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July 26th, 2009, 12:17 PM   #1
 
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He knew straight away that he made a boneheaded mistake. He went right over to Ben to apologize. He knew that Ben would be pissed, but he went over there and took his medicine like a man. Unlike what Pedrosa did with Hayden.

The move was stupid, but he manned up and did the right thing.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cankles @ Jul 26 2009, 08:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>He knew straight away that he made a boneheaded mistake. He went right over to Ben to apologize. He knew that Ben would be pissed, but he went over there and took his medicine like a man. Unlike what Pedrosa did with Hayden.

The move was stupid, but he manned up and did the right thing.

I agree 100%. I like Fabi, I like watching him race. He is to WSBK what Lorenzo is to GP. He's young, a bit aggressive and he takes it to the leaders every chance he gets. I thought the move was a bit too much but he is riding his race and trying to make the best of it. Ben Spies has not been anointed king, Fabi had every right to challenge for the position. It didn't work out. We all know Ben will win the championship regardless. Lorenzo is praised for his aggressiveness when he challenged Rossi. Fabi has done the same thing although with a bit less grace....... [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]
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Haga is lucky to have a team mate that can run up front and change the outcome of a race, maybe even a championship.Ben is on an island with absolutley no help what so ever.There are numerous Ducati's that could and should have beat Haga today with him at about 70-80 % but ultimately they are technically Ducati employee's. Yamaha has 1 other bike and a rider that seems incapable of helping at the front,even when the guy he needs to beat is wounded and basically a second a lap of the pace of the leaders. It is becoming obvious that Bens talent is hiding the fact that the Yamaha is not that great of a bike. The Ducati is better and im not sure that the Aprilia isnt as good. Bens racecraft the last 5 laps was what won him that race,not the bike. Biaggi was faster but Ben was making it almost impossible for him to get by by getting in deep on the brakes and blocking the apex. Had that been Fabrizio on his heels, it could have ended ugly like the first race.Biaggi is not a super aggressive rider and i felt a lot better that it was him instead of Fabrizio those last few laps.As for Fabrizio, it was an 06 flashback that made me sick to my stomach but after a few minutes it hit me that this was not as bad since it wasnt a teammate that took him out in the next to last race. Plus he showed he was sorry, not once but twice. Before the second race, did anyone see the sign he held up in his pits saying, I love you Ben. Kind of gay, an" im sorry" would have sufficed. It just makes you wonder though what might happen if we get down to the last few races and Fabrizio has ben eliminated from championship contention,will he show the love and leave it between Haga and Spies, or will he be the wreckless battering ram we have either grown to love or hate.
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Sure, he did the right thing to apologize, but I don't have respect for his riding. I knew from the beginning of the season, when I saw him dice with Haga, that this guy would eventually fuck up big time. He was clearly riding above his head. Sadly, I was right, and he took out the worst possible person. He did a pedrosa, without the chickenshit reaction. But the damage was done.

Fuck Fagbrizio.

The only silver lining is Spies didn't get hurt. But I must say, has the universe conspired to impede him from winning the title?

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (povol @ Jul 26 2009, 08:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>.As for Fabrizio, it was an 06 flashback that made me sick to my stomach but after a few minutes it hit me that this was not as bad since it wasnt a teammate that took him out in the next to last race. Plus he showed he was sorry, not once but twice. Before the second race, did anyone see the sign he held up in his pits saying, I love you Ben. Kind of gay, an" im sorry" would have sufficed. It just makes you wonder though what might happen if we get down to the last few races and Fabrizio has ben eliminated from championship contention,will he show the love and leave it between Haga and Spies, or will he be the wreckless battering ram we have either grown to love or hate.

Nothing I have ever seen or probably will ever see, is worse than what Pedrosa did.

But yes, it reminded me of that. Fagbrizio saved alot of face by going beyond to say he was sorry. That does help. But his riding is unrespectable. It wasn't even half race distance. What type of idiot does this? He is impatient, and this was easily a predictable event, especially when you consider he ran his own teammate hard. I thought he would surely take out Haga before, or at least another rider. It has made me nervous to see this idiot near Spies, and now we all see why.

So yeah, respect for saying sorry, no respect for his idiot riding.

If Ben doesn't win this title, it deserves an astrid.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jul 27 2009, 02:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Nothing I have ever seen or probably will ever see, is worse than what Pedrosa did.

But yes, it reminded me of that. Fagbrizio saved alot of face by going beyond to say he was sorry. That does help. But his riding is unrespectable. It wasn't even half race distance. What type of idiot does this? He is impatient, and this was easily a predictable event, especially when you consider he ran his own teammate hard. I thought he would surely take out Haga before, or at least another rider. It has made me nervous to see this idiot near Spies, and now we all see why.

So yeah, respect for saying sorry, no respect for his idiot riding.

If Ben doesn't win this title, it deserves an astrid.

Astrid? Surely not Queen Astrid Eiriksdottir, daughter of Eirik Bjodaskalle and mother of Olaf I of Norway, who ruled Norway from 995-1000

Seriously - what's an astrid?
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Fabrizio..... oh Fabrizio, what the hell were you thinking. Spies -25 points. Good of him to apologize, although he went a bit overboard in that department (probably in effort to disguise he major fuck up). And this isn't the first time Fabio has pulled an overly aggressive pass, take out another rider, then apologize.

Perhaps you guys may remember this from Portimao:
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Yes this is racing, but he has done this too many times, perhaps he needs to take a lesson from his fellow Roman (Biaggi) and do the smart thing, don't pass if you know it won't stick. As Biaggi said in the post race interview of race 2, he knew he couldn't pass and didn't want to do "what happened in race 1".
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Keshav @ Jul 27 2009, 06:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Astrid? Surely not Queen Astrid Eiriksdottir, daughter of Eirik Bjodaskalle and mother of Olaf I of Norway, who ruled Norway from 995-1000

Seriously - what's an astrid?

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Thanks for the links I had'nt seen it. Too funny, dont get on the wrong side of Ben. I thought he was going to punch the helmet off Fabby

^^^^Edit... Oops That was Biaggi and Fabby.^^^^



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That was totally unnecessary from Fabby he was never going to go thru on ben on that line. Racing incident sure but he was asking too much of himself. The two crashs are very similar seems like Fabby dose not learn from his mistakes. Ben was really cool about it I'm gutted for him
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (johnny @ Jul 27 2009, 07:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Thanks for the links I had'nt seen it. Too funny, dont get on the wrong side of Ben. I thought he was going to punch the helmet off Fabby

Haha, hi Jon, yeah that made me laugh, that is after I got over the initial shock and anger. I didn't remember that about Fabi, thanks Boots. My subconscious must have known though, because its clear he riders way above his head. He screwed up on so many levels too, I mean WTF, and this wasn't for the win in the last lap. And the guy you are passing stands to gain the points lead. And...If you take him out your intention is suspect becasue its your teammates rival. On thing is to race him hard, another thing is to try an impossible move at a turn where Spies was killing it. Bad move.

I'm convinced race direction does not exist in WSBK. I mean, look at Biaggi's re-entering of the race when he almost took out another rider or when Checa torpedoed Neucher; not so much as a "incident under review" at very least pretending to care. Yeah, we can all say he didn't "intend" to crash, but does anybody ever intend to crash? NO. Intention to do harm is never the standard, but stupid dangerous reckless riding is, and this clearly fits the bill. This is the guy that has the most wins you just torpedoed who has beat you routinely, what the fuck did Fagbriz think he was going to do, win?
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