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August 26th, 2009, 10:32 AM   #1
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Counter steering a motor cycle.this is how it works.theres a link at the end of part 1 to part 2 etc.
these are the individual links.
motogp pics in each part.so is this journalist saying this is how he reads motogp racers counter steer.?
dont know the site or the writer/journalist.?

DC-Motorcycle-Travel-Examiner

what do ya think.!!!!

part 1

part 2


part 3

part 4

part 5
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August 26th, 2009, 11:39 AM   #2
 
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I dont think you can lean and not counter steer. most peeps dont realise there doing it.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Aug 26 2009, 08:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I dont think you can lean and not counter steer. most peeps dont realise there doing it.
You can lean slightly, but try taking your hands off the bars and leaning the bike using just your body weight - it's pretty damn hard, and almost impossible when you get some speed up.

It feels a bit weird at first when you do it consciously, but it's amazing how quick you can turn a bike at speed when you get used to it. I honestly don't know how I ever managed to ride before I learnt about it.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Aug 26 2009, 08:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I dont think you can lean and not counter steer.

Its easy if you are going slow
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Sep 3 2009, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Its easy if you are going slow
but you don't really lean when your going slow.
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personally id say i use this technique as follows:

60 % is going into the corner by countersteering, 40% by using my body(weight).

its amazing how many riders who ride 4 years dont know this thing!!!

but after many years im doing it youre not thinking about it...it simply works, U just do it.
today i couldnt imagine going without...a combination of BOTH is the fastest way to get your bike into the corner quite late.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PASSI @ Sep 5 2009, 09:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>personally id say i use this technique as follows:

60 % is going into the corner by countersteering, 40% by using my body(weight).

its amazing how many riders who ride 4 years dont know this thing!!!

but after many years im doing it youre not thinking about it...it simply works, U just do it.
today i couldnt imagine going without...a combination of BOTH is the fastest way to get your bike into the corner quite late.
I's also the quickest way to flick the bike in a given direction, and lift it up out of a corner. I reckon most riders are counter-steering practically form day one without even realizing it.

Once you become conscious of it, you can start to deploy it for other means, and then it simply becomes a function of the sub-conscious again.
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thats very true yes!

i have to say: perhaps when i dont go too fast (sitting STRAIGHT on the bike) i use CS to do 80% of the job! but when i ride with hang off (which i can do perfect with knee down to be honest, but i put my body and ass to the side of the bike) i use it 50 or 60%.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chopperman @ Sep 4 2009, 06:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>but you don't really lean when your going slow.

I don't mean that slow! Just at town speeds you can lean a bike without counter steering. It's just easy and more natural to just counter steer.
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