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September 10th, 2021, 04:36 PM   #1
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What are touring bikes doing that sportbikes arenít??

Used to hate ADV guys, now I am one. I traded my s1000r for a Multistarada and damn, if I would have known touring bikes are putting out this kind of power I wouldíve went there years ago. What can a sport bike do that a touring bike cannot?? I saw thereís a thread up right now of a guy asking why liter bikes on public roads. I canít believe some people. Iím strictly euro liter bikes. My Multistrada is killing the game, but I want to trade it for a bmw. XR maybe? GS?
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September 11th, 2021, 05:39 AM   #2
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Used to hate ADV guys, now I am one. I traded my s1000r for a Multistarada and damn, if I would have known touring bikes are putting out this kind of power I wouldíve went there years ago. What can a sport bike do that a touring bike cannot?? I saw thereís a thread up right now of a guy asking why liter bikes on public roads. I canít believe some people. Iím strictly euro liter bikes. My Multistrada is killing the game, but I want to trade it for a bmw. XR maybe? GS?
I dont want an ADV bike. I dont like the looks of any off them and I dont do the type of riding that would require one. Some of them are very powerful I know but not as powerful or as fast as the bike I choose to ride. For me riding is an emotional experience and ADV bikes have always screamed " look at me I am Mr sensible, boxes to put the kitchen sink in and some pressed shirts. Remember, they were first conceived as a way to get non bikers into riding to make up for the declining number of riders and the negative image biking attained. I am sure they are capable machines and in the right hands are as quick as Sports bikes/Hyperbikes in most situations but when pushing the limits they are not as quick (depending on the rider skill level). I will keep my 220hp Hyperbike that allows me to to blast up to 200mph occasionally and take my breath away with the acceleration everyday. Each to their own and riding motorcycles is a broad church. Ride Fast!
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September 11th, 2021, 06:23 AM   #3
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Used to hate ADV guys, now I am one. I traded my s1000r for a Multistarada and damn, if I would have known touring bikes are putting out this kind of power I would’ve went there years ago. What can a sport bike do that a touring bike cannot?? I saw there’s a thread up right now of a guy asking why liter bikes on public roads. I can’t believe some people. I’m strictly euro liter bikes. My Multistrada is killing the game, but I want to trade it for a bmw. XR maybe? GS?
I never thought I wanted an ADV bike, but my other bikes at the time were race prepped supermotos with no passenger pegs, and I had some extra dough for a third bike. I wanted something relatively sporty that I could take my wife for rides on. She has a motorcycle license but stopped riding. So I got a Triumph Tiger XCx 800. Brilliant bike on the road, makes great power and surprisingly nimble for such a heavy bike, very easy to find yourself scraping the pegs. But I ended up selling it. Two things, the triple engine which is really smooth, makes this irritating whine. Even with state of the art earplugs it just drove me to distraction. The other thing (which you don't feel when riding) is it's too top heavy. I'm in good shape and work out at the gym regularly, but I'm 5.10 and weigh 145 and backing it into my garage was a nightmare. Always afraid of dropping it. So sold it. Picked up a 2011 BMW F800R which is not an ADV, but still super comfortable for long rides and really light for the class. Super smooth power delivery and overall really competent. Only issue, BMW cheaped out on the front suspension with no settings for pre-load etc. The bike wandered and got easily out of shape with potholes and bumps. I went through Race Tech who make high quality springs for competition bikes and they sold me springs that were perfect for my weight and riding style cartridge emulators, and now the bike is insanely confidence inspiring. Rides like it's on rails. Totally in love with it.

Real "Touring bikes" are like Laz-Boy couches on two wheels. They weigh a ton and are best suited to the over 80 crowd who want to ride 300 miles a day in livingroom comfort. Not a lot of fun in the twisties. And god help you if they tip over while you're at the side of the road 100 miles from the nearest human. Different strokes . . .

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September 11th, 2021, 06:39 AM   #4
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Check out Toni Bouís IG. He tosses an Africa Twin around like it a trials.

My friend rode a multistrada. He called it the greatest motor heís ever experienced.
Im afraid to ride a GS. I may like it too much����

Unfortunately, you wonít get much response on this topic. Although this is a motorbike forum, nobody on here rides.
On the other hand, if you drive a go cart, you might get some engagement
So much anger, so much hate....
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September 11th, 2021, 03:13 PM   #6
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Have owned a few ADV bikes over the years but mainly road bikes, and none in a sports type of brigade and all of them have been fun.

The ADV allowed me to get to places the roadies would not go and opened up a whole new level of exploration and fun and they could boogie enough on road to keep me smiling which is why we ride.

Now, I have the lazy-ass touring 3 wheeler (can-am Spyder) and the toy (Ducati Monster) and both provide different levels of fun ............ it is horses for courses.

That said, to me the ADV category is a great category as it provides so many options in how you want to ride and where plus, follow an ADV on dirt when it is ridden by someone who has an idea (not me) and they are sensational. Rode with a guy who had competed at national Off Road events in Oz who was on a BMW GS1150 a few years back and watching what he could do was bloody awesome.
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Have owned a few ADV bikes over the years but mainly road bikes, and none in a sports type of brigade and all of them have been fun.

The ADV allowed me to get to places the roadies would not go and opened up a whole new level of exploration and fun and they could boogie enough on road to keep me smiling which is why we ride.

Now, I have the lazy-ass touring 3 wheeler (can-am Spyder) and the toy (Ducati Monster) and both provide different levels of fun ............ it is horses for courses.

That said, to me the ADV category is a great category as it provides so many options in how you want to ride and where plus, follow an ADV on dirt when it is ridden by someone who has an idea (not me) and they are sensational. Rode with a guy who had competed at national Off Road events in Oz who was on a BMW GS1150 a few years back and watching what he could do was bloody awesome.
But can you back it in?
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September 11th, 2021, 04:03 PM   #8
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My Multistrada 1260s is just as fast as my s1000r was. I’ve hit 160mph on my Multistrada
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But can you back it in?
Yes.

It has a reverse gear





As for rear out, damn TC, ABS and Stability stop it
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September 11th, 2021, 05:21 PM   #10
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Have owned a few ADV bikes over the years but mainly road bikes, and none in a sports type of brigade and all of them have been fun.

The ADV allowed me to get to places the roadies would not go and opened up a whole new level of exploration and fun and they could boogie enough on road to keep me smiling which is why we ride.

Now, I have the lazy-ass touring 3 wheeler (can-am Spyder) and the toy (Ducati Monster) and both provide different levels of fun ............ it is horses for courses.

That said, to me the ADV category is a great category as it provides so many options in how you want to ride and where plus, follow an ADV on dirt when it is ridden by someone who has an idea (not me) and they are sensational. Rode with a guy who had competed at national Off Road events in Oz who was on a BMW GS1150 a few years back and watching what he could do was bloody awesome.
The Bimmer I have now is the first BMW I've ridden. My riding buddy tells me the BMW ADV bikes are much lighter with lower center of gravity than the Triumph that I had previously. I've never done much dirt riding, except in Vietnam, and that was on a rented Honda CRV 250 about three years ago. It was fun, but having zero prior experience with dirt, I was regularly unnerved whenever I hit really wet stuff, which was often, since we rode through rice paddies to get to the little villages where the guide would hook us up for a place to sleep.
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