Australian GP **RACE**

Nice retake by Rossi!!



Great race.

at that gyro cam angle..i thought rossi was going to lose the front on that final pass

What a last lap, thanks to that overtake by Hayden, i hope he had done it a few laps earlier.

Stoner was the only alien i saw in this race.

Lorenzo did the most he could and scored another podium.

Spies did it to Simoch finally.

Simochelli hasn't been bad these last few gp's, i hope he keeps it up like this.

Tekniqs said:

at that gyro cam angle..i thought rossi was going to lose the front on that final pass

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Me too, i thought he took both of them out, and said $hit, what your doing. it didn't look to be possible at all.

I was getting ready to go to bed, but that last bit made me awake again.



bring on the next gp,

who can wait for 2 weeks, we had just got used to a gp every weekend.

rossiofsky said:

Me too, i thought he took both of them out, and said $hit, what your doing. it didn't look to be possible at all.

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It wasn't. He just pushed hayden wide and bulled his way by. Typical dirty .... by Rossi. Nicky had the drive 3 corners later but that POS Ducati front end let him down

JohnnyKnockdown said:

It wasn't. He just pushed hayden wide and bulled his way by. Typical dirty .... by Rossi. Nicky had the drive 3 corners later but that POS Ducati front end let him down

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In any other form of racing you would not dare call it dirty ..... What is the problem with you wisels, racing is racing and its not only about taking the fastest line.

Congrats to Stoner, he was on different planet this week. Good battles for 3rd and 5th positions.

JohnnyKnockdown said:

It wasn't. He just pushed hayden wide and bulled his way by. Typical dirty .... by Rossi. Nicky had the drive 3 corners later but that POS Ducati front end let him down

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I saw one replay and it looked as a block pass which Rossi does a lot and is legal, otherwise they would give him a penalty, oh wait he is Rossi and they are affraid to punish him.

let's see what others will say about this. especially the known haters.



but he made one mistake/fault on Hayden when he overtook him for the first time, and Hayden lost 1 or 2 places, which Fortunatly he could find his rythem very fast and overtake both Spies and Simochelli. So that one didn't cost Hayden.

Congrats to Stoner. He was light out!



Jorge, fast, but it goes to show you just how on song Casey was riding today.



Rossi & Hayden made the race interesting. Seems Rossi let Nicky know they are gonna be "teammates" next year. Until somebody is willing to cut Vale's line off, park it, and proceed to run him wide while leaning on the outside bike to gain the position, Rossi will win every one of these battles. I suppose its not Rossi's fault that nobody is willing to race him like this. But then again, if somebody tries it, I'm sure they will be immediately black flagged for aggressive riding. Legal yes, dirty, yes, acceptable, I suppose, classy, no. Nicky said it was a good battle and chalked it up to good hard racing. That's how the man takes his lumps.

Good ride stoner. Congrats on the win.

Good ride Lorenzo

Good ride by Rossi and Hayden. Good racing - not for fairies.

Jumkie said:

Congrats to Stoner. He was light out!



Jorge, fast, but it goes to show you just how on song Casey was riding today.



Rossi & Hayden made the race interesting. Seems Rossi let Nicky know they are gonna be "teammates" next year. Until somebody is willing to cut Vale's line off, park it, and proceed to run him wide while leaning on the outside bike to gain the position, Rossi will win every one of these battles. I suppose its not Rossi's fault that nobody is willing to race him like this. But then again, if somebody tries it, I'm sure they will be immediately black flagged for aggressive riding. Legal yes, dirty, yes, acceptable, I suppose, classy, no. Nicky said it was a good battle and chalked it up to good hard racing. That's how the man takes his lumps.

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Arent you contradicting yourself? If it is legal, why would he get a black flag? I dount that someone will get a black flag for these kind of overtakes.

rossiofsky said:

I saw one replay and it looked as a block pass which Rossi does a lot and is legal, otherwise they would give him a penalty, oh wait he is Rossi and they are affraid to punish him.

let's see what others will say about this. especially the known haters.



but he made one mistake/fault on Hayden when he overtook him for the first time, and Hayden lost 1 or 2 places, which Fortunatly he could find his rythem very fast and overtake both Spies and Simochelli. So that one didn't cost Hayden.

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I am sure stinky will be back soon, after all Rossi did not win this race

Evolution said:

Arent you contradicting yourself? If it is legal, why would he get a black flag? I dount that someone will get a black flag for these kind of overtakes.

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Ask Tamada.



(go ahead, google, I'll wait)

WD Stoner it was won by the second corner

Nicky n Vale just about kept me from falling a sleep



i hope this season hasnt put TV Ppl off i can see Motogp getting shoved off the schedules in 2011

its been a poor spectacle on Screen this yr and trackside crowds look to be down

and in 2011 it aint going to get better

Jumkie said:

Congrats to Stoner. He was light out!



Jorge, fast, but it goes to show you just how on song Casey was riding today.



Rossi & Hayden made the race interesting. Seems Rossi let Nicky know they are gonna be "teammates" next year. Until somebody is willing to cut Vale's line off, park it, and proceed to run him wide while leaning on the outside bike to gain the position, Rossi will win every one of these battles. I suppose its not Rossi's fault that nobody is willing to race him like this. But then again, if somebody tries it, I'm sure they will be immediately black flagged for aggressive riding. Legal yes, dirty, yes, acceptable, I suppose, classy, no. Nicky said it was a good battle and chalked it up to good hard racing. That's how the man takes his lumps.

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Sour grapes, nothing more.

rossiofsky said:

I saw one replay and it looked as a block pass which Rossi does a lot and is legal, otherwise they would give him a penalty, oh wait he is Rossi and they are affraid to punish him.

let's see what others will say about this. especially the known haters.



but he made one mistake/fault on Hayden when he overtook him for the first time, and Hayden lost 1 or 2 places, which Fortunatly he could find his rythem very fast and overtake both Spies and Simochelli. So that one didn't cost Hayden.

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I agree with most of your take. I'm actually surprised you acknowledged Rossi's first bonsai move on Hayden. Tell me something, why is it that when Simoncelli makes a similar pass he's called "dangerous?" Anyway, if this cost Hayden time, how come you don't see it the same as when Rossi claimed he lost the race by losing 2 seconds on a much more mild move? Double standard?



Rossi is smart because he bullies into the inside line knowing that once he has a wheel, all he as to do is park it (classic block pass) and then run opponent wide because at that point he has the physical advantage. He did the exact same thing with Lorenzo at Motegi for that final pass. This is a common motocross move. I think that's why these guys train so much in this discipline. In motocross, I'd say its more acceptable. But in roadracing, I think its dirty. You may not think its dirty, that's ok. Until Rossi gets called on it, I suppose he should use it because he's getting away with it. As far as what is "legal", well we all know that is highly subjective. There is a human being in a booth deciding what is legal and what is not. Tamada got DQ for less. Like I said, until somebody is willing to race Rossi like Rossi, he will win every one of these battles. I think it does say something about the man and his entitlement in the sport. But that's not his fault if he's willing to resort to those tactics and push the line of what is acceptable and get away with it. People say this is a contact sport, but its really not. Its a sport where contact occurs. There is a difference. Anyway, Rossi got the podium resorting to these tactics, if it were somebody else they'd call him "dangerous" like he called Elias. But being called dangerous doesn't make it wrong. So if this is what it takes to get ahead, then some people will use it. Rossi is chosen to use this tactic and it has served him well.

inam said:

Sour grapes, nothing more.

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Does Mundialito start this race?

Jumkie said:

Tamada got DQ for less.

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Tamada? lol. Luckily for us video only exists for a few year, otherwise you would bring some examples from the late 1950' as well.

Evolution said:

Tamada? lol. Luckily for us video only exists for a few year, otherwise you would bring some examples from the late 1950' as well.

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Yes, because that was so long ago right? The point is subjectivity. Do you understand that word? Bottom line, are you saying what is legal is not subjective? Is it or is it not?



I don't think these moves today would have called for a black flag, but if somebody else use these tactics with the frequency seen lately, I do think they would be warned. Read my post and don't get stuck. As I said, it doesn't make it wrong. The tactic has served him well. I just wish others would race him with the same tactic. Not because I think its clean, but because its the only way to beat him. You know, like Elias did (of course he was called "dangerous".) Still doesn't make it wrong, but its a bit dirty.