirossi (finished)
Makoto Tamada (finished)
Carlos Checa (finished)
Colin Edwards (never started)
Andrew, define the 'average' part, would you?


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MigsAngel @ Aug 29 2007, 11:07 AM) [snapback]87402[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
- Hayden - He is the GW Bush of MotoGP
- Checa - Spanish is his only real talent
- Barros - Was great back in 50s
- Tamada - Japan's most embarising asset
- DePuniet - French, but what else can he do?
- Hopkins - ROTFL, my sides hurt from laughing at his mediocrioty
- Elias - He's a Budget Pedrosa, and rides to his price tag.
- Guintoli- Shane Byrne with a French Accent
- Nakano - One of a long list of 250 greats that made a very average big class rider.
- Capirossi - His greatest ride is Ingrid.
- Hoffman - Like somene else said, who?
- Roberts - Ginger, what more needs to be said?

I am harsh, but this is my view only, and you may not agree with it.
Angel, you gotta be kidding us, or else you're 12 years old. Hayden is the Bush of motoGP, explain that one. Hopkins, mediocre? The Capirossi reference is particularly adolescent.

Do any of you guys actually watch racing? I'd say brush up on your facts before any more spurious outbursts.

Angel, quit with the rude and unnecessary comments, you might offend someone.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(skidmark @ Aug 29 2007, 11:30 AM) [snapback]87408[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Angel, you gotta be kidding us, or else you're 12 years old. Hayden is the Bush of motoGP, explain that one. Hopkins, mediocre? The Capirossi reference is particularly adolescent.

Do any of you guys actually watch racing? I'd say brush up on your facts before any more spurious outbursts.

Angel, quit with the rude and unnecessary comments, you might offend someone.


How was I rude? Who would I offend? Are you deLoris?

The most average, in intelligence (and therefore skill), president America has ever had is GW Bush. This is acknowledged by Mr Bush as having been a completely C student everywhere he went to school. Hayden is the most average, in Skill, champ MotogGP has ever had, hence the metaphor.

Hopkins results over the past 6 years are mediocre in my opinion. This is especially highlighted by the fact that he has only gotten his 1st podium this year. You can blame Suzuki for his mediocrity all you like, but at the end of the day HE has to ride the thing and give feedback to the technicians on how to make it better.

I thought the Capirossi reference was particularly flattering to him actually.

Lighten up!

Don't think there are average riders at motogp. Their riding skills are very similar.

What maybe difference a lot is their ability to help the team find the best setup for each circuit.

Doesn't say much for MotoGP championship Migs if you lump the current World Champion into the average riders category.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(MigsAngel @ Aug 29 2007, 11:07 AM) [snapback]87402[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
- Hayden - He is the GW Bush of MotoGP
- Checa - Spanish is his only real talent
- Barros - Was great back in 50s
- Tamada - Japan's most embarising asset
- DePuniet - French, but what else can he do?
- Hopkins - ROTFL, my sides hurt from laughing at his mediocrioty
- Elias - He's a Budget Pedrosa, and rides to his price tag.
- Guintoli- Shane Byrne with a French Accent
- Nakano - One of a long list of 250 greats that made a very average big class rider.
- Capirossi - His greatest ride is Ingrid.
- Hoffman - Like somene else said, who?
- Roberts - Ginger, what more needs to be said?

I am harsh, but this is my view only, and you may not agree with it.



lol not that i agree with everything here, but its funny.

i dont agree with hayden. no. he's not a consistent winner, granted, but he's a consistent second (if you exclude this year and all the problems). it takes a good rider to be that consistent. hayden isnt the best rider out there though, thats quite correct but he's better than others on the field.

checa is a good development rider but thats all unfortunately

de puniet has improved this year, when he manages to stay on the thing

guintoli has done well considering the bike he's on and its his rookie year


one person i do agree with is hopkins. why does everyone rate him? he's a joke

Vermuelen.. average???

I don't think so!! I certainly don't consider anyone who makes it to Grand Prix level to be average

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Orrmate @ Aug 29 2007, 03:51 PM) [snapback]87448[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>

I don't think so!! I certainly don't consider anyone who makes it to Grand Prix level to be average


+1

Regarding the topic value:

The most average, in intelligence (and therefore skill), president America has ever had is GW Bush. This is acknowledged by Mr Bush as having been a completely C student everywhere he went to school. Hayden is the most average, in Skill, champ MotogGP has ever had, hence the metaphor.

Bush might not be a smooth double talking politician that we are used to but given the circumstances of his Presidency,i think he has done an admirable job and has stuck to his guns,Literally.Im glad he was our Pesident when 9-11 happened because it afforded him the spring board to do what was needed about radical Islam and that Chihuahua that leads Iran is getting ready to witness the skills of W.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(povol @ Aug 29 2007, 02:25 PM) [snapback]87462[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
The most average, in intelligence (and therefore skill), president America has ever had is GW Bush. This is acknowledged by Mr Bush as having been a completely C student everywhere he went to school. Hayden is the most average, in Skill, champ MotogGP has ever had, hence the metaphor.

Bush might not be a smooth double talking politician that we are used to but given the circumstances of his Presidency,i think he has done an admirable job and has stuck to his guns,Literally.Im glad he was our Pesident when 9-11 happened because it afforded him the spring board to do what was needed about radical Islam and that Chihuahua that leads Iran is getting ready to witness the skills of W.


Yep Bush is of average intelligence (you seen Full Metal Jacket he is Gomer Pyle!)....And did you know 9/11 is linked to Hayden doing so badly this year in fighting to keep his MotoGP title ... Bush said that exact thing last night following the Nuclear Holocaust statement.

Yes he did, actually his exact words were 'Rossi has ties to AlQuiada and Madanm Hussy'en'

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(antfan @ Aug 29 2007, 08:37 AM) [snapback]87381[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>

The 250 reject and serial crasher look set to be in GP's again for 08, cant be doing to badly...

Anthony West couldn't even get a good factory team in 250 after he left KTM but lets put him on a MotoGP bike because theres nothing better to do.

De Puniet has cost Kawasaki more money than it costs to run one season, hes clearly a traction control boy and has no feel whatsoever.

If CV is so bad in the wet, why did he get second place at Laguna and beat Rossi in the dry at Brno recently for 5th place? 3rd best Bridgestone runner..

CV has been outdone in every single dry race by Hopper unless Hopper crashed etc. Hopper crashed at Laguna. CV knows that track well.

Capirossi, Tamada and Checa are all former race winners.. Edwards is a double WSBK champ and multiple GP podium getter..


They are finished, are you trying to say they are worth their place over the likes of Lorenzo, Dovi, Toseland, Rea and Bautista who i rate highly.



Also why shouldn't i be harsh with my assesment here, we are talking about MotoGP supposed to be the best riders in the world but look at some of them either washed up or not world class from looking at what they have achieved.

Go easy on Migs guys. I think his whole purpose here is to get a rise out of people. Remember, this is the guy who, before the Road Atlanta crash, persisted in saying that Miguel Duhamel simply rode around and collected a paycheck. Several people proved him wrong, yet he just kept on, which drove people up the wall.

Remember, when you see a post by this guy, get your salt out.

Capper and Nakano have some good races left in them. Hoppers going to Kawi next year and I think that is a mistake but we'll see.

.... ME... THIS THREAD IS COMPLETELY ........

AS FOR AN4REW I WONT EVEN GO THERE.. HE SIMPLY HAS'NT A CLUE WHTA HE IS TALKING ABOUT....

"Many a true word is said in jest" and Migs' post is hilarious.