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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ozzie @ Sep 5 2007, 06:31 PM) [snapback]89099[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
No Andrew you are wrong.
Plenty of people have been given the chance on championship capable machinery in the past, yet very, very few of them have the gumption to produce results.
I still can't believe that some people are barking on about it not being a level playing field.
PIG'S FU#$@NG ARSE!!!!
Michelin had it all their way for umpteen years and no one ever bitched.
Did Michelin not have a copy of the regulations at the beginning of testing for this season?
Of course they did, henceforth Moto Gp by default is, was and always will be a level playing field.
The fact that Honda and Yamaha are having a pretty ordinary season is not a product of Casey Stoner. He just happened to have the drive, talent and self assuredness to grab the donkey by the bollocks and ride the sucker. Now come on people let's end this once and for all.
No longer are these reasons valid for Casey winning in my book:
1. The Ducati is faster than anything else.
2. Honda and Yamaha are useless.
3. Michelin are useless.
4. Bridgestone are brilliant.

All of these things have played a part in Casey being where he is right now, however, the overiding and undeniable reason for his success is his talent, commitment and maturity.
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What he said!!!

All we know for sure is that in the past five years there have been guys who had the equipment to win races. All except one couldn't convert that into a Chanpionship win. Gibernau, Melandri and Hayden being the best of the rest in terms of race wins after Rossi. But Stoner, call him boring, call him uncharismatic, call him whatever you like ( all of it sour grapes ) he is different to all of these guys including Rossi. He has not made one single mistake this season, rode perfectly everywhere, and even at Mugello or say Germany where the Bridgestone guys seemed to get it wrong and the Ducati seemed to be struggling, he battled hard and made no mistakes and brought home valuable points. In Catalunya with Rossi breathing down his neck and making several unforced errors in an effort to get passed, he was unflappable. This kid doesn't make mistakes, he's a machine. Nothing seems to get to him. Who knows what'll happen next year but this is for sure, Stoner will be there, winning races and riding perfectly. Everybody, including Rossi has to up their game if they want to take the title back from him and I can't wait to see them try because once he gets it, he won't want to let it go. Neither will Ducati.
 
Stoner is in another level because of his talent but also because everything is working perfectly and smoothly.

When problems will appear, I'm not sure we're gonna see him so dominant.

Another thing is I believe that Melandri is gonna be more competitive than Capi and this may also affect Stoner's mental (or not who knows).

Another thing is that I can't remember a worse year for Honda... I think they'll only have trial title in 2007.

They've even been beaten by Suzuki in their front garden: the Suzuka 8 hours.

So they cannot have another year like this and next year RCV is probably gonna be a much, much better bike.

So I am putting my money on Pedrosa but it is gonna be a very nice year I think
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And Rossi and Lorenzo in the same box ? Oh boy I want to see what happens
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We're gonna see sparks flying...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(alex29 @ Sep 6 2007, 07:58 AM) [snapback]89212[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Stoner,Melandri Marlboro Ducati will be a strong team.
Lorenzo i think will win races.
JT should get some podiums, definitely top 10
Hopper/Kawka maybe a win, few podiums??
Pedrosa some wins
Capirex i think will more competitive on the suzuki.
Rossi?? Before all insults start flying my (IM A ROSSI FAN) :) winning races but not the championship..


Why would anyone think there is not a good chance that rossi will win the title next year? Even CSCVAW would rate rossi's chances as fair to middling.

However, his chance overall will be heavily dependent on yamaha and michelin rather than his ability, which may be what you are implying.
 
Rossi
Melandri
Hayden
stoner
pedrosa
lorenzo
toseland

stoner lets stardom get to him and his misses dumps him and it all goes .... up.
toseland gets 7th but impresses enough to land an hrc ride but not sure who,s, think i will say pedro's because that would be funny.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CSCVAW @ Sep 6 2007, 01:12 AM) [snapback]89182[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Di-on...so you mean to tell me that Stoner will be 5th in 2008???...you’re kidding me!!! Lorenzo 3rd???
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...what a joke of a list!!!...listen here, Stoners dominance in 2007 will go onto 2008 and he will smash more track records and ride races at track and poll records more often...now tell me? How many riders in the last decade have achieved such dominance as Stoner has this year? Not Many!!!...

Lorenzo 3rd!!! ‘What a Joke”!!!
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You truly are a clown CSCVAW !
Lorenzo 3rd what a joke !! The boy would kick stoner ... anyday. Far far far far far far better than stoner.
Stoner will do this, Stoner will do that, and this!!!!!!!
So was Freddie Spencer.
He now works for Speed.
Thank you.
 
What is it with you poms and pumping the Big Tose up? He wont be seventh in his first year of GP, learning new tracks, news bike, tryres, brakes etc.. Keep it realaistic FFS and dont let your blind patriotism get in the way of your predictions..

Anyway, its fay to early to pick who will be where simply because we are yet to see what manufactureres will be able to bring to the table for 2008.. No one would have thought Ducati/Bridgestone/Stoner would be so dominant.. Who knows what surprises could be sprung..

Ill take a stab based on this years form:

1. Stoner
2. Melandri
daylight
3. Rossi
4. Pedrosa
5. Hayden
6. Hopkins
7. Vermeulen
8. West
9. Lorenzo
10. Capirossi
 
An4rew - you really are one neurone short of a synapse old son. Did Stoners dad kill your cat or something. You make cscvaw look like a genius.

All the top journalists agree the difference this year is Stoner, not the bike. But believe what you must if it makes you happy!

And Dion, anybody rating Stoner out of the top 3 is clearly not watching this years races. Roger- I thought you were better than that

Seriously, for next year,assuming Honda gets its act together, Pedrosa will challenge Stoner closely.
The top 5 will be Stoner, Pedrosa, Rossi, Vermeulin and Melandri, roughly in that order. Lorenzo and Hopkins will be close but I,m not sure. Hopkins could be top 3.

I would still rate Stoner as probable champion, with Pedrosa closer than this year. Will Rossi recover from his year of pressure?? We shall see.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(muzzy57 @ Sep 6 2007, 06:28 AM) [snapback]89202[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
An4rew,

I'm sorry... I feel like I'm picking on you a bit lately! It's nothing personal...


No problem and by all means anything i say is clearly banter so don't take it the wrong way.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(skidmark @ Sep 6 2007, 09:44 AM) [snapback]89225[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
What he said!!!
He has not made one single mistake this season, rode perfectly everywhere, and even at Mugello or say Germany where the Bridgestone guys seemed to get it wrong and the Ducati seemed to be struggling, he battled hard and made no mistakes and brought home valuable points. In Catalunya with Rossi breathing down his neck and making several unforced errors in an effort to get passed, he was unflappable. This kid doesn't make mistakes, he's a machine. Nothing seems to get to him.


The more you ride well the more confident you become and the easier it is to not make mistakes if you have a big lead in the world championship (and that applies to anyone past/present/future)

In Catalunya Rossi may have been pushing Stoner hard but he did not need to panick as he had the right combination and passed Rossi each time on the straight. It was Rossi having to brake late in the corners, looking silly.

Also in Germany Rossi was under alot of pressure trying to get points and the bike was not good so he dropped it.

Theres so much more pressure when you are coming from behind. When Rossi was dominating the Championship he hardly ever fell remember?

So i give Credit to Stoner for not making mistakes but i felt it necessary to say this as no one else brought this up.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(antfan @ Sep 7 2007, 01:43 AM) [snapback]89429[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
What is it with you poms and pumping the Big Tose up? He wont be seventh in his first year of GP, learning new tracks, news bike, tryres, brakes etc.. Keep it realaistic FFS and dont let your blind patriotism get in the way of your predictions..


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My expectations of JT are not as high as some for his first year so i actually agree, but to read this from you makes me laugh.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(antfan @ Sep 7 2007, 01:43 AM) [snapback]89429[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
What is it with you poms and pumping the Big Tose up? He wont be seventh in his first year of GP, learning new tracks, news bike, tryres, brakes etc.. Keep it realaistic FFS and dont let your blind patriotism get in the way of your predictions..

Anyway, its fay to early to pick who will be where simply because we are yet to see what manufactureres will be able to bring to the table for 2008.. No one would have thought Ducati/Bridgestone/Stoner would be so dominant.. Who knows what surprises could be sprung..

Ill take a stab based on this years form:

1. Stoner
2. Melandri
daylight
3. Rossi
4. Pedrosa
5. Hayden
6. Hopkins
7. Vermeulen
8. West
9. Lorenzo
10. Capirossi

arr, but you put west in 8th,
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bunyip @ Sep 7 2007, 03:10 AM) [snapback]89433[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
An4rew - you really are one neurone short of a synapse old son. Did Stoners dad kill your cat or something. You make cscvaw look like a genius.

All the top journalists agree the difference this year is Stoner, not the bike. But believe what you must if it makes you happy!

And Dion, anybody rating Stoner out of the top 3 is clearly not watching this years races. Roger- I thought you were better than that

Seriously, for next year,assuming Honda gets its act together, Pedrosa will challenge Stoner closely.
The top 5 will be Stoner, Pedrosa, Rossi, Vermeulin and Melandri, roughly in that order. Lorenzo and Hopkins will be close but I,m not sure. Hopkins could be top 3.

I would still rate Stoner as probable champion, with Pedrosa closer than this year. Will Rossi recover from his year of pressure?? We shall see.

i put him in 4th, this is next year were talking about, if we learned anything from this season ,its things dont always go the way you think they will.
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Wests had a half a year on the bike more than JT, i think he'll beat him next year.. That is realistic..
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(antfan @ Sep 7 2007, 09:39 AM) [snapback]89460[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Wests had a half a year on the bike more than JT, i think he'll beat him next year.. That is realistic..

jt is a worldchamp, west is not, yet im the one being over patriotic...please
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Bayliss and Edwards were world champs too.. They didnt set the world alight.. Id calm down, thats all.. West allready has runs on the board in his first few races and he'll only get better, especially with a full pre-season under his belt..
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(antfan @ Sep 7 2007, 09:47 AM) [snapback]89462[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Bayliss and Edwards were world champs too.. They didnt set the world alight.. Id calm down, thats all.. West allready has runs on the board in his first few races and he'll only get better, especially with a full pre-season under his belt..

well yeah, bayliss in 03 came 6th in the championship and edwards 5th in 05 so i dont think me predicting 7th for jt was over patriotic.
what was your reason for putting west in 8th ??
 
Its roughly where he's been finishing in races so far? So you could say its a safe guess, rather than ambitious.. Bayliss and Edwards didnt have to deal with the influx of the likes of Lorenzo, DeAngelis and Dovizioso either mind you
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I think the best way to predict how JT will perform is to look what CV did and hope he can achieve the same, i don't see any good reason why not.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(antfan @ Sep 7 2007, 01:43 AM) [snapback]89429[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
What is it with you poms and pumping the Big Tose up? He wont be seventh in his first year of GP, learning new tracks, news bike, tryres, brakes etc.. Keep it realaistic FFS and dont let your blind patriotism get in the way of your predictions..


well; i think jt nows quite a few of the tracks on the motogp calender.
donny
assen
misano
laga seca
philip island
i think because i haven't googled, he may have won races on all these tracks too.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CSCVAW @ Sep 6 2007, 12:12 AM) [snapback]89182[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Di-on...so you mean to tell me that Stoner will be 5th in 2008???...you’re kidding me!!! Lorenzo 3rd???
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...what a joke of a list!!!...listen here, Stoners dominance in 2007 will go onto 2008 and he will smash more track records and ride races at track and poll records more often...now tell me? How many riders in the last decade have achieved such dominance as Stoner has this year? Not Many!!!...

Lorenzo 3rd!!! ‘What a Joke”!!!
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Your Stoner devotion is almost scary. I hope you don't commit suicide or something when Stoner crash out of a race or doesn't finish on the podium.
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Stoner was never as dominant as Lorenzo is in 250, so why do you think that Lorenzo won't be able to beat Stoner? It's crazy to think that none of the other riders won't have a chance to win the championship. After all there's several world champions on the grid. Besides, Pedrosa has already beaten Stoner in 250cc.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dion @ Sep 6 2007, 06:50 AM) [snapback]89161[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
My reply to the suject title.

1. Rossi 9. Vemulan
2. Melandri 10. De pun
3. Lorenzo 11. Hopkins
4. Pedrosa 12. De pun
5. Stoner 13. Edwards
6. Hayden
7. Dovi
8. Toseland

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I predict this is the worst prediction we will see!
 

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