Originally Posted by Arrabbiata1

I've seen talented riders smoke hyper sports bikes on RS125s. The 250 was a true track day weapon in the right hands.

Totally agree. The other thing that frustrates me on the track is the buffer of electronics these days. You can visibly see electronic aids managing a lap time. I worry that to some it not only results in an overestimation of ability but a sense of invincibility which is a very dangerous thing - particularly if they ride on the road. Modern electronics should be deployed to enhance and compliment a riders ability not compensate for inability.

Originally Posted by Arrabbiata1

I've seen talented riders smoke hyper sports bikes on RS125s. The 250 was a true track day weapon in the right hands.

Totally agree. The other thing that frustrates me on the track is the buffer of electronics these days. You can visibly see electronic aids managing a lap time. I worry that to some it not only results in an overestimation of ability but a sense of invincibility which is a very dangerous thing - particularly if they ride on the road. Modern electronics should be deployed to enhance and compliment a riders ability not compensate for inability.

Originally Posted by AJV80

Kind of takes all the fun out of it for me, The thing I love about riding is the mechanical connection you have with the bike. Nothing wrong with electronic aids to assist the rider but when they get to the level that you just basically ham fist a 200hp bike out of a corner and nothing bad happens. I think it will begin to make people de-sensitized to the risks and lose respect for the power of these bikes.

Originally Posted by Richy56

I'll second that, I have a rgv 250 and on my local twisties and short straights it's pisses on most bigger bikes.



I had a zx10r for a few years and whilst it's was great fun and easy to ride at slow speeds it's just was too much for English roads. I also had a 04 kawa 636 which was brill, wish I had kept it. Lots of torque, modern 600 are a bit top end.

Originally Posted by yamfan

In my youth I had a 350lc and a 500lc. Probably the best biking days I've had were on those bikes. You can't beat a good two stroker for a thrash around the twisties, modern litre sports bikes are too much and better suited to the track. I wish I hadn't sold the buggers though, their values are going through the roof nowadays.

Originally Posted by Richy56

Your rights values are going up! Always wanted to ride a 500 stroker, never got the chance.

I use my Yz for enduro too, it's light, easy to maintain and loads of torque for those big hills.

Originally Posted by Hollywood

As a dealer, the 600cc sport bikes no longer makes sense. the price is to high for the typical buyer, and the performance difference is not that great compared to the used market (at a fraction of the price).

Originally Posted by Richy56

Your rights values are going up! Always wanted to ride a 500 stroker, never got the chance.

I use my Yz for enduro too, it's light, easy to maintain and loads of torque for those big hills.

Originally Posted by Arrabbiata1

Unlike Yamfan, I had the RD400 - much to my chagrin, everyone else was on Beckett or Stan Stephens tuned LCs. Had a mate with an RG500 though. Whenever I rode it I had the clutch lever covered!! Bizarrely though, the 350LC had a bigger kick - or rather, the powerband was narrower and came in like a light switch.



Remember the X7? Had a tricked up one for track - sprayed black with a 7Up livery - tuned to buggery. Used to take it down to Santa Pod to slay middle weight muscle bikes.