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BarryMachine · Oct 19, 2010

Oniker said:
Pfft ,minority. . . . . . . . .

Actually I went looking for a post, from years ago, cos I thought Rog. has said he booed Stoner at Donnington in the past ...... found a post that shows clearly that Rog. doesnt agree with booing riders/Stoner.

I was a bit amazed, confused, and gained a bit of respect for Reg.

SO is your point that Rog. is a minority amongst the Boppers?

Mind you I still think you are a ........ Rog.

MdubSTYLIE · Oct 19, 2010

BarryMachine said:
......., I was having a go at the fact that this was just another bopper fantasy that was going around at the time when Stoner was going to "do bad things to the world" ...... aparently

Matter of fact wasn't it you who tried to kick off the "Sody and Lollies" scandal

and such a scandal it was

especially when all the time it was the cheese and milk etc. etc. etc.

Yeah milk chocolate and cheese curls, ........

Jumkie · Oct 19, 2010

BarryMachine said:
Actually I went looking for a post, from years ago, cos I thought Rog. has said he booed Stoner at Donnington in the past ...... found a post that shows clearly that Rog. doesnt agree with booing riders/Stoner.

I was a bit amazed, confused, and gained a bit of respect for Reg.

SO is your point that Rog. is a minority amongst the Boppers?

Mind you I still think you are a ........ Rog.

You didn't need to go fishing. You could have just taken him at his word on this thread. You will be hard pressed to find much inconsistency in him as I have been exchanging barbs and compliments with him long before you joined.

BTW, I think the feeling is mutual.

BarryMachine · Oct 19, 2010

Jumkie said:
You will be hard pressed to find much inconsistency in him

Well no thats pretty debateable ..... lets just look at the cigarette issue ....... and back it up to the "morals" of the issue. Then Rog. goes on about "booze" and how thats fine .......... stick to the words if you like but some of us take it further than that when seeking "consistency".

Damn you Jumkie I was just everso slightly warming ( to the bearable stage

) to the guy

good one.

So you go on loving him ..... if you like.

When he stops consistently being a DH with me I'll know

Gaz · Oct 20, 2010

Talpa said:
This, if true, is ......, they should have been booing Stoner!! Just Joking-really.

This kind of behaviour is really not warranted at all, like them or hate them, these guys are the best riders on the planet and must always be shown respect for at least that. Reminds me of the booing of Gentleman Jim and Skaifey at Bathurst for not driving a Holden or Ford-abysmal.

Us Aussie's certainly can be a bigoted bunch, PS has plenty of great examples of this

Is true, I have heard from people who attended and officiated that a small section of the crowd did indeed boo Lorenzo.

Sadly, it is said/reported that near all who booed were wearing yellow jackets/hats - which of course sounds to be stereotyping those (non) race fans.

The positive was that apparently they were drowned out by the cheers which just got louder the louder those booing got, and again it is said that many of those cheering were wearing yellow (and red).

Gaz

Gaz · Oct 20, 2010

Talpa said:
14 DNF's in Motogp alone certainly explains this, win it or bin is a certainty in this case. Which in a way is quite admirable-maybe even desperate........

Agreed.

To me a win-it-or-bin-it attitude is admirable and shows the desperation level of the individual to win, without it these guys would not be anywhere near as good as they are (and that goes across all riders at this and international level).

Gaz

inam22 · Oct 20, 2010

Gaz said:
Agreed.

To me a win-it-or-bin-it attitude is admirable and shows the desperation level of the individual to win, without it these guys would not be anywhere near as good as they are (and that goes across all riders at this and international level).

Gaz

Try to tell this to our old friend Jumkie, I could be wrong Gaz but i think you missed the sarcasm in Talpa's post towards Jumkie.

babelfish · Oct 20, 2010

Keshav said:
Claimed what didn't belong where?

Rough passes, or more to the point the "dirty" pass rossi did on hayden didn't belong in MotoGP. Seems like we are going in circles now, doesn't it.

It mattered to Hayden.

And dude - you can't offer up all them excuses. That's the province of us Stoner fans.

It's because you are a stoner fan I put up the alternatives. As I said, take your pick.

babelfish · Oct 20, 2010

BarryMachine said:
When he stops being a DH with me I'll know

I'd guess that would be about the same time as you stop being a DH on the forum, and we all know that wont happen any time soon.

Edit: Trying to make en even more obvious point I got this message:

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I bet BigMac bump into that all the time.

babelfish · Oct 20, 2010

Gaz said:
Agreed.

To me a win-it-or-bin-it attitude is admirable and shows the desperation level of the individual to win, without it these guys would not be anywhere near as good as they are (and that goes across all riders at this and international level).

Gaz

I see what you mean but I think it is the wrong use of the word. Despair is all negative, these guys don't do this to avoid despair. But I agree with the rest of what you say if you substitute desperation with competetivness/will to win/hardheaded....

michaelm · Oct 20, 2010

Even as an avowed stoner fan what this thread suggests to me is that rossi is imperfect threads and rossi is perfect threads are probably equally tedious.

In this instance I think hayden would have gone for a similar pass in the same circumstance had rossi left a similar gap, particularly given it was the last lap and opportunities to make a pass with the absolute precision being demanded of him were not necessarily going to present. I don't see much difference between this and recent passes by nicky on lorenzo or stoner on rossi, or passes that sometimes occurred several times per lap in the schwantz /rainey /doohan days.

DRILL · Oct 20, 2010

michaelm said:
Even as an avowed stoner fan what this thread suggests to me is that rossi is imperfect threads and rossi is perfect threads are probably equally tedious.

In this instance I think hayden would have gone for a similar pass in the same circumstance had rossi left a similar gap, particularly given it was the last lap and opportunities to make a pass with the absolute precision being demanded of him were not necessarily going to present. I don't see much difference between this and recent passes by nicky on lorenzo or stoner on rossi, or passes that sometimes occurred several times per lap in the schwantz /rainey /doohan days.

Absolutely spot on Micheal.

raven46 · Oct 20, 2010

Gaz said:
So, by this logic you should also STFU until your chosen rider (assuming it is VR given your response) has more World titles than:

Angel Nieto - 13

Giacomo Agostini - 15

Gaz

Ahh Gaz you know what they say about assumptions

, I may have 46 in my user name but my favourite\chosen rider has never competed in the motogp circus.

SprogTheDog · Oct 20, 2010

Good thread guys !

I love the way a sensible discussion descends into 20 pages of bitching.

For my part on various points made by various members....

The booing of Stoner / Lorenzo or any of the riders for that matter is totally out of order.

i was at Donington when Stoner was boo'd. Yes they were Rossi fans, but they were also complete dickends and I think that is the main point. They weren't booing him because they were Rossi fans, they were booing him because they were twats.

I'm a Rossi fan, but hopefully not too much of a .....

Rossi's pass on Hayden was exactly what it was...Rossi's last chance to get on the podium. I think options were limited by that stage of the race.

michaelm · Oct 20, 2010

raven46 said:
Ahh Gaz you know what they say about assumptions

, I may have 46 in my user name but my favourite\chosen rider has never competed in the motogp circus.

It is extremely unlikely if not already impossible that any current rider will match valentino's career. A rider can be better than him in a race or even a season though.

Ngads · Oct 20, 2010

THIS

michaelm said:
In this instance I think hayden would have gone for a similar pass in the same circumstance had rossi left a similar gap, particularly given it was the last lap and opportunities to make a pass with the absolute precision being demanded of him were not necessarily going to present. I don't see much difference between this and recent passes by nicky on lorenzo or stoner on rossi, or passes that sometimes occurred several times per lap in the schwantz /rainey /doohan days.

rossiofsky · Oct 20, 2010

Gecko Hunter said:
Yes I did say that, no denying it at all.

I also said that Rossi's move on Hayden was clean and fair, and that it was Hayden's fault for leaving the door open.

There was absolutely no slagging, bagging anti bopperism at all of Rossi's move at PI.

I also made a reference to Laguna Seca saying that Rossi was very very lucky hey didn't bin it when he went thru the gravel (which he was).

So I'm really not to sure what you have your cranky pants on for?

Oh and I'm sorry I didn't realise I needed your permission before I was able to make comments towards Rossi.

Are you the forum moderator?

If so could you please provide me with a minimun number of days/posts before I am able to make a comment about Rossi that others may not agree to.

Seriously take a couple of val (oops better clarify there VALIUM) sit down and chill, nothing I said was really that bad dude.

Seriously.....................

Cheers

Gecko Hunter

at your last post you said: The only thing that is consistent here is that when Rossi does it to someone else its good race craft when someone does it to Rossi it was a dodgy cheap move. And I mean that from Rossi's point of view no ones on the forums here, so don't feel as though that was aimed at someone. and i thought you were talking about the Rossi-Hayden move. while you didn't give any example of the times he has called his moves "race craft" or the ones he has called other riders moves " a dodgy cheap move".

at Laguna Rossi made a mistake and yes he was lucky to get away with it,(though that doesn't take anything away from his nice win imo).

about your bs about moderating you or your comments, as far as i care, fcuk yourself. Seriously...

rossiofsky · Oct 20, 2010

So, we learnt that the amount of pages in a thread has a lot to do with the reasons for bitching about Rossi.

Do you have anything to say about this Jumkie?

Are you still saying only Rossi fans have no problem with that move( Rossi-Hayden)? Or you have read the other comments which came from fans of other riders, where they all said pretty clear, that there was Nothing wrong with it.

Is it still a legal and fair but Dirty move?

rossiofsky · Oct 20, 2010

Gaz said:
Is true, I have heard from people who attended and officiated that a small section of the crowd did indeed boo Lorenzo.

Sadly, it is said/reported that near all who booed were wearing yellow jackets/hats - which of course sounds to be stereotyping those (non) race fans.

The positive was that apparently they were drowned out by the cheers which just got louder the louder those booing got, and again it is said that many of those cheering were wearing yellow (and red).

Booing has happened more than a few times in motorsports. i remember Schumacher was booed in Silverstone, and Hamilton was booed in Spain, and we heard in Mugello they also booed Lorenzo or Casey or both. It happens sometimes and it's not only for some especial fans of Rossi or only in one land. It will be nice if the rest of the crowed go to cheer for that person, to make it clear to those people.

Gaz

Booing has happened more than a few times in motorsports. i remember Schumacher was booed in Silverstone, and Hamilton was booed in Spain, and we heard in Mugello they also booed Lorenzo or Casey or both. It happens sometimes and it's not only by some especifiek fans, or only in one land.

It will be nice if the rest of the crowed go to cheer for that person, to make it clear to those people.

Tom · Oct 20, 2010

rossiofsky said:
Booing has happened more than a few times in motorsports. i remember Schumacher was booed in Silverstone, and Hamilton was booed in Spain, and we heard in Mugello they also booed Lorenzo or Casey or both. It happens sometimes and it's not only by some especifiek fans, or only in one land.

It will be nice if the rest of the crowed go to cheer for that person, to make it clear to those people.

Yes its unfortunate but as a sport gets more commercial it'll get more casual fans who lack a real understanding of or respect for what they are watching

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