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September 20th, 2016, 03:05 AM   #11
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I've seen talented riders smoke hyper sports bikes on RS125s. The 250 was a true track day weapon in the right hands.

Totally agree. The other thing that frustrates me on the track is the buffer of electronics these days. You can visibly see electronic aids managing a lap time. I worry that to some it not only results in an overestimation of ability but a sense of invincibility which is a very dangerous thing - particularly if they ride on the road. Modern electronics should be deployed to enhance and compliment a riders ability not compensate for inability.
I'll second that, I have a rgv 250 and on my local twisties and short straights it's pisses on most bigger bikes.

I had a zx10r for a few years and whilst it's was great fun and easy to ride at slow speeds it's just was too much for English roads. I also had a 04 kawa 636 which was brill, wish I had kept it. Lots of torque, modern 600 are a bit top end.
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I've seen talented riders smoke hyper sports bikes on RS125s. The 250 was a true track day weapon in the right hands.

Totally agree. The other thing that frustrates me on the track is the buffer of electronics these days. You can visibly see electronic aids managing a lap time. I worry that to some it not only results in an overestimation of ability but a sense of invincibility which is a very dangerous thing - particularly if they ride on the road. Modern electronics should be deployed to enhance and compliment a riders ability not compensate for inability.
I'll second that, I have a rgv 250 and on my local twisties and short straights it's pisses on most bigger bikes.

I had a zx10r for a few years and whilst it's was great fun and easy to ride at slow speeds it's just was too much for English roads. I also had a 04 kawa 636 which was brill, wish I had kept it. Lots of torque, modern 600 are a bit top end.
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Kind of takes all the fun out of it for me, The thing I love about riding is the mechanical connection you have with the bike. Nothing wrong with electronic aids to assist the rider but when they get to the level that you just basically ham fist a 200hp bike out of a corner and nothing bad happens. I think it will begin to make people de-sensitized to the risks and lose respect for the power of these bikes.
100% agree
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I'll second that, I have a rgv 250 and on my local twisties and short straights it's pisses on most bigger bikes.



I had a zx10r for a few years and whilst it's was great fun and easy to ride at slow speeds it's just was too much for English roads. I also had a 04 kawa 636 which was brill, wish I had kept it. Lots of torque, modern 600 are a bit top end.


In my youth I had a 350lc and a 500lc. Probably the best biking days I've had were on those bikes. You can't beat a good two stroker for a thrash around the twisties, modern litre sports bikes are too much and better suited to the track. I wish I hadn't sold the buggers though, their values are going through the roof nowadays.
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September 20th, 2016, 05:32 AM   #15
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In my youth I had a 350lc and a 500lc. Probably the best biking days I've had were on those bikes. You can't beat a good two stroker for a thrash around the twisties, modern litre sports bikes are too much and better suited to the track. I wish I hadn't sold the buggers though, their values are going through the roof nowadays.
Your rights values are going up! Always wanted to ride a 500 stroker, never got the chance.

I use my Yz for enduro too, it's light, easy to maintain and loads of torque for those big hills.
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Your rights values are going up! Always wanted to ride a 500 stroker, never got the chance.

I use my Yz for enduro too, it's light, easy to maintain and loads of torque for those big hills.
Unlike Yamfan, I had the RD400 - much to my chagrin, everyone else was on Beckett or Stan Stephens tuned LCs. Had a mate with an RG500 though. Whenever I rode it I had the clutch lever covered!! Bizarrely though, the 350LC had a bigger kick - or rather, the powerband was narrower and came in like a light switch.

Remember the X7? Had a tricked up one for track - sprayed black with a 7Up livery - tuned to buggery. Used to take it down to Santa Pod to slay middle weight muscle bikes.
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As a dealer, the 600cc sport bikes no longer makes sense. the price is to high for the typical buyer, and the performance difference is not that great compared to the used market (at a fraction of the price).
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As a dealer, the 600cc sport bikes no longer makes sense. the price is to high for the typical buyer, and the performance difference is not that great compared to the used market (at a fraction of the price).
You're a dealer?

What kind of bikes?
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Your rights values are going up! Always wanted to ride a 500 stroker, never got the chance.

I use my Yz for enduro too, it's light, easy to maintain and loads of torque for those big hills.


I've got a CR500 supermoto that I used to race. It's light and seriously quick, but it tries to kill you every time you open the throttle without it being completely upright and in line. LOL
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Unlike Yamfan, I had the RD400 - much to my chagrin, everyone else was on Beckett or Stan Stephens tuned LCs. Had a mate with an RG500 though. Whenever I rode it I had the clutch lever covered!! Bizarrely though, the 350LC had a bigger kick - or rather, the powerband was narrower and came in like a light switch.



Remember the X7? Had a tricked up one for track - sprayed black with a 7Up livery - tuned to buggery. Used to take it down to Santa Pod to slay middle weight muscle bikes.


I had an X7 when I was 17, great light little bike. Both my 350 and 500 were tuned by Terry Beckett, the guy was amazing with engines, my 500 could out drag my buddy's GSXR11 in a straight line, let alone through twisties.
After following Terry's advice to run pre-mix and Castrol A747 I never had a single engine problem. The only other special measure was to fit new big end bearings and put a few welds on the crankshafts to stop them twisting as they were press fit. Top man was Terry.
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