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April 7th, 2011, 05:07 PM   #1
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According to Soup, the upcoming Austin track is a strong candidate for a third Moto GP race in the states.



http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/...0407texas2.htm



Three races would give Moto GP a strong presence in the US. Does anyone think this could nix a factory comeback in the AMA classes? Would the Japanese manufacturers still see a need to market in the AMA series with three grand prix rounds here? Or is it still possible factories could return to AMA racing to promote specific models?
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Two Words:



WON'T HAPPEN!



(I admit, one word is a contraction, but its equally irrelevant.)



Here are two more words. Do the words, 'negotiation leverage', mean anything to you?
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WON'T HAPPEN!



(I admit, one word is a contraction, but its equally irrelevant.)



Here are two more words. Do the words, 'negotiation leverage', mean anything to you?


Are you talking about negotiation between Dorna and Indy for the US GP contract extension? Or potential talks between the factories and AMA/DMG?
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Are you talking about negotiation between Dorna and Indy for the US GP contract extension? Or potential talks between the factories and AMA/DMG?
Indy. They got a one year deal, Dorna trying to get more money.



Also, I don't see three rounds in the US. Ever.



Speaking of which, any tracks in Canada that could host a round. And do they ever plan on returning to Brazil?
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Indy. They got a one year deal, Dorna trying to get more money.



Also, I don't see three rounds in the US. Ever.



Speaking of which, any tracks in Canada that could host a round. And do they ever plan on returning to Brazil?


Nothing I can think of in Canada. Walls are too close at Mosport; from what I have heard the facilities are ancient too. I don't think Mt. Tremblant is up to date either. The walls are too close at Gilles Villeneuve (I believe it is a temporary track). The only new road course in Canada I can think of is ICAR, and it looks pretty sorry.



Brazil: Rio is gone. I would think Interlagos would have run-off issues. While the stock car racers are calling for adding run-off to the Curva do Cafe, that still leaves the walls close to the not-so-strait front straitaway. Curitiba looks like it has okay run-off, but would need work in spots (it also looks too short for Moto GP).







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From everything I keep reading and hearing, Indy is out. Not sure what will happen with Austin, but I think this is the end for Indy. And factories won't come back to the AMA until they change the rules. There's no reason for factories to put any money into the series as there's no development happening. It's just throwing money away. Thus, all the money that's coming into the series from the manufacturers is coming out of the marketing budget. That won't change until the rules do.
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According to Soup, the upcoming Austin track is a strong candidate for a third Moto GP race in the states.



http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/...0407texas2.htm



Three races would give Moto GP a strong presence in the US. Does anyone think this could nix a factory comeback in the AMA classes? Would the Japanese manufacturers still see a need to market in the AMA series with three grand prix rounds here? Or is it still possible factories could return to AMA racing to promote specific models?


Factories in production bike racing is tricky business. The Japanese don't believe in factory racing teams (hence Ten Kate Honda, Paul Bird Kawasaki, etc) b/c production bike racing shouldn't require restricted factory parts. I tend to agree with them. They ran full factory teams when WSBK was the only 4-stroke development class, but those days are gone. The AMA also has rulebook complications to deal with. I think the manufacturers had control of the rulebook before DMG showed up, DMG have basically pulled an FGSports by stealing the rulebook away. DMG also have control over the homologation papers; though, the Japanese will probably not produce anything that deviates from FIM homologation spec.



I guess what I'm trying to say is that the correlation between MotoGP events and the AMA is quite indirect, imo. Sales have been so poor in the US, I'm not sure the American distributors could throw money at MotoGP without additional funding from the Japanese.
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Will there be 3 USGPs? LINK



Mr. Shupe, I may have to eat crow. But I still very much doubt it.
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Will there be 3 USGPs? LINK



Mr. Shupe, I may have to eat crow. But I still very much doubt it.
shall i cook ya up a batch & bring it to laguna?
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And they're going to call it "Circuit of The Americas." How fucking lame!



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