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Booing has happened more than a few times in motorsports. i remember Schumacher was booed in Silverstone, and Hamilton was booed in Spain, and we heard in Mugello they also booed Lorenzo or Casey or both. It happens sometimes and it's not only by some especifiek fans, or only in one land.

It will be nice if the rest of the crowed go to cheer for that person, to make it clear to those people.

...and likewise I remember Dani booed by the Rossi contingent in Parc Ferme Donington when he won the race in 2006; subsequently Casey, by a violent sea of yellow upon taking the stage at the Day of Champions the following year, for making derogatory comments about the circuit. Tom's right - symptomatic of the increased commercial appeal of the sport, and bandwagon jumpers who lack a real respect or understanding for what they are watching.
 
The booing of Stoner / Lorenzo or any of the riders for that matter is totally out of order.

i was at Donington when Stoner was boo'd. Yes they were Rossi fans, but they were also complete dickends and I think that is the main point. They weren't booing him because they were Rossi fans, they were booing him because they were twats.

I'm a Rossi fan, but hopefully not too much of a .....

Interesting, so you make a distinction between types of Rossi fans. I've been saying this for almost 4 years, guess which type of Rossi fan (for which you make distinction) don't understand the difference? Look no further than this thread, you will find a few. Yes, I whole heartedly agree with your point above.
 
Oh, that was just me in your ear.



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...and likewise I remember Dani booed by the Rossi contingent in Parc Ferme Donington when he won the race in 2006; subsequently Casey, by a violent sea of yellow upon taking the stage at the Day of Champions the following year, for making derogatory comments about the circuit. Tom's right - symptomatic of the increased commercial appeal of the sport, and bandwagon jumpers who lack a real respect or understanding for what they are watching.



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go back and read Woods quote, he's saying that it will take less time for Rossi to win a race next year than it took Stoner to win this year.

I understand that. I never misread it or misunderstood it. I happen to think he's right and with minimal changes to the bikes this off-season, I think Rossi is a good chance to win before round 11 or 12 or whatever....



@Woody



I'm from Sydney also. My proposed bet was a straight-out fight between Rossi and Stoner - whoever wins first. How about a six-pack? The postage will be minimal. Your choice of brew.?



And to show I'm not a complete noob, we can disregard Qatar.
 
Jumkie has made a goose of himself and could have saved himself a lot of time and effort if he had simply had the foresight to refer to the most recent findings of the IOC, otherwise known as the International Overtaking Committee ( and nothing to do with Olympic sport as many erroniously believe).



In its most recent report, all is explained quite clearly :



Section 2, clause i) : Overtaking moves not resulting in off-track excursions are deemed fair and courageous



clause ii) Overtaking moves in boring races that result in only minor injuries are deemed fair, courageous and exhilarating



clause iii) Overtaking moves in exceedingly boring races that result in maiming and only one permanently impaired limb are deemed to be not only fair, but exhilarating and death -defying.



clause iv) Overtaking moves in races led by Australians and Americans, and resulting in only one death are deemed to be necessary, exhilarating, orgasmic and bopperoferous ( but for obvious reasons not "death-defying"), and will be talked about endlessly as evidence of courage, inevitibility and goatedness.



clause v) Overtaking moves that may or may not fit into the above categories, will still be deemed legal, if and only if , the overtaker (not the overtakee) is Italian, is over 170cm tall and has the initials V and R.









Jumkie needs to take a good look at himself and get the facts right before he goes prattling on with his nonsense about track etiquette.



Read the report Jumks old son!
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Jumkie has made a goose of himself and could have saved himself a lot of time and effort if he had simply had the foresight to refer to the most recent findings of the IOC, otherwise known as the International Overtaking Committee ( and nothing to do with Olympic sport as many erroniously believe).



In its most recent report, all is explained quite clearly :



Section 2, clause i) : Overtaking moves not resulting in off-track excursions are deemed fair and courageous



clause ii) Overtaking moves in boring races that result in only minor injuries are deemed fair, courageous and exhilarating



clause iii) Overtaking moves in exceedingly boring races that result in maiming and only one permanently impaired limb are deemed to be not only fair, but exhilarating and death -defying.



clause iv) Overtaking moves in races led by Australians and Americans, and resulting in only one death are deemed to be necessary, exhilarating, orgasmic and bopperoferous ( but for obvious reasons not "death-defying"), and will be talked about endlessly as evidence of courage, inevitibility and goatedness.



clause v) Overtaking moves that may or may not fit into the above categories, will still be deemed legal, if and only if , the overtaker (not the overtakee) is Italian, is over 170cm tall and has the initials V and R.









Jumkie needs to take a good look at himself and get the facts right before he goes prattling on with his nonsense about track etiquette.



Read the fecking report Jumks old son!
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OMG Bunny, your extraordinary intellect and incessant ability to make complete sense whilst being dynamically humorous at the same time is why I miss you so much
 
I understand that. I never misread it or misunderstood it. I happen to think he's right and with minimal changes to the bikes this off-season, I think Rossi is a good chance to win before round 11 or 12 or whatever....



@Woody



I'm from Sydney also. My proposed bet was a straight-out fight between Rossi and Stoner - whoever wins first. How about a six-pack? The postage will be minimal. Your choice of brew.?



And to show I'm not a complete noob, we can disregard Qatar.





You see I think Stoner will be quicker out of the box on the Honda than Rossi on the Ducati so we're really betting on the same side there. My original bet was less than 12 rounds for Rossi to win his first race which you also agree with. We need to find something we disagree about?
 
You see I think Stoner will be quicker out of the box on the Honda than Rossi on the Ducati so we're really betting on the same side there. My original bet was less than 12 rounds for Rossi to win his first race which you also agree with. We need to find something we disagree about?
Honestly, I genuinely did LOL. (only because of all the posts implying we were disagreeing)



As to what we might genuinely disagree about...i dunno. That's why I proposed the alternate bet. Do you think Stoner will beat Rossi to a win, discounting Qatar?
 
Honestly, I genuinely did LOL. (only because of all the posts implying we were disagreeing)



As to what we might genuinely disagree about...i dunno. That's why I proposed the alternate bet. Do you think Stoner will beat Rossi to a win, discounting Qatar?



Ok 6 pack. First rider to win after Qatar. You on Stoner, me on Rossi.

What's your brew?
 
Ok 6 pack. First rider to win after Qatar. You on Stoner, me on Rossi.

What's your brew?



Done. As to my usual brew.....mmmmm.....truth be told I've been trying a lot of new ones lately. But I'm liking the Boag's premium or the Blue Tongue whatever. How about any six pack of yours or my choice below $20?



EDIT: what i mean is any 6 pack either of us choose as long as it's below $20. In other words, the winner chooses whatever brew he prefers.
 
As ever, most people in this thread are guilty of polarizing their opinions to convey what actually seems a pretty small difference in point of view. Nobody think this move was unfair, or that Rossi has done anything wrong do they? It seems some people feel Rossi's move wasn't all that classy, it was close run and forced both riders wide. Thats fine, it happens. Look at the closing laps of Jerez or Stoners move in Germany for similar examples of pretty rough, scrappy, on the limit racing. It's fine. But look at Catalunya 09 for an example of precise, totally clean and classy racing. We can all see the difference. I don't think the Nicky fans should be upset that Rossi has to try that hard to get past their man, i think its quite encouraging. I also don't think the Rossi fans should be upset by the idea that Rossi's move wasn't perfect. I'd have thought it'd be nice to see someone after such a .... season being knocked from the top by his team mate to still have the motivation to fight for a 3rd place that he wasn't going to get easily.





Good post Tom.



The fact that Rossi is willing to put it on the line for 3rd at this point in a crap season (for him) just reinforces my thought that were in for a belter of a season next year.



There's a lot of talk about Elias on here, and as the guy who christened him Scud, I'd just like to point out that it was more than Rossi who got on the wrong side of Scuds unguided missile impersonations in his rookie year. Scud is still nuts but has matured into a bloody good racer, and I'd love to see him back on a motogp bike next year. The point about Elias was that he was a rookie, who was trying to find the limits of his bike, and had a nasty habit of using other folks as brakes. Not the same as any of the top guys having a bit of push and shove. Thankfully, Scud has now discovered that he has a lever on his right bar, and a pedal below his right foot that do the same job as running into someone, and often with more desireable results. Result.



I'm just glad to see some overtaking happening, and not just Pedro or Spencer clearing off from the word go.



And finally, I'm also happy to see Hayden is back at the pointy end again, but as Ive said before, when Schwantz retired, they retired the number 34, surely when Nicky goes, they will retire fourth place.



Pete the bass
 
Im happy with boags premium. Go Rossi/JB. Good 'cough' luck er Stoner.

Cool. But if you've got something else you prefer just say so. BTW, you're no chance, hehe.
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But seriously, the only other bet on the net I've made was about Webber beating JV in BMW's debut season. Lost that one, but a nice Canadian fella ended up with a good pair of hand-blown port glasses.
 
Good post Tom.



The fact that Rossi is willing to put it on the line for 3rd at this point in a crap season (for him) just reinforces my thought that were in for a belter of a season next year.



There's a lot of talk about Elias on here, and as the guy who christened him Scud, I'd just like to point out that it was more than Rossi who got on the wrong side of Scuds unguided missile impersonations in his rookie year. Scud is still nuts but has matured into a bloody good racer, and I'd love to see him back on a motogp bike next year. The point about Elias was that he was a rookie, who was trying to find the limits of his bike, and had a nasty habit of using other folks as brakes. Not the same as any of the top guys having a bit of push and shove. Thankfully, Scud has now discovered that he has a lever on his right bar, and a pedal below his right foot that do the same job as running into someone, and often with more desireable results. Result.



I'm just glad to see some overtaking happening, and not just Pedro or Spencer clearing off from the word go.



And finally, I'm also happy to see Hayden is back at the pointy end again, but as Ive said before, when Schwantz retired, they retired the number 34, surely when Nicky goes, they will retire fourth place.



Pete the bass



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Nice one !
 
Jumkie has made a goose of himself and could have saved himself a lot of time and effort if he had simply had the foresight to refer to the most recent findings of the IOC, otherwise known as the International Overtaking Committee ( and nothing to do with Olympic sport as many erroniously believe).



In its most recent report, all is explained quite clearly :



Section 2, clause i) : Overtaking moves not resulting in off-track excursions are deemed fair and courageous



clause ii) Overtaking moves in boring races that result in only minor injuries are deemed fair, courageous and exhilarating



clause iii) Overtaking moves in exceedingly boring races that result in maiming and only one permanently impaired limb are deemed to be not only fair, but exhilarating and death -defying.



clause iv) Overtaking moves in races led by Australians and Americans, and resulting in only one death are deemed to be necessary, exhilarating, orgasmic and bopperoferous ( but for obvious reasons not "death-defying"), and will be talked about endlessly as evidence of courage, inevitibility and goatedness.



clause v) Overtaking moves that may or may not fit into the above categories, will still be deemed legal, if and only if , the overtaker (not the overtakee) is Italian, is over 170cm tall and has the initials V and R.









Jumkie needs to take a good look at himself and get the facts right before he goes prattling on with his nonsense about track etiquette.



Read the report Jumks old son!
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Nice post. I think that should be forwarded to Dorna and made official
 
Jumkie has made a goose of himself and could have saved himself a lot of time and effort if he had simply had the foresight to refer to the most recent findings of the IOC, otherwise known as the International Overtaking Committee ( and nothing to do with Olympic sport as many erroniously believe).



In its most recent report, all is explained quite clearly :



Section 2, clause i) : Overtaking moves not resulting in off-track excursions are deemed fair and courageous



clause ii) Overtaking moves in boring races that result in only minor injuries are deemed fair, courageous and exhilarating



clause iii) Overtaking moves in exceedingly boring races that result in maiming and only one permanently impaired limb are deemed to be not only fair, but exhilarating and death -defying.



clause iv) Overtaking moves in races led by Australians and Americans, and resulting in only one death are deemed to be necessary, exhilarating, orgasmic and bopperoferous ( but for obvious reasons not "death-defying"), and will be talked about endlessly as evidence of courage, inevitibility and goatedness.



clause v) Overtaking moves that may or may not fit into the above categories, will still be deemed legal, if and only if , the overtaker (not the overtakee) is Italian, is over 170cm tall and has the initials V and R.









Jumkie needs to take a good look at himself and get the facts right before he goes prattling on with his nonsense about track etiquette.



Read the report Jumks old son!
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Thanks. I needed that.
 
Jumkie is my Guru, he obviously has not spared himself a lot of time and effort since he was able to foresee the most recent findings of the IOC, otherwise known as the International Overtaking Committee (which, in spite of some unbelievers, is closely connected with Olympic sport).
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In its most recent ruling, all is spelt out quite clearly :



Section 2, clause i) : Only those overtaking moves that can never possibly end in off-track excursions can be deemed fair and courageous, and skillful.
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clause ii) Overtaking moves in boring (=well behaved) races that result in a trip to the kitty litter, even if there are no injuries, are punished with a -450 points penalty, 399 lashes and imprisonment.
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clause iii) Overtaking moves in exceedingly boring (=correct and beautiful) races, that could even remotely result in any kind of injuries, (leave alone the danger of permanent impairments or worse), will simply never take place. Why? Because our marksmen placed at the entrance and exit of every corner of the track will take out all the potential offenders with prehemptive, extremely accurate headshots, if they think (at their sole discretion) that the situation may be getting a little dangerous. Law and order must be safeguarded!
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clause iv) Overtaking moves by a certain Valentino Rossi are henceforth forbidden because they stir up too much enthusiasm by Rossi's fans in Jumkie's forums. Should this Rossi try again, clause iii) above may apply at the discretion of the IOC track inspector.
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clause v) Overtaking moves that do not fit into any of the above categories, are the only ones that are fair, skillful and therefore permitted.



Jumkie can congratulate himself since he got all the facts right. His unmistaken words have defined, once and forever, track etiquette.
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Well put Dad!
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..........FIXED FOR YOU
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...humor is humor after all, it works both ways
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..... refer to the most recent findings of the IOC, otherwise known as the International Overtaking Committee ( and nothing to do with Olympic sport as many erroniously believe).



In its most recent report, all is explained quite clearly :



Section 2, clause i) : Overtaking moves not resulting in off-track excursions are deemed fair and courageous



clause ii) Overtaking moves in boring races that result in only minor injuries are deemed fair, courageous and exhilarating



clause iii) Overtaking moves in exceedingly boring races that result in maiming and only one permanently impaired limb are deemed to be not only fair, but exhilarating and death -defying.



clause iv) Overtaking moves in races led by Australians and Americans, and resulting in only one death are deemed to be necessary, exhilarating, orgasmic and bopperoferous ( but for obvious reasons not "death-defying"), and will be talked about endlessly as evidence of courage, inevitibility and goatedness.



clause v) Overtaking moves that may or may not fit into the above categories, will still be deemed legal, if and only if , the overtaker (not the overtakee) is Italian, is over 170cm tall and has the initials V and R.





This is priceless!!! Thanks for a bright spot in my otherwise dull day.
 

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