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August 7th, 2007, 04:35 PM   #1
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Hey Guys,
Take a peep. I think that things will really be different next year. What I mean by that is Motogp has gotten really interesting, complicated and fun.

Where will some of the veterans land? Will Fiat Yamah or others make a switch to bridgestone? Where will CEII land?-Back to ama? Who has the better rookie season JorgeL or James T. What happens to Nakano and Tamada?What about Westy, Depuniet, Hoffman?

So Here we go: I put together a lilttle spreadsheet of the current state of affairs (2007) and what we know about teams for 2008. Anyone care to take a stab?

Motogp Silly Season
2007 1 2 Tyre
Repsol Honda Pedrosa Hayden Michelin 5 Michelin Teams
Fiat Yamaha Rossi Edwards Michelin 5 Bstone Teams
Marlboro Ducati Stoner Capirex Bstone
Rizla Suzuki Hoppers Vermulen Bstone
Factory Kawasaki DePuniet Ant West Bstone
Gresini Honda Melandri Elias Bstone
D'antin Ducati Barros Hoffman Bstone
Konica Honda Nakano Michelin
LCR Honda Checa Michelin
Tech 3 Yamaha Tamada Guintoli Dunlop
Team KR KRJR Kurtis Michelin


2008 1 2 Tyre 6 Bstone vs 5 Michelin Teams
Repsol Honda Pedrosa Hayden Michelin
Fiat Yamaha Rossi Lorenzo Bstone ?Lorenzo@Fiat Bstone?
Marlboro Ducati Stoner Melandri Bstone
Rizla Suzuki Vermulen Bstone Capirex@Suzuki
Factory Kawasaki Hopkins Bstone
Gresini Honda Elias Bstone
D'antin Ducati Bstone
Konica Honda Michelin
LCR Honda Michelin
Tech 3 Yamaha Toseland Michelin Edwards Stay?
Team KR Michelin
Riders to be placed

Edwards Biaggi?
DePuniet Riuchi Kiyonari?
Hoffman De Angelis?
Barros Dovisioso?
Checa Aoyama?
Tamada Faubel?
Nakano

















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August 7th, 2007, 05:14 PM   #2
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Wow. The formatting sucks.

Sorry Guys. Anyone know how I can format an excel table for the forum?
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August 7th, 2007, 11:24 PM   #3
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I can't help with the formatting question but I do agree with all the story lines in motogp are getting good. Normally I'm not the type to get caught up in the behind the scenes drama but this year is an exception.

Since I'm a Texan the juiciest rumor is the Schwantz run Suzuki team. I know the outlook is bleak for 2008 but if he can pull some strings for 2009 that would be amazing. It would be fun to have a suzuki satellite team and it would be even better if Schwantz could field Edwards and Spies to ride!!!!! 3 Texans riding and running a Suzukis......they can't lose.

Kawasaki seems like it's Hopkins last chance. His psyche seems to be deteriorating and another multi-year stint that ends in underachievement could end his motogp career. I have a sneaky suspicion Kawi keeps West, which is interesting to me b/c it will be the second team in a row where Hopkins has a less talented Australian teammate who has the ability to steal headlines and finish ahead in the points.

I'm hoping DePuniet lands at Pramac. Seems like it could be a side step to a better environment, and while I don't respect his skills, some people seem convinced he deserves another chance. Hoffman needs to get a new day job. Tamada and Checa seem doomed, Nakano might get an extension and hope for an improved Honda in 2008.

I'm not too worried about the tire battle. I think once teams have a better understanding of the tire rule, they will be better able to determine which tires will work best for their team. Even though it seems like Bridgestone is cleaning up, Michelin has 15 podiums and Bstone has 18 (however Bridgestone does have three race sweeps: Turkey, France, US to Michelin's one at Jerez). Both manufactures have lost two competitive riders. Michelin hasn't been able to rely on Hayden or Edwards, and Bridgestone haven't gotten help from Melandri or Capirossi. The riders mentioned have 2 podiums a piece so the cummulative effect is a wash. However, poor performances by the Michelin riders does seem to have a bigger impact because the podiums they leave vacant are certain to fall into Bridgestone hands (Hopkins, Vermeulen, Elias).

Going into 2008 I'm interested to see how Honda and Yamaha respond to Ducati's dominance. I'm really interested to see how Stoner and Melandri are going to get on (I think it's going to be a bad soap opera). I can't wait to see how Hopkins does with a new manufacturer. I'm praying Nicky has a much better season so his career doesn't start a downward spiral. I want to know whether Pedrosa is going to become a title contender or frustrate himself to death.

Anyways, good fun awaits in 2008.
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August 8th, 2007, 12:15 AM   #4
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Duc999 @ Aug 8 2007, 12:35 AM) [snapback]83655[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>

Riders to be placed

Edwards Biaggi?
DePuniet Riuchi Kiyonari?
Hoffman De Angelis?
Barros Dovisioso?
Checa Aoyama?
Tamada Faubel?
Nakano


Biaggi can't come back [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif[/img]

And why the hell is Faubel in that list, do you know something i don't? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dry.gif[/img]
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August 8th, 2007, 01:12 AM   #5
 
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And you left out West, who is actually riding in GP atm unlike Biaggi or Faubel.. :S

Faubel [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img] Thats a good one! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]
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August 8th, 2007, 03:43 AM   #6
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mylexicon @ Aug 8 2007, 04:24 PM) [snapback]83670[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I have a sneaky suspicion Kawi keeps West, which is interesting to me b/c it will be the second team in a row

where Hopkins has a less talented Australian teammate

who has the ability to steal headlines and finish ahead in the points.


Don't you REALLY mean;

Less illustrious
Less experienced
Less(er) paid
Less ear-ringed
Less Anglo-American
Less energy-drink sponsored???

[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img]
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August 8th, 2007, 04:16 AM   #7
 
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Next year, if Ant's there, we'll see whose more talented..
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August 8th, 2007, 02:16 PM   #8
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Biaggi can't come back??? Why not?
I think that he still would be a top 4 rider. I am sure that he would be just as fast, faster than Elias, Melandri, Hoppers, Vermulen etc.
The only thing that has kept him out of the Motogp is his mouth/attitude with Honda.

Other riders don't like him, He acts like a Prima Madonna. Who cares. The dude can ride. Fact is he still can out ride 95% of the motogp field.
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Now..

Ant West. 2008- he should keep his ride.
Faubel - in Motogp.. he ain't going nowhere but it did get a good laugh.
I through a few of the 250 and BSB/WSK names in there as there are a lot of seats that could field someone from another series.

Guys that shoud be gone:
-Barros
-Checa
-Hoffman
-DePuniet
-Edwards
-Tamada
-Kurtis
-Kenny Jr

That leaves quite a few seats to be filled.... Unfortunately I don't think that everyone will go to the retirement home. Edwards will be back, probably Barros and Checa along with DePuniet.

I really would like to see some of the 250 guys, WSK, top AMA riders come into the series early and develop into quality talent.

Why should we see Checa, Barros, and Tamada for another season?

Here is a question. Does motogp keep certain nationality riders to keep up fan support in various countries? hmmm.....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tom @ Aug 8 2007, 07:15 AM) [snapback]83672[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Biaggi can't come back [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif[/img]

And why the hell is Faubel in that list, do you know something i don't? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dry.gif[/img]



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August 8th, 2007, 02:28 PM   #9
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Duc999 @ Aug 8 2007, 04:16 PM) [snapback]83781[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>

I really would like to see some of the 250 guys, WSK, top AMA riders come into the series early and develop into quality talent.




i think you'll see dovizioso & deAngelis from 250s along with lorenzo. toseland is coming from wsbk & it's possible spies may be here next season as well. the only ama rider who i think belongs here right now.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(frosty58 @ Aug 8 2007, 10:28 PM) [snapback]83785[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
i think you'll see dovizioso & deAngelis from 250s along with lorenzo. toseland is coming from wsbk & it's possible spies may be here next season as well. the only ama rider who i think belongs here right now.


Why should a national level rider jump up that big a step?

Surely WSB is the smart option? I know, I know, Hayden did it. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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