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September 28th, 2012, 08:33 AM   #11
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"Oh well."



Lulu's got great speed, but his head has never been screwed on quite right.



Button must be





Mercedes is likely to show Herr Cheatmeister the door, and not a day too soon. "SEE YA!"
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Hamilton like him or not will have Mercedes on the poll in some races, as far as winning races...I'm not so sure?

Brawn and his team will have loads of pressure to deliver on a competitive car.
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Hamilton like him or not will have Mercedes on the poll in some races, as far as winning races...I'm not so sure?

Brawn and his team will have loads of pressure to deliver on a competitive car.


I don't know that he'll be that much faster than Nico or Schuey.



After Hamilton's transmission melt down, McLaren can now forget about this season and put all their $ into developing the 2013 car. I think they'll kick Mercedes' butt next year. I really can't understand why Lewis felt the need to jump ship. Was it really all about money?
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It's not all about money, it's about personal sponsorship, the chance to keep his trophies when he wins them, and the fact I have no doubt that Mercedes have told him they're already working on the new car for 2014 when the regulations change. If you recall Brawn did that a couple of years back and they had far and away the best car on the grid for a while allowing Button to win the championship with the whole double diffuser thing.



Hamilton may get the odd pole position and podium next year, he's not going to win the 2013 championship in a Merc though, I'll state that as a solid prediction here and now!



Geonerd I reckon Schumacher could retire, or he could just go to Sauber, after all there's an opening now that McLaren have signed up Perez to replace Hamilton. I'd like to see him retire again myself, but you never know, some people just won't go away.
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Ross Brawns team have won the title more recently than Mclaren have. Also a quick look back at the records and you'll see that in the last 20 years or so you either need to be in Ross Brawn or Adrian Newey's team to win.
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Ross Brawns team have won the title more recently than Mclaren have. Also a quick look back at the records and you'll see that in the last 20 years or so you either need to be in Ross Brawn or Adrian Newey's team to win.


Quite true, but Ross Brawn did it with the whole double diffuser thing before it got banned after the regs change, where have they been since that? McLaren consistently have a competitive car, Merc don't. So if Alonso wins it this year, and he might, it will be without either Newey or Brawn, so it can be done but I take your point Tom.
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Quite true, but Ross Brawn did it with the whole double diffuser thing before it got banned after the regs change, where have they been since that? McLaren consistently have a competitive car, Merc don't. So if Alonso wins it this year, and he might, it will be without either Newey or Brawn, so it can be done but I take your point Tom.


Yea, and I'm not trying to pretend Mercedes have been anything other than mediocre in the last couple of years. The point I am trying to make is that the calibre is there, I think it will be interesting to see how things unfold.
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not trying to take anything away from newey,but his cars at mclaren weren't all that great. big fan of both kimi and mika so maybe theres some bias i admit.



i would never rule out mercedes for a championship, look at how well lotus are doing right now.

come to think of it, any possibility that schumacher could end up there?

he may not be as good as he used to be (no wonder at that age) , but he was able to to keep up with rosberg very well this year.

yes, numbers don't lie, blabla, but when you watch the races its definately not like rosberg pulls half a second away from schumacher every lap.

and i think rosberg is right up there talent wise with vettel,hamilton and alonso, so thats a good way of measuring schumacher.

i firmly believe he is still good for podiums and wins on his day.look at how alonso did in his second time at renault and how greatly he improved once he was in a competitive car again. not saying schumacher can do the same, but you know, he can still be up there IMO
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Bleh, I think Hamilton is going to regret his decision. I doubt he will be winning any championships with Merc.
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not trying to take anything away from newey,but his cars at mclaren weren't all that great. big fan of both kimi and mika so maybe theres some bias i admit.



i would never rule out mercedes for a championship, look at how well lotus are doing right now.

come to think of it, any possibility that schumacher could end up there?

he may not be as good as he used to be (no wonder at that age) , but he was able to to keep up with rosberg very well this year.

yes, numbers don't lie, blabla, but when you watch the races its definately not like rosberg pulls half a second away from schumacher every lap.

and i think rosberg is right up there talent wise with vettel,hamilton and alonso, so thats a good way of measuring schumacher.

i firmly believe he is still good for podiums and wins on his day.look at how alonso did in his second time at renault and how greatly he improved once he was in a competitive car again. not saying schumacher can do the same, but you know, he can still be up there IMO


I doubt Schumacher will end up at Lotus somehow, I am pretty sure Raikkonen is on a multi year contract for one thing and Grosjean hasn't done that bad a job, well when he's not crashing that is rolls eyes



Rosberg has won a race this season and had a couple of other podiums I believe, Schumacher has had one podium since his return to F1, yes he's been closer to Nico this year, but is that really enough? He's also had two fairly major crashes from misjudging the closing speed between himself and the car in front. It could be time for him to hang up his helmet a second time if you ask me.
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