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June 8th, 2015, 02:54 AM   #1
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I Thought This Was Interesting

So I was bored...

...and started to thinking...

...let's compare today's fastest production bike (Kawi Ninja H2 - road version) with the fastest 40 years ago (Kawi H2 - original 2 stroke) and the fastest 40 years before that (Brough Superior SS100)...

1932 Brough Superior SS100
Original Cost 170 pounds
Cost in Today's Dollars $12,000
Engine 1000cc V-Twin
HP 45
Weight 340
Top Speed 100mph
mile 80 secs (let's say 40 sec mile...)

1972 Kawasaki H2
Original Cost $1,200
Cost in Today's Dollars $6,500 - half the price of the Brough in equal dollars...
Engine 750cc Two-stroke Triple
HP 74 - 1.6 times the HP of the Brough
Weight 454 - one third more weight
Top Speed 120mph - 20% faster
mile 12.0 secs - 66% faster, biggest gain in acceleration!

2015 Kawasaki Ninja H2
Cost $25,000 - holy fuck, almost 4 times more expensive than the original H2!!
Engine 1000cc In-line four - supercharged
HP 200ish - well ya do get 2.7 times more HP that the original
Weight 524 - 12% heavier and the original wasn't light, porky bastard!
Top Speed 186mph (limited?) - bloody FAST
mile under 9.0 secs - holy fuck, can you peel my eyeballs off the back of my skull?

I'll take a modern version of the original H2 mill (say 90-100HP) with current Ninja 600 frame, Ohlins front and rear, for about $10,000 please!!

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June 8th, 2015, 03:01 AM   #2
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Interesting comparison Mick. I think a lot of the extra weight can be attributed to electronics (Wiring, ECU's etc).

My dad still has the 1988 Honda NS125F 2 stroke my brother learned to ride on. Simple, light and nippy enough. Great bike!
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June 8th, 2015, 06:47 AM   #3
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524 seems heavy for a super bike, is that right?
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June 8th, 2015, 10:12 AM   #4
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It is heavy, but even the road going h2 with only 200hp decimates all due to that fucking blower. Instant on tap power. Even my hayabusa has to wind up a little bit to make serious progress, but the h2 just goes from the get go.
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June 8th, 2015, 11:57 PM   #5
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Give me the Brough Superior and I will be a happy fat bastard
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