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February 2nd, 2007, 07:16 AM   #51
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Feb 2 2007, 01:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well, mate, you've got a much more liberal usage of the word "Destroy" in this context than I do. In both the championships it went down to the last race, it was either man's title. I wouldn't say one destroyed the other like that. I'd call what Rossi did in 2005 "Destroying" the competition, but that's just me.


Edwards had to win a shed load of races to come back to win that championship. The first half of that season belonged to Bayliss, but the second half belonged to Colin.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Feb 2 2007, 08:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>there is a superior class. it's gp's. & superior riders strive to get to the superior class.

I agree and disagree with you on this one. I agree that from a machinery/technology standpoint that Motogp is indeed the bees knees. On the other point I do believe that most riders want to be in GP's, however I think it is more complicated than just getting there. An example is Colin Edwards' transition from WSBK to Motogp. He could not get a decent ride from Honda and went with Aprillia. He was just odd an impressive performance just edging out a very worthy Troy Bayliss. Unfortunately the Aprillia was crap, and consequently almost bar-b-qued him for his efforts. My point is that unless you have a favorable bike/tire setup you may be in motogp but you will never be in contention. Top riders realize this and some of them prefer to keep their competitive ride instead of, I'll use a quote from Wesley Snipes' Blade 1 movie "some muthaf%#@&s are always trying to ice skate uphill". I believe that I am right in this opinion and consequently anyone who disagrees with me is a big stupid-head
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ogunski @ Feb 2 2007, 02:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>My point is that unless you have a favorable bike/tire setup you may be in motogp but you will never be in contention.
ogunski i think this applies to any series. not just motogp. the point is would u rather have a competitive package in gp's? or a competitive package in wsbk? which series would u, as a top rider, want to show off your abilities? the best or 1 of the rest?
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It would seem that most are arguing the toss between MotGP and World superbikes. Could it be that theres another class which is the best ?
250cc?
125cc?
AMA?
BSB?
The austrailian series, or any other national series ?

Mini Moto ?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dion @ Feb 2 2007, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Could it be that theres another class which is the best ?
250cc?
125cc?
AMA?
BSB?
The austrailian series, or any other national series ?

Mini Moto ?
no way man, all of the above are good series,dont no much about mini moto, but are not a premier class,the only one that comes close is wsb but even thats not in the same league imo.
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I don't even think the superbikes are that close. Motogp is a much much higher level. I think the 250cc class is more comparable to wsbk. But they are so different its hard to tell.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (frosty58 @ Feb 2 2007, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>ogunski i think this applies to any series. not just motogp. the point is would u rather have a competitive package in gp's? or a competitive package in wsbk? which series would u, as a top rider, want to show off your abilities? the best or 1 of the rest?
Of course I concede that a competitive motogp ride is what you want. My assertion is that being in Motogp doesnt necessarily make for a superior rider. Now I say that with the exception of someone like Valentino Rossi, who in my opinion is a rare type of genius that only comes along very rarely.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Racejumkie @ Feb 1 2007, 07:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Ha-ha, I wonder if Pete will agree and maintain he "destroyed" or will he retract, or perhaps say we “misread” him when he said, "destroyed" now that you put it in terms of Hayden beating Rossi. I'm sure he'll use a crafty backpedal or perhaps he will revert to a witty joke, either way, it will be very amusing to see him try to surgically remove another bad case of foot-in-mouth.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Feb 2 2007, 12:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Quite simply. When he had to beat him at every race he did. No retraction, no misquote.

Just like Nicky did to Rossi. :P



a) Agree
B) Misread
c) Retract
d) Backpedal
e) Witty Joke


Answer: D) & E)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Feb 2 2007, 05:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well, mate, you've got a much more liberal usage of the word "Destroy" in this context than I do. In both the championships it went down to the last race, it was either man's title.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Feb 1 2007, 05:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>A season is a long time. Edwards destroyed him the last time they were both in supers to take the title, and he's not exactly dominated GP.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Racejumkie @ Feb 3 2007, 01:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The unbiased and unexaggerated voice of The Gate Keeper of Knowledge.


I stand corrected by the all powerful Googleman.

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