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March 3rd, 2012, 11:43 AM   #11
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NASCAR got an unexpected surprise after the race. They found out that Monday night racing is ready for primetime . Most watched Daytona 500 ever.
Interesting. So attendance doesnt matter much eh?
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Fuck yea.

I dont watch Nascar and unless its football season or a race the tv is not on on sunday.

I heard it was on mon night and i actually watched some of it. ( does 10 minutes count? Hell its a start)

That was my thought . Why not mon night. Everyone is home unlike a sunday and looking for something to watch
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NASCAR got an unexpected surprise after the race. They found out that Monday night racing is ready for primetime . Most watched Daytona 500 ever.


And if they used SOHC/DOHC instead of OHV they'd probably have a dozen manufacturers. The fans will never go along with it, and if Daytona 500 is somehow moved to Monday night, they'll have to give ISC a giant kickback (even if they are basically the same company).
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That was the wildest incident I have ever seen in a race. Juan's really lucky he wasn't burned with all the jet fuel sprayed around, not to mention the guy driving the truck.



Otherwise that was a terrible race. NASCAR restrictor plate racing is something apart from actual racing, it seems. It would seem the entertainment value comes from anticipating the wrecks instead of watching cars race. I wish they would flatten the turns and let the drivers actually race. Stock car racing's biggest event is a lottery...a joke.
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That was the wildest incident I have ever seen in a race. Juan's really lucky he wasn't burned with all the jet fuel sprayed around, not to mention the guy driving the truck.



Otherwise that was a terrible race. NASCAR restrictor plate racing is something apart from actual racing, it seems. It would seem the entertainment value comes from anticipating the wrecks instead of watching cars race. I wish they would flatten the turns and let the drivers actually race. Stock car racing's biggest event is a lottery...a joke.
Or simply give them the 950 hp back. It is not racing when you never have to lift, like you said , its a lottery. I really shouldnt say its not racing, since some are actually better than others at restrictor plate racing, but its not good racing.. a couple of years ago, they let a car go out at Talladega without plates, and it averaged 221 mph. It was hitting around 240 on the straights, down to around 200 on the corners. That would seperate the men from the boys.
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Interesting. So attendance doesnt matter much eh?


Asses in seats sets the barometer to how popular a sport is. TV contracts are negotiated off of popularity. If fans quit showing up for races, the tv contract would shrink accordingly. There is no sport that has a huge tv contract that does not have asses in seats, and bunches of them.
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Or simply give them the 950 hp back. It is not racing when you never have to lift, like you said , its a lottery. I really shouldnt say its not racing, since some are actually better than others at restrictor plate racing, but its not good racing.. a couple of years ago, they let a car go out at Talladega without plates, and it averaged 221 mph. It was hitting around 240 on the straights, down to around 200 on the corners. That would seperate the men from the boys.


But stock cars apparently can't stay on the ground at those speeds when they get sideways, otherwise I would agree. Restrictor plates arguably make for potentially good drama for casual viewers. A lot more drivers can win if they have a good motor and/or survive the crashes (Derrick Cope, Sterling Marlin, Michael Waltrip, Trevor Bayne, etc.). When the series gets to the 1.5 miles and short tracks, the cream usually rises to the top and there are fewer darkhorses.



That said, as a serious racing fan I find the pack racing hard to stomach. Everyone stays glued together for 480 miles, waiting for the end and watching out for "the big one." At times it seems random: one smaller group breaks away out front, then the larger group catches up somehow. The seesaw action between last year's tandems was really funky. Apart from Montoya's crash, This year's 500 was quite dull. That fire may be the only thing memorable about this year's race.
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But stock cars apparently can't stay on the ground at those speeds when they get sideways, otherwise I would agree. Restrictor plates arguably make for potentially good drama for casual viewers. A lot more drivers can win if they have a good motor and/or survive the crashes (Derrick Cope, Sterling Marlin, Michael Waltrip, Trevor Bayne, etc.). When the series gets to the 1.5 miles and short tracks, the cream usually rises to the top and there are fewer darkhorses.



That said, as a serious racing fan I find the pack racing hard to stomach. Everyone stays glued together for 480 miles, waiting for the end and watching out for "the big one." At times it seems random: one smaller group breaks away out front, then the larger group catches up somehow. The seesaw action between last year's tandems was really funky. Apart from Montoya's crash, This year's 500 was quite dull. That fire may be the only thing memorable about this year's race.
Fuck em, let em fly. Bill Elliott said it best, Build taller catch fences, give us our motors back.
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Fuck em, let em fly. Bill Elliott said it best, Build taller catch fences, give us our motors back.


I'm not sure what kind of fence would hold a 3,000 lbs stock car going 220 or faster. Carl Edwards ripped the fence apart doing 195. Also, who knows how well the cars would hold up if they scraped fence posts at those speeds.
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I'm not sure what kind of fence would hold a 3,000 lbs stock car going 220 or faster. Carl Edwards ripped the fence apart doing 195. Also, who knows how well the cars would hold up if they scraped fence posts at those speeds.
Shupe, it's a risk no doubt, racing is dangerous. NASCAR attendance has been so low, they probably have room to move most spectators up the grand stands to keep them out of harms way, but the dude standing on the flag stand is fucked!!!
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