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September 15th, 2008, 12:26 PM   #1
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As everyone knows I am a huge supporter of Hayden and an outspoken antagonist against the evil HRC empire.

That said, can you really expect Honda to let Nicky learn how to ride Bridgestones before he goes to Ducati?

Repsol only care about Pedro. I don't think they will care where Nick finishes.
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September 15th, 2008, 12:34 PM   #2
 
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No, of course not. If he and dani were sharing data...maybe, but there's no point in helping a rider who's leaving your team at the conclusion of the year to go to a different team on different tires get a head start adapting to those tires.

No point in helping out a competitor unless you stand to gain from it, and I don't think Honda has much to gain from giving him stones. I've got plenty of issue with a lot of stuff in the past, but this is just an obvious business decision.
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September 15th, 2008, 12:40 PM   #3
 
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It would be smart for them to switch him to Bridgestone now and use him to gather more data for next year. Doubtful this will happen.
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September 15th, 2008, 12:42 PM   #4
 
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I don't think we can or we should blame HRC for keeping Nicky on Michelin. One reason could be Nicky's willingness to go ahead with Michelin without making any fuss about the tires. At Indy for most of the earlier part of the race there were 3 Michelins at front followed by 3 Stones. Moreover, it depends a lot on the rider what he can do with the tires. And, I feel Nicky is quite confident about his skills on Michelins.

But, yeah maybe we can say HRC was ignorant not to ask Nicky about it. Anyways, HRC won't care about the second rider till Puig is around arranging all the resources for Dani.
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September 15th, 2008, 12:45 PM   #5
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I guess this question is stated with the fact that there will be a single tire in MOTOGP next year? If so, then I agree. Why let him get a head start, or actually win a race [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif[/img] ?

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bootsakah @ Sep 15 2008, 01:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>It would be smart for them to switch him to Bridgestone now and use him to gather more data for next year. Doubtful this will happen.
It would be, but only if that data was particularly useful to them. Clearly they've decided that Pedrosa is the direction of the future, and it's been that way for years. Next year's bike is going to be built around that, so Nicky's data isn't necessarily that useful to them. They've already had a virtual wall up in the garage for quite some time - do you think Nicky's data was getting much use?
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September 15th, 2008, 01:08 PM   #7
 
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They knew he was leaving for a long time so why spend development money on him? To hold him back from getting good on Bridgestones makes no sense he'll be good on them in a few tests anyway. And being Honda they don't seem to care about his competitiveness on the Ducati. But they should. Ducati are going to go nuts making him competitive and able to beat Honda.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SackWack @ Sep 15 2008, 11:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I guess this question is stated with the fact that there will be a single tire in MOTOGP next year? If so, then I agree. Why let him get a head start, or actually win a race [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif[/img] ?

What?

I'm saying HRC don't want Nicky to get a feel for the Stones before moving to Marlboro Ducati next season. Hayden is not a fan of the split garage, I really doubt he's going to entertain Michelin next season on a factory Ducati.

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September 16th, 2008, 09:45 AM   #9
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Honda not wanting to help Nicky is pretty obvious. But another reason could be that Dovi will be on Michelins next year.
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I don't know 1% of all the dealing left to right that Puig/Pedrosa/Honda did to get him the Bridgestones.I read somewhere that Repsol spent some extra money or something to pay for the switch.Maybe that was only enough for one rider.This is just a guess though.
In any case it makes sense that Honda wasn't interrested in supplying Hayden with Bridgestones because they knew he was going to change team probarbly a long time ago.Pedrosa sais himself by the way that he doesn't have much use of the data from Haydens' testing,so Hayden would only help himself.Then as he is going to the Duc. team probarbly convinced them even more to keep Bridgestones away from him.
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