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May 16th, 2016, 05:35 AM   #41
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I agree about the RBR switch JPS. I too think it is coincidental that the golden boy got the strategy call. On a track that is virtually impossible to pass, why were they worried about the Ferrari passing Ricardio?

I think Hamiltons move was massively overoptimistic, but I do also think Rosberg chopped him a bit late. However, I think this was due to two reasons; the first being he had no idea iin his mirrors of Hamiltons speed differential and also I think he wanted to prove a point that he isn't going to jump out of Hamiltons way anymore, he's certainly looked more aggressive from what little I've seen of him this season.
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I agree about the RBR switch JPS. I too think it is coincidental that the golden boy got the strategy call. On a track that is virtually impossible to pass, why were they worried about the Ferrari passing Ricardio?

I think Hamiltons move was massively overoptimistic, but I do also think Rosberg chopped him a bit late. However, I think this was due to two reasons; the first being he had no idea iin his mirrors of Hamiltons speed differential and also I think he wanted to prove a point that he isn't going to jump out of Hamiltons way anymore, he's certainly looked more aggressive from what little I've seen of him this season.
The worst thing is we will have to hear endlessly about how Verstappen is the real deal. I don't think he is the second coming of anyone or anything. Talented? Certainly. Just not to the level the media would have us believe, or even his old man would have the world believe.

Hamilton's got an entitlement problem, and I think that move was the entitlement in a nutshell where he probably figured after Spa 2014, Rosberg would never make a move on him again for fear of running afoul of the team bosses. Problem for him now is it looks like the team dynamic has shifted, and Hamilton is the odd man out. That $50 million per season contract was inexplicably stupid on Mercedes part as I don't think he is the sort of person that is going to appeal to the average Mercedes buyer with his stupid flat brimmed hats and bling-bling lifestyle. Probably has dawned upon them that paying a fraction of that amount to win titles is a lot better. The car is faster than anyone else on the grid, so it really doesn't matter who is behind the wheel in my estimation. Rosberg is more than enough...plus getting him the title this year shuts up Keke and everyone else.
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Driving to deltas isn't exactly like driving to the limit.
Care to explain? I'm unsure what this means.
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Care to explain? I'm unsure what this means.
You cannot drive a modern Formula 1 car to the limit of what the machine can do because the tires are not designed with performance in mind. Pirelli's tires are noted for their high degradation, while offering reduced performance all in an effort to spice up the racing. The racing is not interesting for the most part, and the driver's aren't capable of pushing the machine to it's engineering limits because it would put excessive strain on the tires, causing them to wear out very quickly. This is due to Pirelli designing the tires so there is a layer of plastic inside, that once it heats up too much, it melts and hardens, thus reducing overall grip levels. Once that happens, you cannot obviously undo it.

In addition, since it's all about saving fuel now, one of the easiest ways to do this is to lift and coast into corners, and to run engine maps that are focused on conservation.

The drivers have target times to drive to (deltas) to take into account the fuel and tires. It doesn't mean the guys don't battle on track, but it does explain a lot of why the racing has become so ghastly now.

The cars still do get around the track quickly, but they aren't exactly driving on the limit the way they once did.

When David Coulthard won first grand prix at Estoril in 1995, he had Michael Schumacher behind him for much of the race. Coulthard commented that with how hard Schumacher was pushing behind him, to maintain the pace necessary to stay in front of Schumacher, he thought he was going to crash because of the pace they were driving at. You will never hear stuff like that again with the way modern F1 is conducted.
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The worst thing is we will have to hear endlessly about how Verstappen is the real deal. I don't think he is the second coming of anyone or anything. Talented? Certainly. Just not to the level the media would have us believe, or even his old man would have the world believe.
Oh yes. I love how when a new F1 driver comes in with so much hype around him, everyone jumps on the bandwagon. I criticised Verstappen last yr for his immaturity (and entitlement) for trying to blame Grosjean for the Monaco crash. He was too immature to say "I'm sorry, I fucked up" and that comes from, as you have said, people licking his arse and telling him his whole life he is the best thing since sliced bread. I mantioned this on crashnet and was labelled 'Jealous, Hater' and "When did you last race an F1 car" etc. It still didn't change the point that the kid was acting like an entitled brat and was lucky to have even been around to apologise. Even 10 years ago that crash would have most likely killed him.

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Oh tell me about it. He's had it all his life. I had the distinct displeasure of being in the same kart racing paddock as him early in my career, and when I wasn't I heard an awful lot of the same. He's a total diva.

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When David Coulthard won first grand prix at Estoril in 1995, he had Michael Schumacher behind him for much of the race. Coulthard commented that with how hard Schumacher was pushing behind him, to maintain the pace necessary to stay in front of Schumacher, he thought he was going to crash because of the pace they were driving at. You will never hear stuff like that again with the way modern F1 is conducted.
I was watching clips from Imola 1994 weekend this morning, and it was great hearing all the different engine types. I loved the 2001-2004 seasons too, but only to watch Montoya's onboards with that screaming beemer V10. I personally think Montoya had a huge natural talent, possibly up there with the likes of Gilles Villenueve and Senna, but his wrists were slapped by the FIA et al because he had the balls to race Shitmacher.

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Sooo.... you watched the san Marino race that took place 10 years later?
Big juan fan here, you can even call me juansohn.
But that shit is laughable and u know it
Couldn't keep it together, played tennis and all that shit.
But yeah. Mafiarrari or wtf ever fits the narrative
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I was a huge F1 fan but stopped in the late 90's when F1 became boring and a self parody. I still love Ferrari but don't watch it anymore.
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