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April 19th, 2017, 09:14 PM   #21
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I like the NSU Bison 1000

But lately this is what Id like to try


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April 20th, 2017, 08:41 AM   #22
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I would say that 80% of the first time riders that I sell bikes to are buying 600cc class sport bikes. I think a lot of it has to do with how they are priced in the used market... its hard to sell a ninja 250 for $2000 when I have a CBR600RR sitting next to it for $2300... for that reason I rarely stock smaller cc bikes
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I would say that 80% of the first time riders that I sell bikes to are buying 600cc class sport bikes. I think a lot of it has to do with how they are priced in the used market... its hard to sell a ninja 250 for $2000 when I have a CBR600RR sitting next to it for $2300... for that reason I rarely stock smaller cc bikes
We had 2 nice 2008 Gixxer 600's lately that both sold for over 6k. Can't keep sport bikes under 7-8 k on the floor, can't give away a new one
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April 20th, 2017, 07:40 PM   #24
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I have a cbr600rr that has never been on the road, always a race bike. built to regs for supersport here in Aust.

I just find it very satisfying riding the smaller bikes. I'm too tall for the rs125's etc, but love them and had a proddy rgv 250 back in the day. Would love another but the cbr is just put in fuel and press start.
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April 21st, 2017, 11:26 PM   #25
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I would find it hard to argue that 1000cc Sports bikes aren't overkill for the road. It doesn't stop me for wanting one though. I've been riding a 2001 Gsxr600 for about 10 years now with the opportunity to ride a few 1000cc bikes in my time and the mid range torque has been an intoxicating experience in comparison. I'd also like say that it is amazing what you can ride if you respect the power, stay in your comfort zone, and don't let your ambition outweigh your talent.
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April 22nd, 2017, 03:35 AM   #26
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JPS, a lot would depend on the bike in question, the manner of riding (solo, two-up) and where you ride but my thoughts have always been that litre sportsbikes are overkill for the public as essentially you will never see them ridden near their potential, but then, is the bike bought to ride to it's potential?

IMO only but as with Hollywood, the 600 sportbikes of today are as overkill as the thousands but again are bought like loaves of bread.

I have had two 500cc parallel twins (Suzuki GS500) that was awesome fun on twisty roads and very licence preserving on straight roads which was a hoot to ride as, for me it is the enjoyment of riding.

Have also had two DL650 V-stroms (Weestroms) and they are heaps of fun to rid in the twisty stuff and comfortable as an armchair on a long tour. Great bikes actually.

Thing is, I know a lot of people out where I live who have cruisers and ride two up so have the big cruisers as they also lug camping gear, some even a trailer and whilst a smaller capacity could do it, the larger capacity does it far easier. Mind you, I live in a region of straight roads with few bends, thus the cruiser mindset out here and thy are all of the 1200 - 2000 range (not all harleys)

The biggest issue of the 1 litre sportsbikes in Oz is that we constantly hear of calls to ban them or restrict them as they so often end up in hands of posers who have NFI as to any signs of limits and simply want to twist the throttle or raise the front wheel with no thought given to time, space which so often means trips to hospitals or worse.

That said, there are exceptions as I can see why AJV wanted the H2R as it is a unique machine and not common, same with Desmosedici owners, why not have that 'special'.

Bah, I rattled on but in short for me the 1 litres are overkill (have ridden a few, way to much motor for me) but each their own on them really although for mine, on a twisty road, not much beats a 250cc two stroke
Not many regrets in life but I do wish I'd bought one of those nice Canadian RZ350s back in the '80s when you could pick one up for under three grand. Now people are selling the ones not raced for sixteen to twenty-two thousand.
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I love cruising motorcycle forums for the posts on any of the 600 Supersport of 1000cc Superbike forums just for the posts of: "Just got my license, can I handle a <insert bike> as my first bike?" I had friends who started out on 600cc supersports, and while they didn't wind up paralyzed like the ones you mentioned, one ultimately lost his leg when he upgraded a number of years later to a R1 because he was doing stupid shit on it, and the other quit riding saying he wanted to get out a live...although if you saw how he rode, I felt most of his close calls were of his own making. I'm glad I actually went with cruisers first because they are far more manageable from a beginner standpoint but are heavy enough they teach you a lot about balance/negotiating tight corners. But I'm getting the itch for something fast and that handles. Would like to be able to hit a lot of the country roads in northern NJ with something that will tip over quickly relative to my current bike for when I'm in the mood to ride harder.

NJ's license requirements are a joke as well. I went through the MSF course and it was good, but man some of those people in the class...I can't help but wonder if they survived the public roads or not. As long as you pass the written test and the "road" test at the MSF course, you bring the paperwork to the DMV and they issue you the license. Not much of a standard. Problem in the US now is implementing real standards for a motorcycle license would be a bitch and a half at this point. I don't think using a cc limit the way the UK does is the answer. But I do think something needs to be done to keep people off the legitimately fast bikes till they are ready for it.

A friend of mine bought a Hayabusa because she liked the way the bike looked when she went to see it, and felt that given the distance she drove to look at the bike required buying it so she didn't go home empty-handed. It wasn't her first bike by any means, but she told me that the bike scared the living shit out of her when she got it home and rode it. Which I think is a healthy response to have more because it means you will respect the bike and what it can really do. Then meanwhile on the internet, it's all, "Bros, you think a 'Busa is too much bike for my first bike?"
Ha! I took the MSF course in "80. There was one guy there who'd ridden across country and back twice without ever using the front brake. He was afraid of going over the bars - on a Goldwing! I still remember the instructor face-palming when he heard that.

Being an experienced rider doesn't necessarily preclude stupid. 6 years ago - I was trying to make a red light I always got stuck at in Chinatown; gunned the motor on my R6 and hit a huge bump where the asphalt had got wavy from August heat; got airborne and didn't touch down til almost the other side of Delancey Street (four lanes of traffic). I just about kissed the steering damper. That's when I decided to get rid of the R6.
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I would find it hard to argue that 1000cc Sports bikes aren't overkill for the road. It doesn't stop me for wanting one though. I've been riding a 2001 Gsxr600 for about 10 years now with the opportunity to ride a few 1000cc bikes in my time and the mid range torque has been an intoxicating experience in comparison. I'd also like say that it is amazing what you can ride if you respect the power, stay in your comfort zone, and don't let your ambition outweigh your talent.
If I could handle/manage the weight and capability of liter supersuport bikes, I'd love to have one too. Or even some adventure bikes like Afrika Twin (although I looked like a fly on a buffalo when I got on it at the show.)

That being said, I basically learned how to ride on my 300cc and still love how it flick through the twisties. I recently put Pirelli Diablo Rosso II, and holy mackerel, I can't wait to go back up the mountain again.
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If I could handle/manage the weight and capability of liter supersuport bikes, I'd love to have one too. Or even some adventure bikes like Afrika Twin (although I looked like a fly on a buffalo when I got on it at the show.)

That being said, I basically learned how to ride on my 300cc and still love how it flick through the twisties. I recently put Pirelli Diablo Rosso II, and holy mackerel, I can't wait to go back up the mountain again.
Surely you arent as tiny on the ninja as this pocket rocket ....

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she's an ex student .......and a dynamo at everything she does ....
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Surely you arent as tiny on the ninja as this pocket rocket ....

https://m.facebook.com/Keegan-Picker...ref=ts&fref=ts
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she's an ex student .......and a dynamo at everything she does ....
Cute. I wish I started out young too with a good riding teacher. But considering my personality, I probably would have been dead by now if I did.
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